Monetizing laziness\just doing nothing

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Stahlmann
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Monetizing laziness\just doing nothing

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Going to Scandinavian prison?
Being low tier night shift security guard?

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Post by ertyu »

- Be Self-Help Singh (google his "just do nothing" youtube video)
- Get enlightened and lead retreats where people pay you to bask in the energy you whip up for them

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For this you would head to be CEO* of a large organisation. But there are a few hoops you need to jump through, and you need to be reasonably smart, too.

*or otherwise in senior management (maybe alternatively board of directors).

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In Poland, the nicest "do nothing" job I've seen is working in small, state-owned museums. Hardly anyone goes there, the employees are just part of the furniture most of the time. At the same time, the environment is clean, quiet, climate controlled (to preserve the exhibition). I imagine they work on designing the new exhibitions from time to time, but that could be a welcome change from the boredom. There are two catches though: I think the job requires either a specialized degree or a friend in high places in the appropriate branch of administration - and often both, as I imagine the positions are highly competetive (plenty of enthusiasts of near free money out there).

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Investing in people who are far superior in intelligence and work ethic than you are.

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zbigi wrote:
Mon Sep 16, 2024 6:08 am
In Poland, the nicest "do nothing" job I've seen is working in small, state-owned museums.
I was once in Łódź and we were visiting an exhibition of contemporary art, a huge exhibition of conceptual weirdness. We were the only ones there and my friend accidentally destroyed one of the installations, a mistake anyone could have made. The security guard began screaming at us in polish and about half dozen museum officials surrounded us and the Policja were mentioned more than once. This was clearly the most exciting thing in their museum careers so far.

Actually there's an idea @stahlmann - security guard at a museum. You can sit around all day and do bugger all. Or a night porter at a hotel.

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Leverage your laziness into not spending money. Invest the resulting savings. Live off the dividends forever. At this point you can do whatever you want for the rest of your life including doing nothing.

It's a proven strategy that takes 5 years on a median income. You've been here 8 years. Maybe it would be better to focus on just getting the five years of work done and over with instead of spending any more time looking for shortcuts?

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Unfortunately, it is entirely possible (probable?) to be simultaneously lazy yet bored with the prospect of engaging in the "proven strategy."

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It would be a sacrifice but one that your future self will greatly appreciate a handful of years from now.

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Yes, I absolutely agree that the youths should undertake this approach. Chop, chop, young Stahlmann while your flesh is yet virile and firmly hewn to bone.

OTOH, my countdown spreadsheet informs me that a scant 859 days remain until I am eligible for early withdrawal Social Security, so it is questionable what I will be motivated to accomplish. However, I am now in possession of a prescription for Phentermine, which allows me to accomplish feats such as normalizing a complex database for 16 hours straight yesterday. Still, my tendency to drift from the path of the "winner" around the cusp of Green/Yellow towards a visualization of the future in which I find myself somehow immersed in the intense particularities of a moment which maybe finds me in a small dirty airport in a seat next to somebody I haven't met who is being played Bill Murray AKA the odd morphed path of a smiling Buddha floating above the undertow of Nihilistic depression...jonesing, jonesing, jonesing for just a tiny hit of the "interesting."

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Especially since most shortcuts do have a cost of entry, already moving in the right directions would help a lot.

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Becoming a buddhist monk; you are provided with food and shelter in exchange for meditating, essentially doing nothing for long periods. If you have any amount invested, such as in an index fund, theoretically it will grow while you’re doing nothing. The capitalist world somehow rewards investors inactivity. The issue is that doing nothing also requires mental strength. Especially in these times, living with a screen in front of us 24/7 and marketing teams constantly urging us to take action.

I also think the world would be a better place if the average Shein consumer became a monk, stopped using resources, and ceased polluting the planet. In the future, it might become more common to reward lazy people simply for existing and doing nothing, but nowadays it’s still something unpopular.

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I don't think the monks of most denominations are actually allowed to be lazy. The buddist motto even involves chopping wood and carrying water - sounds like a lot of work :)

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Or is this a choose-your-suck sort of situation? As a fellow ENTP eligible for a modest state pension when I turn 60 (and wanting the money now), I get the conflict between “interesting” and doing what needs to be done. (5w7, I have my countdown timer app on my cell set. I am at 44 months.) I find it’s easier to pay the price earlier than later.

Save that money early and keep full control of your finances. No. Matter. What.

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House sitting? Your job is essentially to exist in someone's property.

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purple wrote:
Wed Sep 18, 2024 10:15 am
House sitting? Your job is essentially to exist in someone's property.
My dad had a UAW bud who became a land steward to keep up an inventor's house near Naples, Florida. It's not terrible if there are written instructions.

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As a housesitter isn’t always completely passive. I think my long haired shedding friends produce about the same amount of vacuuming weekly as when I was the custodian of a much larger pet free space.

It can be pretty good trade off. Rent in a house in our present location would be $2800 plus all the utilities.

Maybe leading guiding silent group meditation? Few minutes of talking and setting the mood. 55 minutes laying there.

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I read about one catholic monestery in New Mexico that has 4 hours of work a day, mostly keeping up the place and roasting coffee for sale at the markets. However, they also pray/chant for 4 hours a day, all at rigidly structured times. The first call to prayer is at 3 am.

I imagine a person would get into the rythm of the monastery pretty quickly. However, I think Jacob's suggestion allows more flexibility and sleep, and ultimately is more robust because once you've grown your nest egg you can quit the job.

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I've stayed in a couple Buddhist monasteries. Waking up at 3:45 for 4:00 am meditation. 5:30-7:00 yoga. Breakfast and morning chores, with a little free time. Then more meditation. One of the monasteries focused on a martial art called Sunmudo, so that was a good chunk of the day. The schedule was packed pretty tight from dawn to dusk. They definitely weren't lazy. Probably more engaged and active than many WFH white collar employees in the US.

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