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Laura Ingalls wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:04 pm
Any hints on how to keep London ERE compliant-ish other than skipping it? Any forumites going to be there late January/early February?
Couchsurfing was successful for me in London and I can recommend it. Most host are not in the super center tho. (Except If you get hosted by the royal family or some crazy rich banker) :D

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AxelHeyst wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2024 8:09 pm
EDIT: My plan is set now, I'm sorted.

I'm going to be bumming around the PNW this Dec 16 ~ 20th. Landing in Seattle, but happy to roam wherever public transportation can get me.

Also, if anyone has recommendations for cheap accommodations (hostels, camping cabins/hipcamps, etc) for someone traveling w/out camping gear in the area, I'm all ears.
How did this go for you? The ERE mode logistics part especially? Seems like a tough city to be low impact/low cost as a visitor.

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@mathiverse put me up in their spare bedroom for the week, which I utilized to go into monkmode to bang out my book. I took public transport straight from the airport (very easy system in Seattle!) to their place, which was walking distance to a grocery outlet.

Might as well mention: @mathiverse reached out to offer their place. We communicated to establish expectations for what the 'deal' was going to be: I proposed a situation that would work for me that I thought would be in alignment with what I knew of their vibe, but make clear that I was open to counter-offers. (It was something like "I'm planning on going monkmode. Is it cool that our deal is ~'roommates who are both busy but open to socialize when our venn diagrams overlap?' I'm happy to cook for both of us whenever works for you. Can I arrive Sunday and leave Saturday? That would be ideal for me. But if that's not good for you, just let me know which days it's cool for me to be there.")

I mention this to highlight some of the soft skills that can make this sort of arrangement work. It's important to slightly err on the side of overcommunicating expectations, imo! It's the only way to not get into that weird space of not knowing if you're overstaying your welcome or imposing, but thinking it's too late to bring it up without being awkward. @mathiverse also did this - they invited me to a social thing, but then later rescinded the invite because it had kinda blown up and they thought it'd be awkward if everyone was bringing +1's. But they communicated it really clearly, which is always a relief for me that the people in my life can just eat the frog when it comes to potentially awkward social calculus.

Another forumite invited me to hang out during that week and I was really excited, but I got a head cold and had to cancel. I'm really bummed about that, I was really looking forward to meeting that person.

Besides that, ERE win all around.

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Laura Ingalls wrote:
Sun Dec 29, 2024 8:04 pm
Any hints on how to keep London ERE compliant-ish other than skipping it? Any forumites going to be there late January/early February?
Unless you really want to stay in London I would recommend staying somewhere like Winchester or Petersfield. Nicer, cheaper and only an hour on the train from London Waterloo. And you'll be able to explore the South Downs National Park.

My one recommendation for London is to walk the city walls, a surprising amount of which have survived and something which is often off the tourist trail, probably because it's free.

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Most of the permanent exhibitions in London museums are free. You have access to some amazing art and history, while also getting a bit of relief from the winter weather. As @chenda mentioned, taking trains or busses into the city makes for really nice trips and could potentially cut down on costs.

I've also found great deals on plays and theater while in England. Production quality and acting is always amazing.

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Thanks for the ideas for London everyone.

@chenda Petersfield had a cool historic pub with rooms above it for what looked very reasonable.

@WRC had the Globe on my list.

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@Laura - yes Petersfield is a lovely town. If you are interested in walks I recommend buying an OS Explorer Map, No 133 covers the area. It'll show in minute detail all the rural paths aroundabout.

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Hey Folks - I'll have a few solo days in Madrid in March. And then a few days with DP after that, before ultimately meeting up with family.

Plan is... Madrid, Seville, and hopefully a quick stop in Cadiz.

Anyone in those areas? Anyone with some suggestions on things to see, places to stay, or especially delicious things to eat?

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sodatrain wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:43 am
Anyone with some suggestions on things to see, places to stay, or especially delicious things to eat?
Granada's Alhambra and Cordoba's Cathedral are amazing. When you're in Cadiz, stroll around on the streets until midnight, and enjoy the crowd and the icecream!

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sodatrain wrote:
Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:43 am
Hey Folks - I'll have a few solo days in Madrid in March. And then a few days with DP after that, before ultimately meeting up with family.

Plan is... Madrid, Seville, and hopefully a quick stop in Cadiz.
DW and I spent eight days in Madrid and four in Sevilla, so I have a few thoughts but that obviously isn't a huge amount of time for authoritative recommendations.

I think @guitarplayer is currently in Madrid, so he may have some good suggestions. I plugged La Tabacleria in Lavapies in his journal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Tabacalera_de_Lavapiés

It might be closed down now, but it was probably the most interesting thing we did in our month in Europe. We went over to check out the grafitti art on the external walls, and there was a huge series of community events going on in the gardens and tunnels beneath the buildings. The tunnels are covered in amazing street art, and we enjoyed it more than the Prado.

Here is a list of free things to do for a budget-friendly trip:

https://www.esmadrid.com/en/madrid-free-attractions

From that list, we went to El Retiro Park and the Sabatini gardens, and both are worth a visit IMO. The Sabatini gardens are close to the central square (which has delicious churros and hot chocolate. and plenty of Jamon). Some of the famous museums such as the Prado have a free evening so we scheduled our visit to Retiro on the same day, then went over to that museum. If you decide to hit a free museum, just make sure to give yourself plenty of time because the lines are really long.

If you are in Madrid on a Sunday, El Rastro is a flea market that is worth checking out for all of the quirky and amazing goods on display, plus some great people watching. It is located in the La Latina neighborhood (where we stayed). This neighborhood is also famous for tapas in Calle Cava Baja and Cava Alta. We found a couple restaurants there with reasonable prices, but a lot of them were very expensive. You can look at menus in front of restaurants before committing. The tapas in Sevilla are outstanding and much more affordable in our experience.

https://thespanishradish.com/spanish-ra ... apas-tour/

We skipped some of the famous tourist sites, and opted to spend a full day walking around and exploring different neighborhoods each day in Madrid. I wouldn't drop too much money on food here. You can eat really well for half or a third of the cost of many menus without sacrificing quality if you are willing to look at different menus and walk a couple blocks away from the tourist centers.

In Sevilla, I think you should put a flamenco show at the top of your list. It is the birthplace of flamenco, and well worth pursuing if you have any interest in music, dance, or local culture. You might be able to catch shows for free or with the price of dinner at a bar or restaurant. DW danced flamenco and I play guitar, so we wanted to splurge on a show. After a lot of research, DW opted for La Casa Del Flamenco based on price and what we were looking for (a small intimate setting, acoustic performance, with a small group of dancers and musicians). We paid a little under 20 Euros per ticket. It was located in the Jewish quarter, which was fun to wander around in and explore. There are other great options as well.

It is also worth visiting Tirana, which is the traditional gypsy quarter. That might be a place to catch a flamenco show in a bar or restaurant. They have a great public market there, and lots of good restaurants in the neighborhood with affordable tapas and local types of alcohol.

We stayed in the Centro, which has loads of great restaurants. The Setas offers some great people-watching and a unique flavor on urban design. Worth checking out IMO. From there you can wander through old alleys and check out menus for tapas, or grab a delicious sandwich from a local butcher to eat in the park or a public square.

The Plaza De Espana is free, and surrounded by massive public gardens. Definitely worth checking out if you have the time.

The Real Alcazar is one of the main tourist sites, and one we committed to visiting. Unfortunately the gardens were mostly closed when we went, but the palace is stunning and gives you a good taste of the amalgam of Spanish and Moorish culture. If you decide to do that, you'll need to book a ticket in advance.

It is a great city to just wander around in, soak up the architecture, and enjoy the food.

Have fun!

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Oh wow, thank you very much @WRC. This is super helpful and packed with great tips and insight. Thank you very much!

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Not sure if the London trip has finished but my observation from living in London and having lived and travelled in a fair few other places is that the only expensive thing about visiting here is accommodation. If you can shop at supermarkets, carry a water bottle or flask of coffee around most people choices of things to do for a week or so are free. Might need to work out a cost effective way to use public transport.

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@jayritchie

We arrive 1-23. Good to know. We have our water bottles and two hotel nights booked with points in Central London.

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Travel Plans, US Midwest-Northwest + Japan: July-October/November(?)

Itinerary:
I plan to be going from North Dakota->Seattle area in early July. I'll be flying from Seattle to Tokyo and will be in Japan July 9-September 5th. After that I'll plan to come to EREfest. After that, I'll putter around for a bit, likely spend some more time in Seattle/Olympic Peninsula area where I have some family, maybe do a vipassana retreat?, and eventually make my way back to North Dakota likely by Thanksgiving. There's a small chance I could turn the whole trip into a big quadrilateral by visiting some friends/family in California and then visiting my brother in Oklahoma, but I doubt I would want to do that much driving by myself. The Japan dates are fixed, and I won't have much flexibility before those dates, but afterwards I should be pretty flexible.

Japan:
I'll have a little over a month of free time, and then a couple of my friends will be coming to Japan for a couple weeks. We'll probably be focusing on Tokyo with some Mt Fuji area time as well, and then I'll have a week or two after they leave. Their dates aren't set in stone yet but we were planning to all be there during Obon at least. I am trying to decide whether I want to do workaway(s?) for that first month or see if I can do some sort of bike tour of a good chunk of Japan. Workaway seems a good way to save money and meet people who can offer a lot of information and good social times which would be very valuable in a foreign country where I'll have some difficulty speaking the local language, but the bike tour seems significantly more stoke-inducing if I can pull it off well. Haven't put too much planning into that yet, thoughts/advice/suggestions are welcome.

Other:
I plan to have a car camping setup (while I'm in the US) so I shouldn't need too much in terms of accommodations. Also, for anywhere I'm going (most relevantly EREfest) I should be able to help one other person carpool there, but will not have room for more. I'm super open to suggestions of things I should do/places I should see and/or more general travel tips. I do want to emphasize getting out into nature some and doing physically difficult things during the trip but that shouldn't preclude relaxing and seeing urban attractions.

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On Japan
Tokyo is fantastic of course, but make sure you do not miss:
- Kyoto. Ok touristic and everything. It’s beautiful. You’ll do the palace downtown and the central area + all the famous temples. Among the least famous things I suggest eikando temple https://maps.app.goo.gl/sgLuG334iUAo3i1 ... eview.copy
It also has a small okonomyaki place that’s very decent. https://maps.app.goo.gl/XABNiHprW3TWRnD ... eview.copy

- Nara: same, may be touristy but has to be seen.

- Osaka: the opposite of the above two cities. Osaka is probably the most fun place in Japan. The aquarium is fabulous. Due to transposition links and cost, Osaka is a great hub to then go to Kyoto and Nara for day trips. Totally doable.

I would also not miss the south, Fukuoka etc.

Hidden gem: visit from Tokyo the volcanic island of Jogashima. Can be done on a day trip from Tokyo with the regular subway/train system (takes less than 2h and cost $15 each way or so) https://maps.app.goo.gl/rA7mWijrg2CstD2 ... eview.copy

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Seppia wrote:
Wed Feb 12, 2025 1:41 am
On Japan
Tokyo is fantastic of course, but make sure you do not miss:
- Kyoto. Ok touristic and everything. It’s beautiful. You’ll do the palace downtown and the central area + all the famous temples. Among the least famous things I suggest eikando temple https://maps.app.goo.gl/sgLuG334iUAo3i1 ... eview.copy
It also has a small okonomyaki place that’s very decent. https://maps.app.goo.gl/XABNiHprW3TWRnD ... eview.copy

- Nara: same, may be touristy but has to be seen.

- Osaka: the opposite of the above two cities. Osaka is probably the most fun place in Japan. The aquarium is fabulous. Due to transposition links and cost, Osaka is a great hub to then go to Kyoto and Nara for day trips. Totally doable.

I would also not miss the south, Fukuoka etc.

Hidden gem: visit from Tokyo the volcanic island of Jogashima. Can be done on a day trip from Tokyo with the regular subway/train system (takes less than 2h and cost $15 each way or so) https://maps.app.goo.gl/rA7mWijrg2CstD2 ... eview.copy
Great advice; Eikando was also my favorite temple and when we visited it was very quiet. I'd recommend paying to see the rock gardens at various temples, they were some of my favorite experiences. Hit all the major temples as early in the morning as you can -- rent ebikes to get around the city quickly, it's fun, affordable, and lets you take in the place. We did them without helmets with a two year old and felt safe, everyone is extremely respectful and conscious of bikers.

Kyoto was touristy at temples but, avoiding the hotel districts, we really really enjoyed its energy compared to Tokyo (which cannot be missed but certainly feels very urban, at least in Shinjuku).

We skipped Nara and Osaka on our trip. Next visit we'll fly to Osaka and probably hunker down in Kyoto. We did not expect to connect with Kyoto so much but the nature, short buildings, and peaceful vibes really took us in -- but we also spend most of our trips sleeping on BLM land purposefully surrounded by no one.

Our circuit was: Tokyo --> Hakone --> Kyoto --> Kanazawa --> Tokyo. I would skip Kanazawa next time, add another night in Hakone and Kyoto.

If you want a very high end tea experience, check out Ippodo Tea in Kyoto.

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Planting a seed: I'm going to do a lower-48 road trip from ~the end of August/Early Sept through ~October. I'll start from QH (inland southern California). A hinge point is Fest25, somewhere in Oregon, the weekend of September 15. From there I'll loop out to New Mexico to do a ~weeklong road trip with my romantic entanglement late Sept/early Oct. Then finish the loop back to QH. I'm likely to be on a motorcycle. I'm very up for visiting/meetups, caravanning/co-traveling, joining for backpack trips in the mountains, crashing at people's places and lending a hand with a proj, etc. Lurkers, you're welcome to hit me up too.

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The tripleM Moab thing is Oct 3-13th this year. There's going to be a campground and a hostel option (or BLM nearby). I know a few people from Fest24 were curious about it. DW and I will probably be in attendance......would be great to cross paths. Fest is TBD based on a bunch of other stuff....but trying to make that as well.

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I'll probably be in these countries in the next month if anyone wants to meet. Happy to help you out with stuff in your home/projects (cooking, cleaning, basic web development, gardening, basic foraging, etc). Also down to jam, compose music, or perform music on the street together. I play piano/drums/vocals/electronics.

Tunisia
Thailand
(Maybe Laos)
Vietnam
(Maybe Australia: Adelaide)
Japan


Much appreciating advice on any of these destinations! Thanks for the great discussion above about Japan.

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