jacob wrote:The fact that people will do self-similar activities for very different reasons is fascinating to me(*). It's similar to how some people will live on $7000/year in order to FIRE ASAP while others will live on $7000/year in pursuit of resilience under a moral constraint sustainable equity. What's interesting is that either of the two (or three) gets the other ones for free even if they don't care about those other values.
It is fascinating. A couple other motivations might be "in order to be able to afford one adult to stay home with children/animals/garden/elderly" or "in order to cut paid-work hours immediately towards more hours for random reading." Thus, for example, "I" am pretty much Pareto optimized at approximately 16 hours paid work/week in terms of "enough time to read/garden", but would still like to cut my spending/boost my skillz more towards resilience under sustainable equity. I also have "would be nice to have" level of motivation towards accumulating more savings towards "optionality." For instance, it would be a nice "option" to be able to pay cash for a house in any location, and then rent out rooms towards lowering my own base expense, but it is doubtful that I am going to be willing to do something like work-full-time-for-corporation for number of years to achieve that goal.
In terms of vMemes I'd ascribe my "physicality"-values to Beige (being able to extract oneself from a dangerous situation, like pulling oneself back on a boat after falling off(**), running and climbing over a fence before the crazy dog gets you, ...), Red ("if I can't beat a mugger, I can at least outrun them. And vice versa." (I identify as a pocket battleship)), and to some degree just having an integrated mind-body as a physical being (I'm not sure what color that is) cf. thinking of the body as a mere vehicle for my special mind (Orange) or my beautiful feels (Green) or my sacred soul (Blue).
(**) Which also means---due to a Beige perspective---I'm not a fan of "handicapping" the metrics: Either someone can pull oneself back on the boat or out the window of a burning building or they can't. Drowning or fire does not allow for gender, age, income, education, ... OTOH an Orange/Green value-system would approach it differently: To meet a certain metric while remaining inclusive, different people get different metrics.
Sexuality and sense-uality as related to "need to have" items such as food is also physicality at Level Beige. As Wilber notes in "Sex, Ecology, Spirituality: The Spirit of Evolution", our hominid ancestors were already dividing labor at the division of gender, although with less focus on status than was found within the 97% male enclave of co-operative hunting.
In studying gender and possible gender differences, what is required initially is a set of constants that acknowledges certain unambiguous differences in function (women give birth and lactate, and men have on average a moderate advantage in physical strength and mobility...These simple differences might not seem all that important today, but historically and prehistorically they were often some of the most important and determining factors in all of culture.
So, if you do not discriminate based on gender, in the sense of affirming that everybody should exhibit the upper-body muscular strength and mobility necessary to engage in co-operative hunting, I believe that you are actually "seeing" physicality to some extent through a Level Orange Libertarian/Feminist lens that is individualistic, egalitarian, but promotive of more masculine-type functioning for all. Since this is the primary culture in which I have lived, I share this view to some extent.
What does an intelligent female hominid who is 8 months pregnant do in an emergency situation that requires more upper body strength or mobility than she can muster in the moment? She screams for help from the band. Co-operative trade between the genders on the basis of their differences is prior even to our species becoming sapient. So, it is not even possible to begin to consider the emergent levels of culture without first accepting this aspect of objective reality (men and women are different) at Level Beige, before magnifying, solidifying, ignoring, denying, transcending, or simply playing with the difference at other levels.
I think, therefore, that the key to unlocking a "diet" (which originally meant "a way of life" and not "temporary starvation to drop 10 pounds") is to find one's personally motivating values.
Right, and that is why you choose to be on The Warrior Diet, and I choose to be on the Not Suffering Under the Delusion That I Am a Warrior ( I am going to eat some honey, apples and grub worms as I gather honey, apples and grub worms in alignment with my intuition/senses) Diet (or something like that)
The only problem is when anyone develops or is born with subjective values that has no solution in objective space, that is, they value something they can never have.
Overall, I think it rather worthwhile to run an AQAL analysis when it comes to values: What do I want/What can I get/What do they want/What can they get. Acceptance is found once the overlap between the four quadrants is identified.
Yes, this is very insightful and key. Although, I think it is more often the case in our highly affluent and fairly liberal culture that humans are psychologically blocked from getting that which they value. For instance, if my idea of great sex required the validation/security of having a male partner who never thought about having sex with other women, I would have to start by extracting some DNA from Jimmy Carter and breeding forward to improve the strain and/or invent some kind of Harrison Bergeron helmet for male sexuality.
theanimal wrote:By the end of the 3 months, 4 of the 17 women could do a pull up.
Oops, my bad. Sometimes I read too fast.
If you do the negatives consistently, you will be able to do a pull up. Personally, I have been able to help Mrs. Animal and a female friend of mine go from zero to one with this method, both of whom could not do pull ups previously. I have no doubt, with similar training that you (@7) or any other woman on this forum could do the same.
I am not super concerned about having to pull myself up out of an emergency situation, but I would like to be able to climb a tree in order to fulfill my childhood fantasy of climbing up in a tree with an apple and a book and just hanging out there combined with my adult fantasy of becoming an Eco-Anarchist-Activist. So, maybe what I will do is find a likely candidate as I get into my new hiking routine. That way I will be practicing at what I really want to do rather than some inherently meaningless exercise. I think climbing a tree would also be more productive of the sort of fitness that will help me save myself in emergency situations AND would obviously widen my opportuniti es for my hobbies of foraging and species identification AND my intention to come out as Eco-Sexual AND would help with the possibility of someday building myself a tree house.
UPDATE/ADDITIONS to Skillathon 2024:
January: Meta-Self-Improvement Retrospective Towards Skillathon Planning.
Intuitive Eating/Gentle Nutrition/Fun Movement.
February: YTBD
March: YTBD
April: YTBD
May: YTBD
June: Family Flea Market Project: Found Books and Lost Arts, a multi-faceted cooperative project with my three sisters.
July: Transcendent Sexuality
August: Data Science Project?
October: Tree Climbing
November: YTBD
December: YTBD
I have a brainstormed list of 58 possibilities for the unclaimed months, but all those YTBDs make me feel kind of lush with opportunity/options in the moment, so I'm going to let it hang that way for a while longer.
@whitebelt:
Crosspost: But as you can see we are mostly on the same page, yay, going on a mushroom hunt, tree climbing outing! However, you believe that possibly the men in my life have robbed me of opportunity to flex my muscles, whereas I work hard at questioning what else
can I get from them in exchange for my erotic capital? Obviously, more dinners out is not going to be helpful in reducing my tummy blob. That's one of the reasons I have added Transcendent Sexuality to my Skillathon list. However, it has been my experience that doing anything like handing a man an illustrated manual bookmarked with my preference is likely to create some oppositional defiance, so may require a wee bit of scheming to not make it seem like I am "topping from the bottom",
unless I round up a new partner who already believes himself to be an expert in this realm. I chose July for my Transcendent Sexuality month in celebration of the 45th anniversary of my successful seduction of my first lover (and one of his best friends
) What a fun year it is going to be!