The situation of Italian politics is bad, and obtaining unbiased information is close to impossible.Ego wrote:Any opinions on the Italian referendum?
Keep in mind I will vote yes, but I am not a super convinced Yes voter.
The premise is that the current Italian system makes it close to impossible to do real reforms.
I don't know if it's the system or what else, but the fact is that aside for very, very little, nothing meaningful has changed in Italy in the last 20 years.
The only real reform that was passed was the pension reform, needed for sustainability (retirement age has been increased and payouts generally decreased. Italy has zero demographic growth FYI).
To simplify greatly:
Today we have two chambers, the Camera and the Senato.
Any law that needs to be passed has to be approved by both chambers, with the exact same text.
Any time the government did not have majority in both chambers, all that was needed to create gridlock was to simply change a bit the wording of a law, and send it back to the other chamber.
This was a lot more frequent than foreigners might think, because in Italy we do not have two big parties, but a multitude of smaller ones that usually unite in two coalitions.
Backstabbing is rampant, and the other very negative side effect is that a small party can hold ransom a government very easily.
Imagine coalition A has 55% of the votes of one chamber
One small 6% party in coalition A can stop any law by simply voting with coalition B on that particular subject.
This referendum proposes to greatly diminish the power of one of two chambers (the Senato), thus speeding up the process.
Proponents of the Yes camp say that the advantages are:
- governability of the Country by making law-making easier and faster, thus allowing reforms
- lower the cost of the government (the Senato would have less people with less salary)
The proponents of the No camp say:
- the risk is an authoritarian derive. The two chambers exist precisely to avoid concentrating too much power in one's hands.
- the reform is badly put toghether.
On top of this, the Prime Minister Renzi has basically made this a referendum on his popularity, so a lot of the No supporters see this as a way to send him home (the term coined was "Renxit") and not much more.
My point of view is:
- I'm sure the reform is badly written, I mean it has been done by Italians.
- at least we are heading in the right direction though, all those who claim it's badly written have been in power for a number of years and could have written a better one themselves.
- I see zero risk of Fascism coming back or anything similar. At least it would not be triggered by this reform. I don't believe authoritarian regimes are created by forms of government. Hitler was elected after all, and other authoritarian regimes usually TOOK power with force, regardless of forms of government.
What ultimately swung me though was the list of who is supporting the No side
- D'Alema and other old farts from the old school left coalition, people so bad as politicians they managed to lose to Berlusconi repeatedly
- The 5 star movement, possibly the most ridiculous political party on earth (its run by a comedian and among them there's believers that vaccines cause autism, that regular passenger planes spray chemicals in a master plan to control the weather, etc)
- the Northern League, who has feasted on racism for decades (they wanted to separate the wealthy north from the south up until a few years ago, now they've directed their anger towards anything non Italian).
Hope this helps.