Status and Esteem Part 2
I think that the status/ esteem feedback loop is being sent into overdrive, causing a lot of the crisis of modernity. However, we still need some status to meet our needs.
Pursuing status has a negative connotation. In "Status and Esteem Part 1" I argue that status and ...
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- Sat Jul 05, 2025 6:10 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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- Sat Jul 05, 2025 6:06 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
@Stasher: I think social media amplifies the problem (as I think all media does). It exposes us to vastly more people (though I think this issue predates media and modernity) and is engineered against us.
On the other hand, every escalation has a corresponding positive aspect, which is often almost ...
On the other hand, every escalation has a corresponding positive aspect, which is often almost ...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 1:11 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
Status and Esteem Part 1
Status is a position in a social hierarchy. People want status within their in-groups, particularly with high-status individuals inside their in-groups.
I think esteem comes largely from iterative feedback loops with status*. We learn to value ourselves as we perceive ...
Status is a position in a social hierarchy. People want status within their in-groups, particularly with high-status individuals inside their in-groups.
I think esteem comes largely from iterative feedback loops with status*. We learn to value ourselves as we perceive ...
- Tue Jul 01, 2025 12:45 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
@AH: Options are difficult to choose from because we don't actually need to do anything. I think the modern value meme imposes a complicated structure on basic needs (needs of modernity) and imposes a complicated structure on our emotional/ fear systems. From that view, ERE just points out that ...
- Mon Jun 16, 2025 11:08 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
@Stasher:
Heh, this tendency is actually what lead me to go down this line of thinking. I noticed that I always want to upgrade my gear or, failing that, at least know about the latest gear, well beyond what I need for my particular skill level and goals (a strategy for not upgrading gear ...
Heh, this tendency is actually what lead me to go down this line of thinking. I noticed that I always want to upgrade my gear or, failing that, at least know about the latest gear, well beyond what I need for my particular skill level and goals (a strategy for not upgrading gear ...
- Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:25 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
Mimetic Desire and Identity
Mimetic desire is an idea put forth by historian Rene Girard. It posits that, aside from physiological desires, human desires are not spontaneous but mimetic or learned from others. Desire is a social process. Girard uses this theory to build a theory of social ...
Mimetic desire is an idea put forth by historian Rene Girard. It posits that, aside from physiological desires, human desires are not spontaneous but mimetic or learned from others. Desire is a social process. Girard uses this theory to build a theory of social ...
- Sun Jun 15, 2025 9:18 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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- Views: 397048
Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
This discussion is basically the contents of my next two posts which are titled "Mimetic Desire and Identity" and "Status and Esteem."
It's tempting to comment on this discussion from the idea I've developed, but I don't want to do that before I've laid it out.
Y'all are having the discussion and ...
It's tempting to comment on this discussion from the idea I've developed, but I don't want to do that before I've laid it out.
Y'all are having the discussion and ...
- Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:17 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
@Lemur: That's a great summary about what I've been trying to say up until this point. By creating the conditions to meet our physiological needs easily we've created a world where things don't quite make sense for us. Continually trying to find food and avoid death with the community you were de ...
- Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:58 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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- Views: 397048
Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
Toward a Theory of Status and Esteem Needs
Needs beyond the physiological present interesting challenges. If these needs are not strictly necessary for biological survival, where do they come from?
For the purpose of this series I'm using the word "need" to mean anything that drives human ...
Needs beyond the physiological present interesting challenges. If these needs are not strictly necessary for biological survival, where do they come from?
For the purpose of this series I'm using the word "need" to mean anything that drives human ...
- Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:33 am
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
- Replies: 118
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Re: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
A fair nitpick would be that the first headline is 2x the money of the second headline.
Ah I was rounding using a 90% savings rate, forgetting how much a few percentage points in savings rate effects things at high savings rates...
If we're using a 33x savings goal the equivalent is "internet ...
- Tue Jun 10, 2025 6:21 pm
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
- Replies: 118
- Views: 8334
Re: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
I thought of a new way to characterize what I see as the difference between pursuing ERE without focusing on achieving FI first (what I call semiERE) and pursuing ERE with a focus on achieving FI first.
The headline I hear for semiERE:
"Internet person figures out how to get 10 years of living ...
The headline I hear for semiERE:
"Internet person figures out how to get 10 years of living ...
- Tue Jun 10, 2025 4:41 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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- Views: 397048
Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
I somewhat disagree on the basis that both old people and adolescents often "don't care what people think"
I don't think that anyone truly does not care what anyone else thinks. My explanation of this is the subject of the next several posts.
@Ego: It still seems like you're arguing that the ...
- Fri Jun 06, 2025 3:29 pm
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: The Education of Axel Heyst
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Re: The Education of Axel Heyst
@AH:
I view myself as the defender of all non-linear paths to FI. As such I want to point out that the path you pursued was... highly non-linear. From my perspective you opted to semi-retire by going down to 1 day a week at your j*b. Eventually you were laid off. This freed you to pursue a purely ...
I view myself as the defender of all non-linear paths to FI. As such I want to point out that the path you pursued was... highly non-linear. From my perspective you opted to semi-retire by going down to 1 day a week at your j*b. Eventually you were laid off. This freed you to pursue a purely ...
- Tue May 13, 2025 3:10 pm
- Forum: Inspiration
- Topic: When did you discover ERE?
- Replies: 51
- Views: 25804
Re: When did you discover ERE?
I found ERE due to sex workers. My then gf found ERE and MMM from posts on the stripperweb forum.
- Mon Apr 28, 2025 5:24 pm
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
- Replies: 70
- Views: 6068
Re: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
Yes, I agree. We spend the majority of our time working and buying signals that we are not impoverished, irresponsible, boring or uncool.
Why are we doing this?
Is this what we want to spend our lives doing?
Why are we doing this?
Is this what we want to spend our lives doing?
- Mon Apr 28, 2025 10:50 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
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Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
@7: I found that shame thing about modernity quite interesting as well.
How well does this jive with the fact during the sustained Nazi bombings of UK cities known as the Blitz, asylum admissions went down significantly and many long-term patients actually improved?
Bombing is a direct threat ...
How well does this jive with the fact during the sustained Nazi bombings of UK cities known as the Blitz, asylum admissions went down significantly and many long-term patients actually improved?
Bombing is a direct threat ...
- Mon Apr 28, 2025 9:33 am
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
- Replies: 70
- Views: 6068
Re: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
I read the essays and I think this is an excellent summary.
@AH - It's popped up here and there before, but Aristotle identified "the good, the true, and the beautiful". Within medieval Christianity, which relied/stole heavily from the Greeks, these are also known as the transcendentals. I was ...
@AH - It's popped up here and there before, but Aristotle identified "the good, the true, and the beautiful". Within medieval Christianity, which relied/stole heavily from the Greeks, these are also known as the transcendentals. I was ...
- Mon Apr 21, 2025 8:06 am
- Forum: ERE Journals
- Topic: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
- Replies: 1043
- Views: 397048
Re: Damn it Feels Good to be a Gangsta
Modernism, Safety Needs and Fear
I am using a modified (by me) version of Maslow's (extended) Hierarchy of Needs. The modification I'm using removes "safety" as an individual need level that follows physiological. Instead I assign "safety" to three different systems: physiological (somatic ...
I am using a modified (by me) version of Maslow's (extended) Hierarchy of Needs. The modification I'm using removes "safety" as an individual need level that follows physiological. Instead I assign "safety" to three different systems: physiological (somatic ...
- Sat Apr 12, 2025 3:39 pm
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
- Replies: 70
- Views: 6068
Re: The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE
Denying aesthetics is denying life. The sharp line between the intellectual and the aesthetic is made up.
Some of the old guard weren't interested unless sharp blades were involved because they realized that eliminating danger changed both the fighting, the fight, and the fighters completely ...
Some of the old guard weren't interested unless sharp blades were involved because they realized that eliminating danger changed both the fighting, the fight, and the fighters completely ...
- Fri Apr 04, 2025 9:27 am
- Forum: Philosophy and Lifestyle Questions
- Topic: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
- Replies: 118
- Views: 8334
Re: semiERE: exploring semi-retirement
@jacob: There are years of people on the forum using semiERE to mean what you described as "slowmodeERE." There are also years of people using it as you've described.
I agree that this is confusing due to how semi-retirement is defined in Clyatt's book. I agree that if we are following naming ...
I agree that this is confusing due to how semi-retirement is defined in Clyatt's book. I agree that if we are following naming ...