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The Aesthetics of Existence, the Will to Art, and ERE

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I'm working my way through Samuel Alexander's essays on the Aesthetics of Existence and thought it worth a thread to explore a) the themes of the essays and b) their intersection with the ERE project as a whole and c) implications for our own individual WoGs.

ETA: I put this down at the bottom of this post originally, and it was pointed out to me that the TLDR'ers aren't going to read the "please don't TLDR this thread" if it's after a few thousand words, so sticking to the top:
Feel free to participate however you like, just please no tl;dr. Respond to at least a minimum viable chunk of Samuel Alexander's work that you've actually read, like a full essay, and not just the titles of the essays or something someone else posted about.
Okay, let me try to loft some context:
Over the last ten years Dr Samuel Alexander has been a lecturer and researcher at the University of Melbourne, Australia, teaching a course called ‘Consumerism and the Growth Economy: Critical Interdisciplinary Perspectives’ as part of the Master of Environment. He has also been a Research Fellow with the Melbourne Sustainable Society Institute and is currently co-Director of the Simplicity Institute. In 2024 he begins his role as Academic Director with the School for International Training, coordinating and lecturing into a university course called Sustainability and Environmental Action.

Alexander’s interdisciplinary research focuses on degrowth, permaculture, voluntary simplicity, ‘grassroots’ theories of transition, and the relationship between culture and political economy.
Among other books he wrote Entropia: A Life Beyond Industrial Civilization, which I've read a few times. I also have his book Art Against Empire, where I first came across the "life as aesthetic project" concept with his earlier asethetics essays (part1 and part 2).

A couple of my favorite quotes from those early essays that somewhat concisely contextualize the project:
Moreover, it will be argued that only by acknowledging, appreciating and operating within the aesthetic dimension can there be any hope for deep revision in the established politico-economic order in the direction and form of degrowth. After all, it is one thing to establish firm scientific, ethical, and philosophical foundations for degrowth, but if there is no felt need in society for such a transition then this can be understood in part as an aesthetic obstacle that demands an aesthetic intervention or series of interventions. A major prerequisite to deep societal transformation, as Marcuse (1978, pp. 3-4) implored, is ‘the fact the need for radical change must be rooted in the subjectivity of individuals themselves, in their intelligence and their passions, their drives, and their goals.’ Accordingly, the degrowth movement’s neglect of the aesthetic realm arguably constitutes a failure that is hurting the movement for change.
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If the meaning of life does not announce itself to us or lie ‘out there’ in external metaphysical reality waiting to be discovered, it follows that we must instead create as an aesthetic project the meaning of our own lives, as well as collectively shape as an aesthetic project the societies in which we live, just as that society inevitably shapes us.
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Nevertheless, a re-fashioning of the self in line with voluntary simplicity will not be enough on its own to produce a degrowth society, owing to the fact that consumption practices take place within structural constraints. Within consumer capitalism it can be very difficult, at times even impossible, to consume in ways that accord with one’s conception of justice and sustainability, because structural constraints can lock us into high-consumption, high-carbon modes of life (Sanne 2002). For these reasons voluntary simplicity as an aesthetics of existence is a necessary though not sufficient response to existing crises. It lacks a systemic perspective, which is why I have been drawn to expand the analysis in terms of ‘degrowth as an aesthetics of existence.’ This is intended to highlight the fact that current crises are ultimately systemic crises that require a systemic response—not merely a cultural response—even if that systemic or political response begins with the aesthetic self-transformation of our given subjectivities; begins, as J.K Gibson-Graham (2006) would put it, with a ‘politics of the subject’.
In the Introduction he lays out a road map of each essay. Here it is:
1. In the opening essay, ‘The Cosmos as a “Readymade”: Dignifying the Aesthetic Universe’ I engage the French artist, Marcel Duchamp. Duchamp’s provocative innovation was to select ordinary, mundane items – something ‘readymade’, as he would call these manufactured objects – and declare them art. His most famous readymade piece is Fountain (1917), which was merely an ordinary, mass- produced urinal. To develop the foundations of my aesthetic position, I wish to extend Duchamp’s infamous gesture in two ways. First, by exploring the possibility of adopting his inclusive aesthetic disposition, not merely when presented with an art object, but as a form of life. My project is based upon this thorough-going aestheticism, which, in later essays, I will argue has ethical, political, even spiritual implications. My second extension of Duchamp is to expand the category of the ‘readymade’ to include the cosmos itself. After all, if Duchamp was able to dignify a urinal by aestheticising it, then I intend to claim the same dignity for the universe as a whole.

2. Having clarified and developed my aesthetic orientation, I then provide more detail on my mythopoetic cosmology in ‘Creative Evolution and the Will to Art’. Contrasting the metaphor of ‘universe-as-machine’ with the metaphor ‘universe-as- artist’, I present a case for the latter, developing the preliminary overview of the Will to Art stated at the beginning of this introduction. This transfiguration of the cosmos doesn’t involve changing any of the physical characters of the object under consideration but rather changing its ontological character through redescription in ways that call on individuals to engage with the object differently. The experience of art, I will argue, is less about an objective encounter with a physical entity and more about poetic engagement with the possibilities of meaning that surround the entity under aesthetic contemplation – in this case, the universe itself.

3. In the next two essays I acknowledge my debts to Schopenhauer and Nietzsche – a task which also allows me to highlight areas where my own position can be distinguished from theirs. In ‘Pessimism without Despair: Suffering, Desire, and the Affirmation of Life’, I examine Schopenhauer’s quasi-Buddhist metaphysics, an extremely gloomy but necessary undertaking. Schopenhauer maintained, not without some plausibility, that suffering lies at the core of existence. He believed suffering was the result of a blind and purposeless ‘Will to Live’ that is experienced in human consciousness as insatiable and painful desire. After describing this pessimistic worldview – summarised in his grim conclusion that ‘life must be some sort of mistake’32 – I will consider how he responded with an ethic of compassion; I will also summarise his views on art and aesthetics; and I will outline his ultimate orientation toward life, which involves ‘denying the will’ through ascetic practices of self- renunciation. This philosophy of resignation provides the groundwork for assessing Nietzsche’s critical engagement with Schopenhauer; in particular, I will examine how Nietzsche ‘revalues the value of suffering’ in search of a way to transcend Schopenhauerian pessimism and affirm life, despite the prevalence of suffering.

4. In ‘An Aesthetic Justification of Existence: The Redemptive Function of Art’, I continue my assessment of Nietzschean philosophy by analysing his famous pronouncement, found in The Birth of Tragedy (1872), that it is only as an ‘aesthetic phenomenon’ that existence and the world can be justified.33 This examination involves distinguishing his notion of an aesthetic justification from religious or rational justifications, which will help to clarify what it might mean to say that existence could be justified as an aesthetic phenomenon. This draws us into Nietzsche’s views on art –tragic art in particular – and I will consider whether or how art can provide a redemptive function in a world replete with suffering and where it seems no other religious or metaphysical comforts exist to offer existential consolation.

5. Even if one were to accept Nietzsche’s response to the problem of suffering, human beings would still find themselves facing the problem of nihilism or meaninglessness. Confronting this challenge, in ‘Camus on Art and Revolt: Overcoming Nihilism in an Absurd Universe’, I turn to the work of philosopher and novelist Albert Camus, exploring the ways in which he articulated the problem of meaning and how he developed an aesthetic response to it. Rather than resign himself to nihilism – the view that nothing matters in a world without God or objective meaning – Camus would develop an aesthetics of revolt. This view of the human condition burdens us all with the task of creating our own values, which is not a project of rational discovery but rather an aesthetic project of invention and commitment. Given that human beings all suffer the same ‘absurd’ condition, Camus maintained we can also find in this tragic reality a ground for human solidarity. We will see that Camus argues that art justifies itself not for its own sake but as something that can present a vision of human dignity in a world full of suffering and oppression. Art thus ‘rejects the world on account of what it lacks… in the name of what it sometimes is.’34

6. The term ‘aestheticism’, which I am embracing, has acquired a bad name today. It is employed primarily as a pejorative, directed most often toward people or movements associated with Dandyism. The dandy character attempts to make life a work of art through such things as eccentric dress, attention-seeking behaviour, and the hedonistic pursuit of sensory pleasures. If I am to succeed in reclaiming this dubious term – to make it a plausible centre piece of the current project – then further attention must be given to how aestheticism has acquired its contemporary meaning, what that meaning is, and how I intend to employ the term quite differently. Those are my tasks in ‘Rescuing Aestheticism from the Dandies: Critical Distinctions’. Dandyism is a form of aestheticism, albeit a rather crude one, but I will show that aestheticism is far from exhausted by Dandyism. If I can clarify this distinction, I should have advanced the cause of rehabilitating aestheticism in helpful and important ways.

7. Having surveyed, in the previous essays, some philosophical territory on the human condition, I turn to questions concerning aesthetics from an evolutionary perspective in ‘Homo Aestheticus, the Artful Species: An Evolutionary Perspective’. Here I examine what role art and aesthetics may have played in evolutionary history. It is easy enough to acknowledge that art could not have existed without the humans who produced it. Few consider the possibility, however, that humans could not have appeared without our arts. In that spirit, I consider the idea that every human being, on account of evolutionary inheritances, can and should be described as part of an ‘artful species’ – homo aestheticus.35 When looking to the past it will become clear that the arts have helped our species survive, develop, and flourish in often hostile, uncertain, and changing environments. Looking forward, then, it seems plausible that the wise use of the arts may also be central to our own survival in an age of environmental limits, where our aesthetic capacities and sensibilities are currently being dangerously distorted and repressed, resulting in what I will call an aesthetic deficit disorder

8. One of the philosophical problems I am exploring in this collection of essays concerns the apparent conflict between biology and philosophy when it comes to understanding human beings. On the one hand, there is the view widely held amongst evolutionary biologists and psychologists that humans have a ‘common nature’ by virtue of our long, shared species’ history; on the other hand, there is a philosophical view, widely held by post-Nietzscheans of various schools, that humans have no ‘given’ nature but are everyday tasked with creating it. In short, the first position holds that there is a common human nature; the second holds that human nature, as such, does not exist. In ‘Giving Birth to Oneself: Ethics as an “Aesthetics of Existence”’, I develop a synthesis of these apparently conflicting literatures, a possibility which was opened up to me by a reading of evolutionary biology through the lens of art and aesthetics. Specifically, I explore a range of philosophical arguments that support the conception of human beings as ‘self-creators’, drawing primarily on Michel Foucault and Richard Rorty, both of whom have Nietzsche as a prominent influence. I will also begin considering some of the social and political implications of self-creation through a critical examination of Rorty’s vision of a ‘poeticised culture’.

9. In ‘The Politics of Beauty: Schiller on Freedom and Aesthetic Education’ I review some critical perspectives on modernity and the Enlightenment project through the lens of Friedrich Schiller’s theory of aesthetic education. Despite always remaining a champion of reason, Schiller was also one of its severest critics, and in a decisive and original move he argued that ‘the way to the head must lie through the heart.’36 This is not an anti-intellectual point, however. He was offering the profound and subtle insight that through beauty – through the works of poets, painters, musicians, and storytellers – we are best able to engage the intellect having first affected the emotions. Moreover, he believed that moral, ethical, and political reasoning must engage the heart to be effective, for reason and rationality will fail to motivate or transform behaviour without emotional appeal. I engage these ideas through a close reading of Schiller’s Letters on the Aesthetic Education of Man (1794).

10. At this stage in the project I need to acknowledge a significant problem regarding my conceptualisation of human beings as homo aestheticus. It is a problem that is evident as soon as one turns from theory to the world as it is: if we are an artful species, one that is creative and self-constituting, why is it that the world is so full of oppression, servitude, anxiety, and ugliness? If we are evolutionarily shaped to be aesthetic agents in an aesthetic universe, why do we see cultures – I’m thinking of the ‘advanced’ affluent cultures in particular – seemingly content to distract themselves with the trinkets and baubles offered by consumer capitalism? In ‘Bad Faith and the Fear of Freedom: Can Art Shake Us Awake?’, I attempt to illuminate aspects of this problematic by drawing on Jean-Paul Sartre’s notion of ‘bad faith’ and Erich Fromm’s idea of the ‘fear of freedom’. These two ideas help explain the dire state of human freedom and aesthetic activity today, while also showing why this problem is within our power to resolve.

11. In my earlier essay on Schiller I looked at aesthetic education primarily from a philosophical perspective. In ‘Banish the Poets! The Power and Politics of Aesthetic Education’ I attempt to ground the analysis more firmly in the soci0- political domain. This involves considering aesthetic education from three angles. First, I compare and contrast an ‘education for profit’ with an ‘aesthetic education’. Second, I consider the so-called ‘information deficit model’ of change. This theory assumes that human beings are fundamentally rational, evidence-based thinkers and, on that basis, the theory implies that the primary means of societal progress is more evidence and better arguments. I will argue that this is at best a partial and often misleading theory of change, one that marginalises the role of the arts and aesthetic education in social and political transformation. Third, I diagnose an imaginative sterility in contemporary culture, which has left many citizens largely unable to envision forms of life beyond consumer capitalism. Political and cultural theorist Mark Fisher called this enclosing of the imagination ‘capitalist realism’,37 often defined as the view that it is easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. The purpose of this tripartite analysis is to explore to what extent a reinvigorated aesthetic education might be needed to resolve these obstacles and drive societal trans- formation.

12. Defending the social and political import of the arts, as I have been doing, can invite the rejoinder that art, in fact, is useless; that artists have no political impact; and that aesthetics is either apolitical or politically dangerous. In ‘Making Art While the World Weeps: Political Reflections on Aesthetics’ I address these types of objections. I set out to deconstruct any simplistic dismissal of aesthetics by examining the blurry distinction between art, life, and politics, in order to show that there is in fact an inherent aesthetic dimension to life and politics, just as there is a political or even revolutionary potential inherent to certain forms of art or aesthetic practice. In doing so, my analysis is shaped by the emerging ‘aesthetic turn’38 in politics and by various political interpretations of art and aesthetics. To be clear, my position is not that we should or should not infuse politics with aesthetic considerations, but rather, as Jacques Rancière states, that ‘politics is aesthetic in principle.’39

13. Having raised questions about the political significance of aesthetics, in ‘Art Against Empire: Marcuse on the Aesthetics of Revolt’ I turn to examine the writings of critical theorist Herbert Marcuse. After reviewing his central theses on the potentially transformative role of art in society, I develop the analysis by proposing a categorisation that helps clarify art’s diverse political functions. The four categories are: i) aesthetic indictment, which involves using art to help expose the injustices and violence that can be hidden in the political system or dominant cultural values; ii) aesthetic imagination, which involves using art to help expand the imagination so that alternative futures can be envisioned, as well as help expand ethical sympathises so that people previously deemed ‘other’ can be come to fall within the circle of care and concern; iii) aesthetic revision of ‘needs’, which involves exploring the ways in which art can help reshape human needs, drives, and hopes in ways that lay the cultural foundations for political change; and finally, iv) aesthetic enchantment, which involves the ways in which art, beauty, and aesthetic value more broadly can give emotional energy to people in ways that have political effects.

14. In ‘Answering Estragon: Art, Godot, and Utopia’, I continue my aesthetic inquiries by considering whether art can not merely be a means to creating a good society but also shape our understanding of the end of social and political struggle. In other words, I set out to understand to what extent art and aesthetics can provide ultimate values that could inform not just how to transition to a more humane and liberated society but also shape what that society looks like or ought to look like. I take my point of departure from a line in Samuel Beckett’s Waiting for Godot (1953), where Estragon asks his fellow tramp, Vladimir: ‘What do we do now, now that we are happy?’ ⁠⁠In response I argue for a politics of meaning – to be distinguished from utilitarianism and conventional liberalism – where political struggle is understood as seeking to maximise opportunities for oneself and others to live a meaningful life in harmony with nature. My thesis is that this search for meaning in life is best achieved through art, a living strategy that has the significant benefit of not requiring high levels of material provision.⁠⁠

15. The Grand Narrative of industrial civilisation is a story of progress within which societies advance by way of continuous economic growth, rising affluence, and technological innovation. In ‘Industrial Aesthetics: A Critique of Taste’ I focus on the aesthetics of industrialisation and consumerism, examining various aesthetic dimensions of consumption practices in the affluent capitalist societies. ⁠⁠The purpose is to show that transcending consumerism and the growth economy may well depend on first overcoming various aesthetic obstacles, practices, and tastes. These obstacles include the stories and myths we tell about ourselves and societies; the ways we shape our identities and communicate through consumption; the disaffection and alienation that evidently is widely experienced in consumer societies, even by those who have achieved high consumption lifestyles; and the way dominant conceptions of taste and social legitimation regarding material living standards entrench materialistic conceptions of the good life.⁠⁠ We may all have internalised these cultural narratives to some extent, often unconsciously. ⁠⁠It follows that ethical and political activity today may require us to engage the self by the self for the purpose of refusing who we are – insofar as we are uncritical consumers – and creating new, post-consumerist forms of subjectivity.⁠⁠

16. To this point I have presented a worldview that conceives of the universe as an aesthetic phenomenon and human beings as an artful species. Art and the aesthetic dimensions of life were upheld as being of ultimate value in such a world, and I have also drawn on various intellectual traditions to explain why art is central to the transformative process of bringing about such an aestheticised society of self-creators through aesthetic education and artful interventions in culture and politics. In ‘Artful Descent: A Cosmodicy of SMPLCTY’ this vision is developed further, through the lens of energy. I focus on the work of anthropologist and historian, Joseph Tainter, especially his seminal text, The Collapse of Complex Societies (1988). Although largely sympathetic with Tainter’s theory, I critically engage it in ways that leads me to conclusions he would reject. In doing so I present a defence of ‘voluntary simplification’ – essentially Tainter’s term for degrowth. This term denotes a dynamic process of radical societal evolution which seeks to solve the most essential problems of life while minimising energy and resource demands. I maintain that voluntary simplification may be the only means of avoiding the civilisational process of complexity-to-collapse. My main argument is that art and aesthetic experience are promising and available means of ‘living more with less’ – of flourishing in simplicity. To the extent this is true, it would follow that opportunities for low-impact aesthetic practice and experience ought to be expanded as our material and energy demands contract for reasons of justice, sustainability, and wellbeing.

17. If it is the case, as argued in the previous essay, that civilisational stability depends on forms of societal organisation that reflect voluntary simplification, then questions arise about what such a way of life might look like, and feel like, in terms of daily practice. In ‘Poet-Farmer: A Thoreauvian Aesthetics’, I turn to the life and philosophy of American philosopher and pioneering environmentalist Henry David Thoreau to highlight the perspective of ‘voluntary simplicity’ which lies at the heart of SMPLCTY. As a transitional strategy, I will argue that voluntary simplification or degrowth will depend on an aesthetic transformation of tastes in relation to material culture. One of the central theses in this volume of essays is that the aesthetic capacities and sensibilities of humankind can be fully explored in rich and satisfying ways, while living ‘simply’ in a material and energetic sense. On that basis, I am proposing that expanding opportunities for artistic expression and aesthetic experience are among the best ways of moving toward a civilisation that is environmentally sustainable, socially just, and personally fulfilling. In that light I have employed the term SMPLCTY to refer to an ecological civilisation of simple living ‘poet-farmers’. Following Thoreau’s lead, these citizens would live aesthetically stimulating and diverse lives while mindfully constraining material and energy requirements.

18. The previous essay set out to convey a material culture of sufficiency mainly from Thoreau’s individualist perspective. In Democratising the Poet: William Morris on the Art of Everyday Life, some of the social implications are explored in relation to the aesthetic philosophy of William Morris. I have already acknowledged how my broad definition of art (as the pleasurable and meaningful expression of creative labour) is indebted to Morris, and in this essay, I explore how he developed his aesthetic perspectives into a socio-political vision which he called a Democracy of Art. I begin by discussing his definition of art in more detail, before reviewing how this took social form in his eco-utopian novel, News from Nowhere (1890). After that I examine some of the theoretical foundations of that vision, focussing in particular on the relationship between material needs and labour. It will be seen that Morris celebrated the role of self-governed creative activity in everyday life, through which humans skilfully produced things by hand that were necessary for a good life. I conclude by exploring the political significance of Morris’s aesthetic views, which will allow me to bring together some of the societal implications of the preceding essays.

19. In the penultimate essay I address some more of the political implications of my arguments, in ‘The Aesthetic State’. This concept was touched on in the essay on Schiller, who wrote that ‘the most perfect’40 of all works of art is the ‘construction of true political freedom.’41 It was seen, however, that he never developed his comments on the aesthetic state into a formal theory. I will attempt to build on this preliminary work, developing some of Schiller’s ideas in relation to the arguments and perspectives offered in this collection of essays.

20. I will close this collection by engaging Herman Hesse’s novel The Glass Bead Game. This book tells the story of a community of artist-monks who live simple yet aesthetically rich lives in a province called Castalia. I focus on the theme of social and political ‘engagement’, central to Hesse’s book, which provides a fitting capstone to this (ongoing) project.
I'm particularly excited to read the Tainter and Glass Bead Game essays.

As I work through these I'll use this thread as a place to post notes, thoughts, questions, etc. Feel free to participate however you like, just please no tl;dr. Respond to at least a minimum viable chunk of Samuel Alexander's work that you've actually read, like a full essay, and not just the titles of the essays.
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I've read the preface and introduction so far. Also, for context, I've been working on wrapping my head and actions around "self-actualization" for the past few months.

Today while eating a warm cookie, it occurred to me that if the telos of the universe is an arc towards beauty and the fundamental driver is the Will to Art, then maybe actualization can be understood as fulfilling one's potential for creating (/living as) and experiencing (perceiving) beauty/art. One's potential can be understood/framed as one's unique capacity to realize art/beauty in the world, and to experience it.

I keep saying create AND experience because Alexander makes clear that part of the Will to Art concept is the will of the universe to experience itself, giving rise to the idea that the 'purpose' of consciousness aka the 'reason' consciousness developed is to enable the universe to experience itself. (This framing has been my chosen metaphysics for about a decade now - the purpose of the universe is to experience and worship itself.)

Also, he says it pretty early on but it's worth emphasizing that Alexander is not talking only about formal 'art' or merely the 'artistic activities' writing/painting/music/dance/etc. Fulfilling one's potential for 'creating art' out of one's life in this sense could have nothing to do with any of those activities. This makes me think about pulling in ideas from Existential Kink -- specifically the desire to experience *all* flavors and realms of experience, even/including the "bad" ones -- and how that fits or doesn't into the Will to Art.

Anyways, the relationship between "living life as an artistic/aesthetic project" and "self-actualization" is top of mind these days, especially within the context of living in interesting times. I think there is something potentially valuable in taking an aesthetic perspective on how to act/behave/experience volatile socio-political moments, in the sense of Gary Snyder's response to "If it's hopeless, why continue to fight?"

His response was "because it's a matter of character and of style."

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Interesting. Two quick thoughts would be that (1)this is likely relevant to Hanzi's take on the lack of aesthetics found in spiral dynamics and similar, and (2) it is also highly relevant to the practice of permaculture, because you eventually, for instance, grok that the reason why the flower aesthetically appeals to you is the same reason it aesthetically appeals to the bee. IOW, the dull ugliness of acre after acre of uniform field corn 2 patent pending is also evidence of it's lack of resilience/sustainability.

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Disclaimer: I've noticed that art (and artists) always seem to have to justify themselves and their creations. For that reason, I do not think not think art is the goal of the universe to experience itself---most humans can't recognize art if it bit them in the ass; I also, therefore, do not believe there's a "universal will to art". To put on my cynical hat: "Art is for those who can't do engineering". As a lens, I think it's an unproductive direction. I'll try to keep an open mind, but this is where I'm coming from whenever I hear the word art :-)

Shots fired, okay then, ... to comment on aesthetics or art as it pertains to the actual subject.

I'm not sure I missed the point or it was obvious. We have over the years had a few threads discussing the importance of aesthetics/looking attractive in terms of convincing drawing others to the lifestyle. For example, the importance of referring to dinner as "a deliciously healthful vegan stew" instead of "lentil soup".

However, this is considering art as a product of creation whether it's a soup, a painting, or a urinal. For ERE, I think it would be more useful to think of it as lifestyle as an art. That is basically this
“The master in the art of living makes little distinction between his work and his play, his labor and his leisure, his mind and his body, his information and his recreation, his love and his religion. He hardly knows which is which. He simply pursues his vision of excellence at whatever he does, leaving others to decide whether he is working or playing. To him he's always doing both. ”
The problem here is that many outsiders will not recognize this kind of living as art. However, many non-artists will also not recognize the difference between the finger painting of 6yos and those of a famous artist! For such art to drive societal transformation, this general recognition seems necessary. Otherwise it remains a closed intellectual/mutual admiration society for artists or eremites respectively.

As such we're back to the "teaching process" (CCCCCC). The problem is that most humans are simply not Creative, that is, any "creation" they actually make is NOT based on any kind of Coordination, Computing, Compiling, Comparing, or even Copying. Indeed, when rookie painters often start at the simplest level possible by Copying some picture and then going through the C's from there to become actual Creators.

In terms of Art of Living, it comes down to the same thing. ERE is high-level in that it operates around the Coordinating and Creating level most of the time. The common man rather needs someone to Copy and Compare to. How to do that?

This has usually been done by rules and ceremonies. In church people may eat a biscuit or fold their hands w/o understanding any symbolic meaning or how this act serves to transform society from power to rules. The tea ceremony is a serious of elaborate moves meant to communicate a peace offer/establish connection. And then there's tradition ...

I actually do not know [a method for] how Creative people come up with such things for the Copyers/Compilers to follow. Do they throw mud on the wall to see what sticks? Do they tap into the psyche for something innately attractive (the aesthetics)? I don't know. I don't need aesthetics to get shit done, but I do know that many need it to get started.

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Rob Greenfield seems to have figured out how to [use art to] connect the environmental SD:Green culture. Both in terms of performance stunts as well as how he lives his entire life.

In terms of my own self-transformation into a middle-class sub-urban lookalike, it has certainly helped connect better and more to SD:Orange. MMM has done an even better/more effective job at that.

This speaks to a different issue of "art as communication" cf. "art as a way of being". The problem here, of course, is that you win some, you lose some. Would you rather your art be liked by 1M people or would you rather your art be fully understood even if it is just 1 other person?

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I think the answer is basically the same as the answer to "How do you lead somebody down the garden path?" It requires the duality of that which is seen and that which is not yet seen and the tension that mild unease brings to current comfort.

So, for example, the large discontinuity between working 40 hrs/week and not working at all may be problematic, because the only bridging aesthetic representative of "freedom" is maybe a graphical representation on a spread-sheet.

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7Wannabe5 wrote:
Sun Apr 06, 2025 8:36 am
So, for example, the large discontinuity between working 40 hrs/week and not working at all may be problematic, because the only bridging aesthetic representative of "freedom" is maybe a graphical representation on a spread-sheet.
I've encountered a similar "communications problem" in that the only kinds of freedom-to a working consumer will recognize is travel, cafe/restaurants, and movies/lectures. I'm still catching shit for the DIY laundry detergent demonstration, which I had hoped would have communicated "an obvious and empowering way that anyone can use to take back control and save some money" but which was widely interpreted as "can't afford to buy a colorful plastic bottle".

A useful lens would be to those "what my mother thinks I do, what my co-workers think I do, what society thinks I do, what I think I do" memes that were popular some years back.

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I agree that there is a communications problem. For example, I recently experienced reducing my shelter expenses from $550 back down to $0 as a sort of sensual or aesthetic rush, but most people would better appreciate the aesthetics of my cute little apartment in which I lived by myself than my current occupation of spare room in my mother's apartment in senior living building, although this particular senior living building also has interesting architecture. The aesthetic element I am considering when I consider the $0/month choice to be 'better" is the whorl which is representative of the creation of space within space. I also would have been engaging the design element of the whorl, if I had been able to tuck my small business within the confines of my tiny apartment. The Alice in Wonderland trick of rendering yourself tiny alters perspective in a manner that renders the formerly small into the grand and abundant.

A similar example would be that the aesthetic of shopping with $3 at the dollar store at the strip mall is not to be envied, but the aesthetics of gathering $3 worth of returnable bottles on your scavenger walk along the river, and also some plant clippings, and some berries, and a photo of a heron, and then cashing in your bottles for a red ceramic plant pot or a tiny tart pan or a silver photo frame at the thrift store are more appealing. Or you could primitive technology your own pot, pan, and frame from nature or scavenge them from a dumpster. The aesthetic design elements of the process might be the meander, serendipity, the infinite regress, and the elements as element.

Challenges that include an aesthetic standard as well as a standard of frugality are often very fun. For example, brainstorm a theme for your new style, and then visualize/alter/create your new look making use of only an extremely small amount of money. I entitled my new style for my 7th decade on the planet Hip-Hop Bicycle-with-a-Basket Posh.

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jacob wrote:
Sun Apr 06, 2025 7:35 am
most humans can't recognize art if it bit them in the ass
This confuses me. Most people are sensors with, in my experience, lots of aesthetic preferences for everything ranging from clothing to motorcycles to neighborhoods to galaxies. An intuitive is just more likely to cut up the universe into bits and pieces connected through abstract as opposed to concrete patterns to call and explain as art or engineering.

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@daylen - I refer back to how most people can't tell the art of a 6yo from the art of an artist. I think of "aesthetics" as some kind of system. Perhaps I'm wrong in that assumption. However, if people can't tell, then that system = random, which means that most people do not have a sense of aesthetics.

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If most people did not have a sense of the aesthetic they would also be largely incapable of mating or distinguishing palatable food from rot and fecal matter. Most humans can and do judge beauty and sensual appeal along a fairly fine gradient, and the fact that many are unable to transfer this judgment to the realm of abstract art is fairly irrelevant, unless ERE does represent a lifestyle that can only be appreciated at the level of the abstract.

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Okay, so we're back to the CCCCCC ... where people will judge art according to
Copy) How alike [the art] is to an already accepted piece of art (e.g. it's not art if the painting doesn't depict a vase of flowers or a fruit bowl)
Compare) Whether [a piece of art] is better than [another piece of art]
Compile) How [the piece of art] fits into a group with similar art ("abstract from concrete" ability)
Compute) What makes the art art and not not-art
Coordinate) How a piece of art fits into the context
Create) Making a piece of art that comments on the context while simultaneous doing all of the above

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jacob wrote:
Sun Apr 06, 2025 10:50 am
@daylen - I refer back to how most people can't tell the art of a 6yo from the art of an artist.
This immediately made me think of the Picasso quote:

"Every child is an artist. The problem is staying an artist when you grow up."

I bring it up because he would argue that creativity is innate in humanity. Some might argue the teaching process is the first step in stifling creativity.The latter half relates to the Camus quote in the Alexander Introduction:

‘Rising, tram, four hours in the office or factory, meal, tram, four hours of work, meal, sleep and Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday, according to the same rhythm – this path is easily followed most of the time. But one day the “why” arises and everything begins in that weariness tinged with amazement.’

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A couple thoughts today on the intersection between the Aesthetics of Existence and ERE, from highlights from the preface and introduction:

The Aesthetic Internal
Art will be defined broadly and openly as the meaningful and pleasurable expression of creative labour, and human experience can be considered ‘aesthetic’ if it flows from the sensuous engagement with art or nature.
I'm really leaning in to this idea of aesthetics as having to do with the quality of an experience, rather than my old colloquial understand of aesthetics as 'how something looks' or 'the style/fashion of a thing'. My old understanding led me to only understand "aesthetics" as something that had necessarily to do with other people: I might have restricted my understanding/thinking of aesthetics as either something one does FOR someone else's consumption/experience. It would not have made sense to me to think of an experience as aesthetic if I were the only one participating in the experience.

My understanding is inverting: I'm getting a sense for aesthetics as something first and foremost an entirely internal experience, *inclusive of* the motivations for having such and such an experience. In other words, my zeroth order motivation with regards to aesthetics, properly understood, can only have to do with my own sensual experiences.

To construct a statement of the form "I want to do X in order to cultivate a specific aesthetic in other people" can *only* mean "I want to create conditions such that others can have access to such and such an internal experience as I have in mind" OR it can be a semantics error, and what I meant was "I want to do X as an act of branding, marketing, or advertising."

I don't want to get too far down the road of thinking through how to induce certain/specific aesthetic experiences in others -- in an echo of my journey with voluntary simplicity, I feel I need to collapse my scope down to the personal first before I have a foundation from which to expand. So I probably won't talk/engage much for a while on the theme of e.g. how to craft a certain aesthetic with a certain desired demographic response in mind, particularly because I'm not at all certain that that is a coherent project.

In other words, I'm putting my attention to the second type of aesthetics that Alexander refers to here, and the kind to which I think is the bulk of what his essay collection is about:
And what might those dimensions be? Aesthetics can be understood as having two primary meanings. The first pertains to the philosophy of art and beauty – exploring issues such as the meaning of art, the nature of beauty, judgements of taste, and the role of the artist in society. The second domain of aesthetic inquiry pertains to the senses – exploring issues related to bodily experience, sensuality, pleasure, perception, feelings, passions, and emotions. The word ‘aesthetic’ derives from the ancient Greek term aisthētikós (meaning ‘perceptive, sensitive, pertaining to sensory perception’) which in turn derives from aisthánomai (meaning ‘I perceive, sense, learn’). Accordingly, this second field of aesthetic inquiry addresses matters that extend beyond what would conventionally be called ‘art objects’ or ‘perceptions of beauty’ and engages questions related to sensuous human experience in its manifold dimensions. Being in the presence of great art is an aesthetic experience, but so is plunging into the ocean or sauntering through a rainforest.
Instructions for Instructions
In the first paragraph of The Book Jacob said specifically that his book is not an instruction book, it's an instruction manual for how to write your own instruction manual. Okay, hold that thought, and read this:
What if the freedom to seek meaning and pleasure through creativity is the mysterious purpose of the universe? What if the outcome of this process is inclined towards beauty, a process through which the universe gets to experience itself through the phenomenon of consciousness? What would a politics of beauty involve?
The thought that falls out into my head is: to speak of "the aesthetic of ERE" is a broken idea: instead, ERE can be seen as a praxis for how to achieve the personal economy - the politics of the individual - to achieve the freedom to seek meaning and pleasure through creativity - the mysterious purpose of the universe. It's the instruction manual for how to write your own instruction manual to create and experience beauty (of the form that Alexander is talking about here).

What would a politics of beauty involve? >Great heaping gobs of creative freedom for individuals, just to start with, obviously. Oh hey look, Alexander thinks so as well:
Whereas utilitarianism aims to maximise happiness and liberalism aims to promote freedom, a political economy of art would seek to foster creative engagements with questions of meaning and beauty in ecologically sustainable ways. Such engagements might depend on freedom, and are likely to advance human happiness, but ultimately the Will to Art aims to foster something more fundamental and substantive: beauty.
And then, skipping some stuff, but there is a connection that Alexander makes between the personal and the political - the personal praxis as political act:
It follows that ethical and political activity today may require us to engage the self by the self for the purpose of refusing who we are – insofar as we are uncritical consumers – and creating new, post-consumerist forms of subjectivity.

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I believe that this also intersects nicely with the theme of the book jennypenny recently recommended on other thread, "Tiny Experiments: How to Live Freely in a Goal Obsessed World", Anne-Laure Le Cunff, and also "Life in Three Dimensions: How Curiosity, Exploration, and Experience Make a Fuller, Better Life" , Shigehiro Oishi. The common thread perhaps being the dawning recognition that at Level Yellow, simple happiness, and also linear achievement towards purpose, and also linear narrative towards meaning are not adequate to the complexity faced. Both of these books are towards placing "curiosity" at or near the same juncture where Alexander is placing "art" or "creativity."
Psychological richness is different from happiness and meaning in the sense that is is not about an overall feeling of where life is going or what the point of your life is, but about an experience, or more precisely the accumulation of experiences over time.
In the same way that material richness can be quantified by money-the more money you have, the richer you are materially-psychological richness can be quantified by experiences. The more interesting experiences and stories you have, the more psychologically rich you are. Just as you can accumulate wealth and become materially rich, you can accumulate experiences and become psychologically rich. If happiness is like the batting average that changes with every game, psychological richness is more like the total number of career home runs: it adds up.
-"Life in Three Dimensions"- Oishi


If I think about art, one important related concept that come to mind would be " a room of one's own" and this can be related to the concept of personal finance, as in the words of Virginia Woolf:
A woman must have money and a room of her own if she is to write fiction.
and also,
Therefore I would ask you to write all kinds of books, hesitating at no subject however trivial or however vast. By hook or by crook, I hope that you will possess yourselves of money enough to travel and to idle, to contemplate the future or the past of the world, to dream over books and loiter at street corners and let the line of thought dip deep into the stream.
Experiments with lifestyle are also a form of art. The example most relevant to "ERE" might be the American Transcendentalists, centered around Ralph Waldo Emerson, with their experiments in simple living, feminism, spirituality, alternative education, alternative farming, and art. My father's father's family were Unitarians and also the original European settlers of the woods where Thoreau did his walking, so I sometimes wonder whether the portion of my frugality I learned from my frugal father was from this line of philosophy*. One form of artistic expression my DD33 engages in is singing with the choir of a Unitarian Universalist congregation in a Level Green/Yellow university community.

*I am also related to pioneer girl author Laura Ingalls Wilder through this line.

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In order to convince Michael Jordan not to retire, Phil Jackson didn't say to him you are better than Kareem Abdul Jabbar, he said "you are Michelangelo." I think we know art when we see it and it doesn't have to be hanging in a museum. Warren Buffet refers to his portfolio as a canvass. After listening to a concert performed by his son, he exuberantly said "We do the same thing." It's more aspirational than anything else, and you can find it in any occupation and lifestyle when it's being assiduously pursued. I really wanted to throw in an f-bomb here but it just didn't present itself.

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Very interesting group are the unitarians, they were small but very influential in the 19th century, especially in Birmingham. Their metaphysics are closer to Islam tham mainstream Christianity. Beatrix Potter was one.

Not to be confused with unitarian universalists of course which are something entirely different.

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Unitarians tossed out the creator/creature distinction of Christianity, so I would say their metaphysics are more in line with pantheists. I think Islam and Christianity have the same metaphysics, a radical separation of deity and humanity. I think what is different is their epistemology - how much knowledge humanity can have of the deity. The radical wing of Islam has fallen into militant voluntarism. You cannot the mind of God, only his will.

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@chenda:

I find the Unitarians and the Unitarian Universalists and Islam to be alike in terms of their focus on nature and literature or the written word. Maybe mostly differing in terms of levels of abstraction? I mean the sort of human most likely to say something like "Nature is my cathedral." is most likely to be found at a Unitarian Universalist gathering on some Sunday he is not in the woods. Also, a Unitarian Universalist gathering is by far most likely venue in which you might hear a "sermon" based on an essay by Emerson or Thoreau and/or also something from the Quran. And the complexity of nature is frequently offered as evidence of the existence of God in the Quran. Also, Mohammed, Emerson, and some not insignificant proportion of 21st century Unitarian Universalists in the U.S. believe in and/or practiced polyamory.

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