ERE Experiment - Vagabonding On A Shoestring Budget

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Tue Aug 06, 2019 7:32 pm

@c_L, thanks! Based on my 4 hour meeting with leadership and my team, we are safe through the end of August, after which a reduction in force is taking place within our organization. There is no guarantee it will include me, though odds are high.

@anesde & Bankai, both bring up great points. I will not be acting on any dips in the market while I'm gone. And unfortunately, @jacob, whilst I'm not in the "nobody can predict the market", I'm squarely in the "2B1S can't predict the market" camp. And even if I thought I could, I wouldn't be too sure on what to do right now. Other than aiming for a lower WR% and keeping options open for interesting seasonal or PT employment between trips (a la ERE without the bankroll lifestyle), I'm not sure how to best position my investments for the future. I'm in your camp when it comes to "I hate losing" more than I like winning. At this point I would like to just preserve my purchasing power from investments, with some nominal games. I would take the safer route and slowly add to my positions to improve spending power, vs. gambling it away at the hopes of doubling up (inflation adjusted) in the next decade.

Right now I'm sitting at 3.56% WR based on actual TTM spending, and 2.9% based on non-discretionary TTM spending (still with a lil fat to trim). So on an individual level I feel pretty comfortable. A PT/Seasonal JOB every other year earning even 50% of my spending for the year, would provide peace of mind that I can still earn money when I want to, and improve the statistics around my plan drastically. Furthermore, at my age (32), if shit starts to go downhill in the first 5-10 years, we can always pivot to earn more money or change our plans.

I did do some modeling, and based on my current CD ladder, I could literally fund my vagabonding lifestyle for ~6 years non stop, or 8 years with a few short stints to earn seasonal income. That would give the investments time to do their thing, and enjoy life in the "middle game" as BSOG would put it.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Aug 07, 2019 4:16 pm

is it like you travelled from PL to USA in your youth (that's spendy) and in this way you somehow developed relationship to the firs country?

you're multimillionaires by "our" standard.
you also said on MMM that you have or gonna get house here.

that's like winning on the lottery (after workin for it for the last 25 yrs :lol:)
(yes, I know different people have different standards of being rich)

and in better shape than most rich here, because at the end of day you have accessible digits on your bank/trading acc. in comparison to most "rich" who owns semisellable stocks(=items) from their companies, cars, houses etc.

I don't know. Stay in workforce just to have money for your gf.

anyway, good luck.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:01 am

Hi Stahlmann, it was more than just travel in my youth. I lived there from end of May till early September (3.5 months) every year from age 3 till 15, and then from end of June till early September (2.5 months) from 16-18. Have a lot of family and friends there, who I maintain good relations with over distance for now. If you look at ones youth, aside from school, free time was limited to weekends and summers. I spent the majority of my free time throughout the year in Poland, and feel like my grandparents raised me more so than my parents. I've also felt more like a Pole than an American in my roots, despite being born in NYC. Heck, I didn't learn English till grade school.

We sure are multimillionaires, in Polish currency, at current exchange rate. @Bankai was kind enough to run the analysis for me a few pages back in my journal here. Average net monthly individual salary is ~$900-1000 USD in the region of Poland my family lives. For two people let's assume $1.8-2k USD per month. To safely draw that from investments using 3% WR we would need ~$720-800k in assets. Getting closer, but not quite there yet. That's not to say two person household needs 6-7k PLN a month to live, but it's certainly not extravagant. As you pointed out, cheap credit means that inflation is rampant compared to much of the EU and developed world. Poland could easily normalize to Western Europe in the next 5-10 years, so arbitrage opportunities are more so near term.

I'm not sure where you live exactly, but private wealth in Poland is growing very rapidly, and there is much more wealth visible than even 5 years ago. Standard of living is way up, and many international companies are expanding operations to Poland. My main choice of staying in workforce is because logistically it makes most sense for us to embark on adventure trip in early April, and sitting around unemployed during the winter months here would be boring. My employer could very well change this decision for me in next few weeks ;)

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:12 pm

Today I woke up to my alarm at 6:30 AM, only to see a group text message from my new boss asking everyone on the team to be in the NYC office.

Quick shower, packed my bag, and out the door I went. Two hours later and I'm finally at the office. Curious what the reason was behind us all coming in, turns out his bosses boss is in town, and he wants to look good by having the whole team here. I get to spend $40 on my train commute and 4 hours of the day for this shit.

Now I've been here 5 hours and the time is standing still. It's good to be able to fuck around on the internet, but mostly my mind is wandering to "what if" scenarios on getting fired.

I can't seem to nut up and just quit, would be much easier if they made the choice for me. September is a long time to wait to find out if I will get the ax. Trying to determine if it's possible to do anything (or not do, hehe), that could sway the decision in my favor, without getting terminated for cause (no unemployment insurance if terminated for cause).

Also, I wonder about health insurance situation whilst traveling the USA in van. It looks like most insurance on the ACA and even Medicaid require you to apply for whichever state you live, and do not cover you out of state unless it's a hospital emergency. Bankruptcy due to lapse/lack of health insurance is a big fear.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by classical_Liberal » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:00 pm

2Birds1Stone wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:12 pm
Also, I wonder about health insurance situation whilst traveling the USA in van. It looks like most insurance on the ACA and even Medicaid require you to apply for whichever state you live, and do not cover you out of state unless it's a hospital emergency. Bankruptcy due to lapse/lack of health insurance is a big fear.
Even in an emergency there is balance billing in most states. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/blog/2 ... ce-billing

This effectively renders an ACA plan worthless to full time travelers. The best you can do is get one with a very wide network and hope for the best. Another, IMO better, option is a health share. They are private pay so have no network. Usually religiously based, so they will not cover "sin" related illnesses, nor anything preventative or preexisting. But they have a really good track record for covering emergency type situations or new diagnosis which require immediate intervention, if you meet their guidelines for membership. You can buy into one of these for $50-$75mo on the low end for higher ($5000) "deductibles".

But put this in perspective. You are 33 and healthy, outside of an accident, the odds of you getting an extremely expensive to treat illness are very, very low. Even then, most do not require emergency, do it now, interventions. So planned medical tourism is an option as well.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:49 pm

Interesting. Eh, my family has a lot of medical issues. There aren't many things that could wipe us out, medical issue without insurance and law suit are two of them.

Fun chart, even after the drop today. Currently sitting @52.27% equities.

One Player Mode @ 4% WR
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Unfortunately a 4% WR is pretty useless long term. I need to redo this chart using a 3% perpetual WR.

ETA, I actually re-did the chart with 3% WR......looks like I have something to strive for.

Luckily (or unluckily) for me, reducing spending will be easier than increasing NW by 33%.

One Player Mode @ 3%
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Re: 65 Days To ERE - Backpacking, Thru-Hiking, Van-Living & Shenanigans!

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 pm

CS wrote:
Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:54 am
My experience has been that the most terrifying part is right before leaving a permanent job. And then you (the proverbial you) don't work for a few weeks... and the world doesn't explode... and you're not on the streets dying of hunger.
I was re-reading this evening and wanted to thank you for this nugget of wisdom.

ETA : Plan now (and hold me accountable!)

Depart work when any of these conditions are met;

1) Get fired
2) Get laid off
3) 3% WR crosses the trailing twelve month spending level
4) March 31, 2020
5) Work becomes unbearable (the juice ain't worth the squeeze)

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by Jin+Guice » Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:48 pm

Just dropping by to offer my usual words of encouragement that you can and should quit. I see you keep finding excuses to kick the can down the road. No problem, as long as it isn't stopping you from doing what you really want to be doing. I also want to remind you that, currently, you have enough money almost certainly never run out. You are working to decrease those odds ever so slightly.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by CS » Wed Aug 14, 2019 8:12 am

You're welcome. :)

Personally, I have always quit under condition 5 but I don't think I have much of a tolerance for being constrained in a job. And usually it was because they were getting in the way of something else I wanted to do, but not always. Sometimes it was just too much.

The person who always supported me when I was freaking out about taking the leap (multiple times) has been my mom. She's told me that every time she moved on a better thing came along. Her exact words - "don't worry about it."

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:41 pm

Jin+Guice wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 10:48 pm
Just dropping by to offer my usual words of encouragement that you can and should quit.
You know, I've actually typed up a resignation letter and chickened out a few times.

I'm working on bringing my spending down to a more spartan level, lower than it's ever been in my adult life. So maybe we can trigger #3 sooner than later, though this whole recession thing might put a damper on that.

#1 and #2 are very likely in Sept/Oct, especially since I'm playing Office Space on repeat.

#4 seems far off, but it really isn't, especially when you consider the things that need to happen between now and then to make a clean brake for 12 months of travel abroad.

#5 is an interesting one, and here is where I keep kicking the can down the road, although per my PM this morning, it's not all that bad right now :)

Musings

It feels good to slowly get back to some outdoor training. Got back on the MTB on Saturday for a 2 hour trail ride, and ran a few 5k's over the past week. Weight has stabilized around 205 lbs. Gym has been consistent.

After dealing with some car issues, I've lowered my insurance to liability only. Seeing that the car is worth <$10k now, I don't think collision/comprehensive is worth it, especially with how little driving I'm doing lately.

Finished rereading Vagabonding this evening, dropped it back off at the library via electric skateboard. Fun

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by slowtraveler » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:51 pm

It seems inevitable now, you'll quit as the circumstances line up. Just you're ready now and awaiting the perfect context. You're spending will likely trend down now with the intention. Nothing to really worry about.

Can I ask, what style of workout do you do? It's probably changed over time as you've increased your strength.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:50 pm

Hi, st. It's definitely inevitable, though I'm not sure the context matters that much at this point. My job just tends to ebb and flow, and right now I'm riding a high. What goes up, must come down, and should make the decision (if it's ultimately mine) that much easier.

I'm going to experiment with <$1200/month, which may sound like a lot to some people here, but for me it would be a stretch. Only until we leave for our trip, no point in tightening the purse strings so much during a planned adventure like ours. At that point will still be sticking to the original semi-ERE plan rules I laid out for myself, keep total spending <4% WR, and draw from investments <3% WR, creatively closing the gap.

Since the beginning of time 90% of my training has been based around a simple push, pull, legs workout. I rotate those three days, and train 3-5 days a week. The focus on each day is heavy free-weight compound lifts, with some accessory work added in as time permits. I tend to spend 45-60 minutes in the gym per session. Push - barbell press, crossovers/flies, dips, side lateral raises, + 1 tricep exercise, Pull - Deadlift, pullup, rows cable/barbell, and 1-2 bicep exercises, Legs - squats, leg ext/curl, +1 calf exercise. For the compound stuff, I do 3-4 working sets of 5-8 reps, and 2-3 sets of 8-12 reps on the accessory stuff.

I've dabbled with other programs, Bill Starr 5x5, Mad Cow 5x5, Smolov Russian squat program, Smolov Jr bench program, and a custom powerbuilding program under the guidance of a coach.

I know I've mentioned it here in the past, but I experimented with a lot of different training styles, periodizations, all while manipulating nutrition to get the best results. Both for myself, and over a 100 clients from 2011-2014. It's definitely something I would consider getting back into when I am no longer working FT. Though the market is absolutely saturated with online coaches today, and everyone is a "guru".

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:53 am

Musings - Mid Month Update

Howdy y'all. Thinking out loud, and maybe sharing too many details here :)

The past few days has been good living. Training consistently at the gym, for 10 sessions so far this month. Did my first bicycle ride on my triathlon bike, Sunday morning, hit 40 miles @ ~16.7 mph pace. Still running sparingly, but enjoying it when I do. I've increased my caloric intake which has resulted in an almost immediate 3-4 lb gain.

Have been enjoying the eSkateboard quite a bit, using it for errands or simple pleasure of getting around the neighborhood as an alternative to bicycle. Yesterday I made my way to the library, proceeded to work there for 4 hours, and rode back home. I did check out the ERE book for the 4th time, and reread the first two chapters.

It's quite good, Jacobs breakdown of what needs to happen to make change. Yet again, the book feels different on another re-read. Partially because I've been creeping up Wheaton levels, and much of the low hanging fruit has been picked. The discomfort with current situation is not so great that I have been sufficiently motivated to jump off the cliff, yet vision of the future is very clear and alluring. One point that spoke to me this time around, was around the perceived cost of making said change. So building on this post from last week;
2Birds1Stone wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:39 pm
ETA : Plan now (and hold me accountable!)

Depart work when any of these conditions are met;

1) Get fired
2) Get laid off
3) 3% WR crosses the trailing twelve month spending level
4) March 31, 2020
5) Work becomes unbearable (the juice ain't worth the squeeze)


Some thoughts on these around perceived cost,

1 & 2, if they were to happen now, would be giving up 15 paychecks totaling ~$59,400 of net income. Every few weeks the monetary cost is lowered.

3 would demonstrate my practical ability to live on <3% WR, thus dampening the blow from giving up guaranteed high income, and maybe giving the courage to turn that spigot off.

4 has a time/opportunity cost, as in trading the potential to travel to SE Asia this winter for an added layer of security. An extra $59.4k in income would mean saving/investing an additional 1.5+ years of combined expenses in 7 months. This brings me to J+G's journal and recent conversation there around working now vs. in the future. Right now earning $59.4k in 7 months (~900 hrs) could replace the need for 5,000+ hours of future part time work!

5 would satisfy Jacobs statement on making the current situation feel bad enough to force change. Which throws everything else out the window.

Based on this, and current level of comfort, don't think quitting immediately makes sense. I will even go as far as saying that it might be worth applying the 80/20 rule and milking current situation till it's out of my hands.

Going back to the Plato's Cave analogy. I've been mostly out of the cave for the past 2 years now, dipping back from time to time. Sometimes by choice, others by fear. Life outside of the cave is wonderful, and there is no way I could ever go back there long term. I liken my plans for next year to venturing so far from the cave, that it's likely I lose the entrance for a while. I'm going to take my time with the rest of the book, trying to soak up the wisdom I missed the first few times. And who knows, maybe it will inspire further action and inching toward the next Wheaton level.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by Bankai » Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:13 am

That's close to a quarter-million PLN which is enough to buy a flat in many smaller cities. For 9 months of work. Sounds good to me.

Re immediate mass gain, I'd like that even if it's not all lean. For me, it's like 3 months of 7 meals a day to get 4 lb up.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:32 am

@Bankai, indeed! And if we are in for a recession in the coming months, it would be a huge increase to the cash/fixed income side of my portfolio for future investment opportunities. And it's only 7 more months of work, at the worst. I certainly don't want to leave some easy money on the table, but if it starts to suck, or one of the other conditions are met, it's go time without the extra $$

It certainly wasn't all lean weight -__-

Chapter 3 - Economic Degrees of Freedom

I read this chapter last night and finished this morning. This isn't a new topic for me, and one that I put a lot of thought into, but need to act more on. Jacob posits that we identify with aspects of all four of the categories in the diagram. It's certainly been the case for me, though my most recent history is very much in the salary man corner.

Early on in my career, I was pursuing side hustles and freelancing, where I would have considered myself more of a business man, and a working man, though as a working man, my "contracts" have never been short ones. I lack the specialization to consider myself a true salary man, and it's been two years since I've actually had to regularly sit in an office. I haven't quite taken the work breaks associated with the working man, being too afraid to go without a job (because it looks bad to have gaps in your resume, yo), but not necessarily needed the income immediately between gigs.

The biggest realization and confirmation of what many of you comment in my journal and others, is that without practical application, money alone does not create any slack in the system. Meaning, if I'm too afraid to leverage X years of expenses in portfolio value to actually do something other than maintain current trajectory, it's basically as if that money didn't exist (barring any real emergency that could be solved with money). My coupling to the financial system, specifically my income is almost non existent for basic subsistence. I HAVE over the past few years found creative solutions to problems without going and buying a product or service, so it in that sense I'm dipping my toe in to the Renaissance man quadrant, but I'm acting like a blatant salary man in that I've jumped from one career type job to the next over the past decade, with only two breaks that were longer than a month.

I no longer need to live any semblance of a salary mans lifestyle. If work impedes my lifestyle in any meaningful way, it doesn't make sense to give up my agency and autonomy for a steady paycheck.

I should probably combine Jacobs recommendation of learning skills/finding new activities in the form of hobbies or meaningful part time work, where the primary goal is learning the skill, and the income only a side effect. This would move me toward the working man/Renaissance lifestyle I'm consciously trying to work toward.

Having a good experience running several business in the past, albeit for others, some opportunistic dabbling here can be very beneficial in creating a resilient and diverse life. There will have to be opportunities identified over the coming decades to either start a small but profitable business, or be the matchmaker of ideas and doers for a small fee.

This all ties in with chapters 1 & 2 very nicely, because all of this is fun to think out loud about, but it requires action to mean anything.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 3 - "The Art Of Not Working At Work"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Fri Aug 30, 2019 3:46 pm

Boring money stuff.......

August Financial Update*

Combined Assets
$637,300

Combined Spending
August - $2,524
Trailing Twelve Months - $34,700

Combined Income
$14,700 Net

Savings Rate
82.8%

Current Withdrawal Rate
5.45% (Portfolio = 18.4X annual expenses)

Individually I'm @ $17,630 TTM Spending, 29.8X annual expenses, and a 3.35% WR.

Musings

Despite the markets being down for August, spending was way down YoY, and income was up thanks to a commission check for last quarter (yay). This resulted in one of our highest combined savings rates ever.

My cash buffer is down from $33k last month, to $19k this month due to opening another 2 year CD. I don't want to go below $18k, in case this was my last paycheck.

Speaking of last paycheck, August was when Sr. management indicated the workforce was "safe" until, hinting that they will be trimming the fat in Sept. Not much for me to do at this point but wait and see how things feel, and make a decision based on that.

Not proud of my activity level this month, thought it was an improvement over June, where due to accident I didn't really run/ride.

20 Miles Ran
83 miles biked (43 MTB, 40 Road)
89 miles walked (WAAAAY down from June)
15 weigh-lifting sessions
2.3 lbs gained

More than half way through the ERE book. Confidence in the strategy is building, but not quite ready to pull the plug yet. Will keep y'all posted on how things unfold in the coming weeks.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 4 - "The Silent Crescendo"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Mon Sep 02, 2019 11:56 am

Musings

"Summer" is "officially" over here in NY. At least for households with kids, or those employed in education.

For us, this is the best part of the year. The weather cools down, the air is dryer, and everything is nice and quiet on weekdays. I tend to pick up the MTB and running as it's better weather for it, and we always end up making more fires in the backyard and enjoying the earlier dusk. I remember working an office job until around this time in 2017, and hating getting home when it was dark. Now that I'm "working" from home, it's fantastic.

We spent this long weekend outdoors as much as possible. Went to a wedding on Saturday, mountain biked both Saturday and this morning, and enjoyed plenty of time in our yard reading. I'm almost done with the ERE book, and thanks to some recommendations on ERE, picked up Micromastry from the library. September will be an experiment in frugality, with a goal of spending less on our discretionary expenses, namely entertainment.

The cat is out of the bag regarding our 12 month trip and refusal to work. We saw a ton of extended family at the wedding, and since we are engaged 2 years, the big question was when/where. We gladly told everyone we were eloping during out 12 month honeymoon, and throwing a party for family and friends when we got back. Mostly met with enthusiasm and a lot of folks sharing that they wish they'd done something similar, or avoided a traditional wedding all together.

I'm refocusing on activity level and health. My weight is still <210, but has been drifting up with wider swings. Gotta build the running mileage back up slowly, and be consistent about MTB 2x per week.

Looking forward to September! Things could get interesting very quickly. We are prepared to give out landlord moments notice that we will be vacating the apartment.

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 4 - "The Silent Crescendo"

Post by classical_Liberal » Tue Sep 03, 2019 12:51 am

Autumn is the best! Congrats on the kind-of, sort-of, halfway wedding plans :D

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 4 - "The Silent Crescendo"

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:02 am

Autumn really is the best! When discussing with SO, what our ideal life would look like......total snowbirds with access to the best weather in the shoulder seasons. As cool as exotic destinations sound on paper, I truly wonder how I will do with the heat and humidity in SE Asia. Guess there's only one way to find out :)

Thank you! It's been in the works for just about two years now. We decided in 2017 that we will forgo a wedding and do a long trip instead, not realizing that it would end up being a 12 month jaunt around the world. Very excited for the future, but really focusing on the here and now. Life is really good on many fronts, and I'm sure we will look back on these times very fondly.

I do believe with the final* reread of the ERE book, I'm mentally and emotionally ready to dive into full blown ERE/Semi-ERE or whatever you want to call it. At this point I'm not sure anyone can define it, other than the practitioner. I've reread many journals here, both those in a similar place to myself, those who pulled the plug several years ago, and those a bit greener to the lifestyle.....and most have confirmed that it's time. There will never be a perfect time, so it's best not to let perfect be the enemy of good.

The biggest sign for me, personally, is that it finally feels like I'm EREing to something, rather than from something. Despite work being tolerable right now, the little voice in my head is saying "2B1S, you're absolutely ready to join the other side".

*there is never a "final", but as it's my 4th time reading, and I won't have access to my library soon, it's close enough

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Re: Semi-ERE Experiment - Month 4 - "The Silent Crescendo"

Post by Bankai » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:21 am

Does it mean you're giving the notice or still stick to 'spring or till they fire me' plan?

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