Re: brute journal
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:07 am
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You may have already developed the abilities; many rationalist do.Riggerjack wrote: ↑Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:54 pmI will be the first to say that mindfulness and meditation makes no sense to me. Each time I hear somebody describe it, I seems I'm completely missing something, or missing everything.
Uh huh. And what are you dissociating your thoughts and feelings from, exactly? And how exactly does that differ from a zombie? I've never been able to really, deeply, become one with the broom while sweeping, mainly because I was just sweeping. Adding more intensity makes it more difficult, without improving the job I'm doing. I just don't understand what the goal is.Essentially, meditation and mindfulness are intended as a set exercises towards disassociating from your thoughts and feelings. Once you start to do this instinctively you can move on to various meta-cognitive techniques which allow you to not only observe your stream of consciousness but to alter your thought patterns. Once you master meta-cognition you can reprogram your mind however you want.
From your identity, beliefs, motivations, and so forth (all the subjective stuff). Some people don't do this automatically.Riggerjack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:11 pmUh huh. And what are you dissociating your thoughts and feelings from, exactly?
Why would you want to become one with the broom? Where did that come from? What does that even mean?Riggerjack wrote: ↑Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:11 pmI've never been able to really, deeply, become one with the broom while sweeping, mainly because I was just sweeping. Adding more intensity makes it more difficult, without improving the job I'm doing. I just don't understand what the goal is.
I think that's the craziest thing I've seen you write on the forums! There's innumerable reasons why one would want to "reprogram" oneself.
how does Riggerjack know what kind of man he wants to be?
Wow. Sorry for the slow response, I had to think about it.how does Riggerjack know what kind of man he wants to be?
sure does.
brute literally can't understand what Jordan Peterson is saying. there are words, but brute does not know what he means by them. it's like listening to a religious art teacher who had too many spiked brownies.classical_Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:33 pm
Jordan Peterson [..and his..] ideas on the archetypal heroes/gods/serpents serving as valuable contributors to overall human psyche as part of a biological, evolutionary process
brute isn't sure if it's "trying to reach the carrot" or "running on the wheel" that fulfills/distracts him, but it sure is fulfilling/distracting.classical_Liberal wrote: ↑Wed Feb 07, 2018 12:33 pmNow that you are employed again, your posts seem to emanate a more fulfilled, or maybe positive tone. I’m curious, do you think this the result of having carrots to chase on your hamster wheel? Obviously you’re fully aware of the fact you’re on the wheel, but it doesn’t seem to be taking away from the enjoyment of running. Put another way, do you think the distraction to trying to reach proverbial carrot, even if unattainable, a better distraction than just running the wheel?
The answer always seemed obvious to me. There is no threshold that makes us greater than the sum of our parts, no inflection point at which we become fully alive. We can't define consciousness because consciousness does not exist. Humans fancy that there's something special about the way we perceive the world, and yet we live in loops, as tight and as closed as the hosts do, seldom questioning our choices, content, for the most part, to be told what to do next.