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I've been getting a hankering for some graphs and charts lately and I'm looking for inspiration.

Please use this thread to share your favourite ERE-related graphs and charts, especially ones you've made yourself.

I'm thinking spending graphs, intricate net worth projections, comparisons of different life paths/strategies, insightful mental models like Jacob has in the book, economic histories/forecasts, YMOYL wall charts, sustainability calculations, stuff like that.

I didn't make this one, but I like this chart illustrating how the cost of light has fallen over time. Really drives home how cheap many of the necessities of life are to acquire for many of us today compared to most people throughout most of history.

(https://www.statista.com/chart/10567/th ... -the-ages/)

Skills:

@AxelHeist where did you take these from?

I made them. They’re scattered in my journal for the most part.

Inspiration for the money vs skills graph goes to @Ego, its basically a copy of one he made I assume.

AxelHeyst wrote: ↑

Sun Dec 12, 2021 1:05 am

Inspiration for the money vs skills graph goes to @Ego, its basically a copy of one he made I assume.

Maybe from here: viewtopic.php?p=99322#p99322
Or maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery

Axel, love the charts. These three nail my experience, as a former high earner:

Is the journey path-dependent?
ERE: Easy Does it Approach
How a Wheaton ERE Level 5 Makes Decisions

Great visualization of the difficulty cliff introduced playing on easy mode. I find myself firmly at the inflection point of your blue lines.

About 5 years ago, I attempted to visualize my cashflow - both current and how it would look in retirement. Very much a WL 4/5 perspective, but the exercise was extremely productive for me. It'd be interesting to redo, now that I'm retired:

viewtopic.php?p=131600#p131600

High level


Detail


I recall @Fish posting some good diagrams over the years. This is the only one I found:

viewtopic.php?p=150188#p150188

jacob wrote: ↑

Mon Dec 13, 2021 8:06 am

Maybe from here: viewtopic.php?p=99322#p99322
Or maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery

Yeah, sorry, should have clarified: the inspiration for the concept came from Jacob’s first link there, which at this point is my internalized one sentence response to “what is ERE?”. The shape of the curve didn’t occur to me until Ego posted his $ vs [clip art of a Swiss Army knife] image.

Here's a Fish chart from viewtopic.php?p=197249#p197249

Nice... this topic really speaks to me. I especially like the Fish chart for how it can map different approaches and the AxelHeyst web of skills for drawing connections.

I really like this kind of things, but I really cannot understand them! Would you like to help me understand?

lillo9546 wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 17, 2023 3:08 pm

Would you like to help me understand?

The only path on this forum is to do a lot of reading. Here's how you could take a chart you like and use the tools available to learn about it:

Click through the links where the charts came from (that can include the up arrow in the yellow box) and read the threads. When you hit terms you don't know, try entering them in the search bar above and then reading those threads.

Also, worth trying as a resource to search through is the wiki:
https://wiki.earlyretirementextreme.com/wiki/Main_Page

I find the forum search more likely to yield a result, but when the wiki page has a result, it is usually comprehensive. One problem with the forum search also is that it doesn't work for terms less than 4 characters, so I'm going to get you started with "WL" means "Wheaton Level."

And here is the wiki entry:
https://wiki.earlyretirementextreme.com ... ton_Levels

And a very useful chart:
https://earlyretirementextreme.com/myfo ... Levels.jpg

Well... you have a lot of reading to do. I would recommend first trying to figure out what WL you are and then starting a journal thread where you build up your ideas and report on your lifestyle experiments. The journal threads to be the place where the feedback is better and people tolerate things being a little looser.

candide wrote: ↑

Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:26 pm

I find the forum search more likely to yield a result, but when the wiki page has a result, it is usually comprehensive. One problem with the forum search also is that it doesn't work for terms less than 4 characters, so I'm going to get you started with "WL" means "Wheaton Level."

Methinks the forum search sucks. The reason it doesn't work for short words is that it's essentially a giant crude data base. If it included three-letter words, it would have an enormous list of posts including the word "the". I prefer to search the forum using google, e.g. "site:forum.earlyretirementextreme.com WL" w/o the "".

Some draft figures for my book project:

Before I was married, tracking 3% WR vs. Trailing Twelve Months of spending was a big financial measuring stick for path to FI....still update this even though it's irrelevant as a two person household.

Almost 9 years of data here......

Here is a very similar chart showing ~6 years of data tracking as a couple.....includes both 3% and 4% WR vs. TTM Spending



Conclusion....money is a mostly solved problem for us, onward and upward.

These are some diagrams from a never-finished project. I almost posted them in the ERE2 thread (maybe I should have?). Obviously proprietary.


inner strengths



simplified inner diagram in color



inner strengths and outer considerations