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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:16 am

My Ti-Fe is fairly dominate over Fi-Te, but my Ne-Si is more comparable to Se-Ni. Its like I am 70% INTP 30% ISTP or something. I sort of prefer to use Ne-Si in my alone-time and Se-Ni when I have to work with people. It depends on who I am with, though. If I am comfortable enough around someone then my Ne is more apparent.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:36 am

Yeah, I do think Chuck McGill is an ISTJ. His Si is everywhere. The whole EM radiation sensitivity thing is his Te over-fitting Si comfort data with the presence of EM radiation.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:21 pm

@daylen:

You may also wish to give Jorge Luis Borges and Nabokov a whirl on the fiction front; moving from mythology towards symbolism and playful approach to language. Also, Dickens might not be entirely to your taste, but he is pretty much the renowned master of characterization ("evil" genius of recognizable "type" creation.)
ENTP ~ Ne-Ti ~ debater, explorer, inventor ~ lawyer ~ argues for fun on a topic they know little about ~ usually takes a while for them to decide what is important in life
Some thoughts...ENTP's do debate for fun (not for the thrill of the "win"), but I would suggest also for a purpose. Let's say I was alone in my cabin in the woods and while there I read 10 new books. As I was reading, I would constantly be creating little lines of attachment from new book to old book or prior experience. By the time I had finished reading 10 books uninterrupted, all these flimsy lines of attachment would be like a tangle of threads with a lightly-gummed post-it note on either end. I would then feel compelled to either engage in debate with another intelligent human or, perhaps, argue with myself by writing in a journal, in order to strengthen some of the connections and toss aside some others. Realistically, it would be highly unlikely that I would make it through 10 books of any merit or significant density without having to stop to "process."

IOW, I think ENTPs have to access Ti through verbal center. This occurred to me, because I am currently studying for a standardized math exam and found myself unconsciously speaking aloud engaged in rather rude argumentative dialogue with myself as I hurried through a problem set simultaneous to scrubbing rust from my brain cogs. As in, "No, you Dummy, the problem read Inverse not Identity!"

Also, choosing to argue on topics about which we know little is kind of an ENTP semi-conscious trick. It's almost akin to intellectual flirting*. Kind of analogous to imagining the silent master of some realm being a big fish and some brand new concept or bit of vocabulary is bait that an eternally precocious ENTP attaches to a hook in search of short-cut to learning more. That's why we are actually happier when we lose big time in a debate than when we score a small win. Like it's better to be able to hook a big fish for just a minute than to catch a whole bunch of minnows in a paper cup.

*And, therefore, behavior subject to being misunderstood by those who also are immune or tone deaf to any other sort of harmless flirting.

ETA:

OTOH, maybe because I am an eNTP or maybe because I was educated during an era when Values Clarification Exercises were promoted over Proper Use Of Punctuation, I don't believe it took me a long time to figure out what is important in life. My Ideal Lifestyle is The Adventure Cottage Library or, maybe more accurately, if I put Ne , Ti, and Fe/Si in proper order, The Adventure Library Cottage. So, for instance, when I was running my book business in partnership with my Bohemian INFP sister, our partnership mission statement was something like "Make enough money working only part-time to allow for all our other interests while saving homeless books from the dumpster."

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by horsewoman » Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:54 pm

7Wannabe5 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:21 pm
IOW, I think ENTPs have to access Ti through verbal center...
I need to work verbally though problems to get solutions. My best ideas come to me while talking about/arguing about something.
It may seem on the surface that I don't know much about a topic, but while I'm talking my mind/subconsciousness makes the most surprising connections. It is often surprising to myself and I wonder when I have absorbed certain facts. It often feels that my mouth is actually faster than my brain :)
Talking to myself does not work so well as talking to another person, and I cannot keep a journal alive - ironically my ERE journal is the first I kept going longer than 3 days. Probably because there is a chance of someone answering...

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by horsewoman » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 pm

7Wannabe5 wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:21 pm
OTOH, maybe because I am an eNTP or maybe because I was educated during an era when Values Clarification Exercises were promoted over Proper Use Of Punctuation, I don't believe it took me a long time to figure out what is important in life. My Ideal Lifestyle is The Adventure Cottage Library or, maybe more accurately, if I put Ne , Ti, and Fe/Si in proper order, The Adventure Library Cottage. So, for instance, when I was running my book business in partnership with my Bohemian INFP sister, our partnership mission statement was something like "Make enough money working only part-time to allow for all our other interests while saving homeless books from the dumpster."
For me, what is "important in life" is not a fixed thing, so to a person on the outside it would probably look like it took me a while to figure it out (like 3 different apprenticeships, and only one finished with a degree). But I'm using the skills I gained in the "failed apprenticeships" every day - it was time well spent but ultimately not important enough to spend three years, or worse, my whole life on it. So I suppose it is the other way around, maybe we know very quickly what it is important right now and have the gumption to try/end things until we have a great stack of skills (for us). I guess eNTPs make great scanner personalities and lousy specialists. So many interesting things to learn and so little time!


I think it is kinda funny that no one besides daylen, 7wb5 and me seems to be very interested in this topic :)
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by jacob » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:49 pm

@horsewoman - We are interested. We're just waiting for the pragmatic application stage before we enter your rich and very interesting Ne&Ti sandbox :mrgreen:
daylen wrote:
Wed Oct 30, 2019 4:00 am
Personality ~ patterns of behavior ~ models of entire agents
INTP ~ Ti-Ne ~ logician, theorist, designer ~ linguist ~ reads/writes encyclopedias for fun ~ can have slow response time to sudden, unexpected changes in environment
ENTP ~ Ne-Ti ~ debater, explorer, inventor ~ lawyer ~ argues for fun on a topic they know little about ~ usually takes a while for them to decide what is important in life
Questions I'm interested in:
1) Does personality exist in a vacuum? Like if you're the last person in the universe (alternative on a solo space mission), does your personality stack still persist/exist?

2) To which degree are stack preferences rearranged by interactions with other personality stacks. There is, for example, the idea that some personality types make better partners for a given type than others, e.g. INTJ to ENFP. Some humans are also known as being better at dealing with introverts than others. Why is that?

Add: @daylen - I think your ENTP tagline is a bit harsh. To me and my bias, ENTPs are the "kings and queens of random [projects]". They might not submit their ideas to double or triple check contingency purgatory like an INTJ or ditto for internal consistency like an INTP, but to be fair, they do get things done in the real world whereas the INT* contingent mostly gets things done on paper. I also don't find ENTPs argumentative ... more like "adds random insights to random topics, but otherwise busy making stuff in the real world".

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:24 pm

horsewoman wrote:Talking to myself does not work so well as talking to another person, and I cannot keep a journal alive - ironically my ERE journal is the first I kept going longer than 3 days. Probably because there is a chance of someone answering...
lol- That's why I indicated "perhaps" just journaling. Since I am so borderline I/E, one of my mental exercises is to imagine myself in well-stocked solo cabin and theorize on which "urge" would first drive me out to seek companionship. I am not as much of a "doer" as other Inventors, but if/when I am reading more in the realm of non-fiction towards how-to, I will also often be driven outside of my "library" by drive to make new concept tangible. For instance, the time I became obsessed with creating a sunken garden in my backyard. However, I don't need or even want other humans when I am in concept -> tangible mode unless strictly necessary to undertaking. Although, I will often desire an audience for the unveiling/performance/demonstration/ Ta Da! phase.
So I suppose it is the other way around, maybe we know very quickly what it is important right now and have the gumption to try/end things until we have a great stack of skills (for us).
Agree. I was also thinking that having ever changing interests in the moment is not equivalent to having a shaky values system. A whole lot of everything can fit into The Adventure Library Cottage, but there are also some things for which there clearly is not room provided. For instance, conventional status symbols, adult-size safety seats, and VHS tapes of "Walker Texas Ranger" come to mind.

jacob wrote:1) Does personality exist in a vacuum? Like if you're the last person in the universe (alternative on a solo space mission), does your personality stack still persist/exist?
I think first question would be "Does sanity persist in a vacuum?" Difference between low input and no input is not insignificant. That said, I think the order of stack is inherent, but activation is fluid, and will likely become more fluid when need arises. For instance, I am never the person who locks the doors at night unless I am the only adult on premises, because Se is at the bottom of my stack, but when I am the only adult on premises, I do lock the doors at night.

Another situation that will possibly bring out lower stack functions is being forced into leadership role in a social situation. For example, the episodes when The Professor (INTJ or INTP?) ends up in the lead rather than The Captain (ESXJ ?) OTOH, it is difficult to imagine episode where Gilligan (ESFP?) takes the lead except maybe in relationship to a lost puppy.
2) To which degree are stack preferences rearranged by interactions with other personality stacks. There is, for example, the idea that some personality types make better partners for a given type than others, e.g. INTJ to ENFP. Some humans are also known as being better at dealing with introverts than others. Why is that?
As I indicated above, I don't think innate preferences are rearranged*, but I do think different functions are more likely to be activated/exercised in varying environments inclusive of social/relationship context. I can't speak for general population, but I think that I am pretty good at dealing with introverts because my younger sister who is very close to me in age is and always has been a fairly extreme introvert. Huge grain of salt, and varies great deal with overall level of functioning and other attractive features, and likely in good part due to cultural gender training, but from my perspective I-Ps are the easiest people to share house-space with, but E-Js are the easiest people to date.



*My belief that these preferences are innate is based primarily on having interacted with a great many people from earliest childhood to adulthood at this point in my life. Some stack preferences resemble natural developmental phases, so, for instance, all two year olds tend towards defiant, but those who are also innately "stacked" towards defiant will really cause some parental hair-pulling.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:18 pm

About taglines in first post.. those are more like ways to identify types in the wild with minimal type one error. That is, if you see that behavior in some random person then the probability that they are the corresponding type listed goes way up. So, not all ENTP's debate, but if you round up the high school debate team champions then chances are there is a higher incidence rate of ENTP's. I definitely didn't mean it negatively. I think that many young ENTP's in particular will put up a verbal fight far beyond what their opponents are willing without second thought (hence in some sense for fun). It is like basketball practice to an Se-dom. As 7w5 mentioned, loosing is even more exciting because that increases the chances of learning which is especially tactile during the early stages of entering a field. INTP's see the potential for executing this tactic but rarely do because it is much less energy intensive for them to simulate it (but by the time they have considered a few angles the topic has moved on so they never get the chance).

Same for the finding importance part. By this I just meant that if you ask a bunch of types what they value on the street, then most people can give a one to four sentence summary. For a significant number of ENTP's this is a difficult question that preferably requires at least a page spoken/written on it. My intuition could be a bit off because I am mostly just writing off the top of my head.
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sun Nov 03, 2019 10:59 pm

jacob wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:49 pm

1) Does personality exist in a vacuum? Like if you're the last person in the universe (alternative on a solo space mission), does your personality stack still persist/exist?

2) To which degree are stack preferences rearranged by interactions with other personality stacks. There is, for example, the idea that some personality types make better partners for a given type than others, e.g. INTJ to ENFP. Some humans are also known as being better at dealing with introverts than others. Why is that?
1. I would say that personality exist in proportion to the degree of agency. An individual agency has different measures (OOC and Wheaton scales for instance) and there can be many agents. Agents can be nested, so the agency of a company has many sub-agent workers. Agents consider alternatives using something like the Hegelian operator (or perhaps something more complex). Now, this is a wide open problem and narrowing it to something resembling a single interpretation requires something like statistical mechanics where some measure of entropy is used to distinguish bodies that can be assumed units and an instrumental process to see it through. We are still in the process of developing the ability to perform such an analysis on the human brain that can recognize [at a different level than organisms] how circuits tend to be coupled together and exclusive to other such circuits.

The short answer is perhaps, but it probably would not persistent until a higher order of agency emerged with complex distinctions and nestlings (unless that person itself is very complex and internally compartmentalized). A more complex answer involves chaos theory and the stability of networks in fields (union of discrete and continuous mathematics).

2. It depends on what level of agency we are dealing with. Let's assume we are working in the domain of humans :D. An important distinction to make here is preference versus ability. Ability requires some measurement that works for all agents being considered. Preference requires a common language where any single agent can be trained to distinguish types and select their own type.

It requires a bit of both, because no single agent has an authority on measurement and not all agents interpret language the same way. This is where cross-validation can come in to provide some checks and balances (making it more like 'science').

Anyway, back to the question, I think that the first two functions are very close to 100% biologically determined and that these restrict the rest of the functions (modeled with Hebb's rule and feedback processes). It is like there is a ball at the top of a hill at conception that can roll 16 ways and small differences in the ball (and perhaps the environment but how can we know?) cause it to roll one way with little chance of hitting a rock that causes it to move somewhere else (sensitive to initial conditions). Of course, I do not claim it impossible, but for practical purposes people are mainly one type and each type has a unique developmental path.

Some energy can be expended to learn how to imitate other functions, but at the end of the day this is all being channeled and colored by the dominate functions. INTJ's can excell at Te'ing their ability to Fe, but this is a heavily constrained process. If an agent was split down the middle on everything then they would not have the agency to do one thing over another and the whole system breaks down.

With respect to relationships, one theory is that types with similar structure but opposing expression (INTP and ENTJ) enable each other to stay the same more than types with opposing structure and similar expression (INTP and ESFJ). Since, the former allows for bi-specialization; the latter forces one or both to pick up the slack elsewhere (unless the right social-support infrastructure is in place).

The question of introverts has many different nuances to it, one way to look at it is with interaction styles. Chart-the-course and behind-the-scenes types do not equate no feedback with negative feedback and introverts are less likely to give feedback.

I may give a more detailed answers to the above tomorrow night, but I work tonight. Excellent questions! Feel free to ask more.
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:33 pm

I also agree with what 7w5 said about context. I will tell a little about my own story later (acting ISTP-ish to fit in). Basically, the brain has an extrordinary ability to compartmentalize (until it doesn't).

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Mon Nov 04, 2019 4:33 am

It may be better if I make a new post with low type one error observations and re-write some of the first post with more general overview characteristics that are vague enough to apply across the agency spectrum. The use of a large repository of such observations is mostly how I type anyway given how much information needs to be filtered. A few rare yet powerful observations are easier to keep track of than many common observations that could be applied to several types. This will serve to further bootstrap the process of translating whatever is in my mind into a coherent, written procedure that anyone can use.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:13 am

I cannot really say much on this topic without controversy, but when I say biology I mean low-level phenotype and genotype (it becomes environment, culture, or personality when an agent can distinguish it at such). So, twins separated at birth may be raised in a different culture, but the sensitivity of how the genotype gives emergence to low-level structural differences is not accounted for. One area where this may be especially relevant is the development of the nervous system where even small differences in timing could lead to drastic differences in macro or meso structure which could have a drastic influence on personality.

In relation to the stages I outlined in the other thread: in phase two or somewhere near the transition from Kegan2 to Kegan3 an agent is most susceptible to outside influence (e.g. religious, corporate, cult-like, etc.) hence they could potentially expend a lot of energy appearing to have a different personality. Stage 3 (late Kegan3 or Kegan4) is an almost universally agreed upon perception of "taking the path of least resistance" or "learning more about the self" where the agent will not fight their predetermined personality unless it makes sense with respect to cost-benefit analysis (to the extent that agents can be rational).

Also, I would like to clarify that the degree of agency increases with how much all the functions are used in the aggregate, but this does not mean that any single function increases in use. Generally, there is a trend towards the utilization of all functions and this comes along with more deliberation and practice.
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Mon Nov 04, 2019 9:29 am

Another caveat I want to cover is neuroplasticity. In phase one primarily [and beyond], there is an argument to be made that agents can re-learn and adapt to novel environments. This is true in a very profound sense, and this is compatible with everything I have been saying. The micro structure of the brain can be re-associated, but the meso and macro structure are more biologically determined and stable throughout the lifespan of an organism. When a kid learns a new skill they are filling in cortical columns [with micro associations] in a way that allows their collective coordination. As new skills are learned this previously built structure can be re-utilized as piece of the puzzle. Skills can build on skills on skills .... this is plasticity, but the evolution is still path-dependent all the way back to how the genotype developed into a functional organism. You cannot escape your past completely.

A corollary to this is the meso structure only needs to be kick-started for a lifetime of use. Learning a language early in life is a necessity for later activity, since this executes the initial boot required to build the maps that can be transformed later. Generally, what is taught to young kids (Kegan2) is not as important as stimulating them in the first place.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Mon Nov 04, 2019 3:43 pm

I wanted to note that I wasn't at all offended by ENTP description. I was just attempting to explicate inner mechanics/motivations because might be helpful towards model.
daylen wrote:So, twins separated at birth may be raised in a different culture, but the sensitivity of how the genotype gives emergence to low-level structural differences is not accounted for. One area where this may be especially relevant is the development of the nervous system where even small differences in timing could lead to drastic differences in macro or meso structure which could have a drastic influence on personality.
My sister was married to one of a set of mirror-image identical twins who were born in separate sacs. He was left-handed and his brother was right-handed. They were both extremely talented musicians and tending towards introverted, but they also suffered from bi-polar disorder and my sister's husband was more manic and his right-handed twin was more depressive. You could sense this just looking at them, because it had the effect of making one look "sharp" and the other more "soft." Since they were both very identically good-looking men, I think it was sort of a tell of your own personality if you could declare a preference for one over the other.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sat Nov 09, 2019 2:32 am

Skeleton typing procedure (modified scientific method): https://daylenjbonner.blogspot.com/2019 ... edure.html
- Research, Observation, Speculation, Falsification, Construction, Presentation

Agent Diagrams (modification of cognitive diagrams): https://daylenjbonner.blogspot.com/2019 ... tions.html
- Containment, Abstraction, Causation, Attraction

I will expand on each of the components with time. Typing requires systemic thinking to distinguish between form and content (accounting for your content being their form). Agent diagrams are specialized systemic diagrams that help filter out content that would correspond to neuronal micro-structure. As a general rule, S-structures are containers and N-structures connect that being contained. The minimal N-structure has three components. Hence, my use of triangles and how they build into latticeworks that abstract away from particular content to cover the underlying S territory.

S: x in y ------> a,b,c, .. in .. m,n,o ..
N: x in y is z ------> a,b,c .. in .. m,n,o .. is .. x,y,z ..

Causation is represented with circles that can have a fractal-like structure. Zooming in or out is equivalent to switching systemic levels. Higher levels can bound lower levels explicitly, but this is not strictly required (i.e. can be implicit).

Attraction is represented with arrows between N-structures. Just as N filters between form and content, F filters between inertia and agency. A rock does not have the N-structure to be F-directed, and a dog does not have the same degree of F-direction on its N-structure that humans do. Therefore a rock has no agency and a dog has less than a human.

Extroverted functions seek to collect novel structures (subjectively) at the expense of honing/integrating structures already possessed (consciously or unconsciously).

You can see the similarity to my old diagram construction model in this thread: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10540&p=188137&hili ... ms#p186850
.. assimilate and integrate .. publish .. repeat. This is essentially me developing a universal T-structure in real-time with the help of N-feedback.
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:54 am

Additionally, in a given context with a particular meaning-making system, only agents operating at the fourth or fifth order can accurately type agents of a lower order in that context with respect to that particular meaning-making system. Contexts are distinguished by what is considered in[form]ation, and a fifth order agent has many such informational systems. Third-order agents do not yet embody the system, therefore they cannot reliably extract the signal from the noise (or S from N).

This is not entirely hopeless, because almost all human agents embody a system of movement, consumption, and navigation. Our animal-like nature is what connects us with a collective N-language, yet this structure is focused on similes as opposed to exclusions. Hence, this makes typing more challenging.

The scientific study of personality is thus not possible without aristocratic validation (contradicting the essence of what science should be) since agents themselves generate the data. Personality will forever remain philosophy. I could by extension deconstruct science itself using something akin to the Kantian approach, but that would probably be taking this train of thought too far. This is turning into a tangle anyway. :P

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by Colibri » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:09 am

Okay Daylen, you seems to be quite knowledgeable about personnality types.

Question: I am dancing between IFNJ and ISFP on MB's test. What does that mean ? In terms of not being fixed on one type and also with those two particular types ?

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Sun Nov 10, 2019 3:32 am

@Colibri Those tests results could mean a lot or very little. In my own interpretation of the system each of those types is not even in the same quadra, and they each use a different judgement axis. 44 short posts is not really enough for me to confidently type you with my system, but I glanced over your posts and Fi is apparent. Given that Se-Ni and introversion are shared from each of the types you tested as, then my best guess is that you are an ISFP that uses Fi-Se-Ni-Te. This is highly speculative on my part, and it would be even more speculative for me to interpret why you apparently switch from INFJ and ISFP even though they are very different. You seem like an ISFP that respects the boundaries of others and has developed third slot Ni enough to value this forum; these are the most obvious traits to me that you would share with a typical INFJ.

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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:20 am

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Here are some examples of agent diagrams. The first shows what a Si, Ni, Ti, and Fi dominate structure may look like at the macro level. The second shows what Ti-Ne may look like (primary circuitry with peripheral crystals).

S ~ squares ~ territories ~ sensory spaces
N ~ triangles ~ crystals ~ abstractions
T ~ circles ~ circuits ~ cause-effect chains
F ~ lines/arrows ~ interceptions ~ attraction/repulsion

I think the reason I am attracted to this kind of visual imagery is that is minimizes the amount of attention or mental energy required for me to 'think' about complicated social situations or personalities that would otherwise be challenging to put in words. When typing an agent, such images can be constructed in the mind of the typist to encode and store relevant observations.

Hints of macro-structure come from observing what an agent has and does not seek more of; instead the agent seeks insurance that what they have is consistent and complete. Meso-structure is built with the extroverted seeking functions to backup the primary introverted structure with 'data' of some form.

Si thinks in terms of absolute distances. All of reality can be contained in a frame with a single scale to measure how much of anything there is in reference to the absolute total. This space could be personal property, a city, a national territory, Earth, or the observable universe. Though, obviously the more expansive it is then the more likely that Ne is culprit to extrapolating from the actual Si data. Hence, true Si is typically confined to perhaps a few cities and how they have evolved over the lifetime of the agent.

Ni structure is meant to become 'hardened' overtime, hence the association with crystals. A lattice of triangular dependencies is robust to territorial expansions or contractions. Overall consistency is discounted in favor of synergistic completeness that spans any potential territory.

Ti is highly fragile or sensitive as it becomes larger because of long dependency chains, but this is exactly what gives it precision. A single new piece of information could lead to cascading failure and rebooting into a novel arrangement. Hence, such macro-structure is the most influenced by culture.

Fi tends to stabilize quickly after subjected to turmoil, as it quickly reduces the dimensions of prioritization to a feasible number and finds the intersection. Marginal gains and losses are equalized to identify the 'sweet spot', yet the dimensions themselves can be unstable so recalculation may often be required.

The extroverted functions then give each of these primary frames a bit of character. Ne for instance is not worried about having a complete abstract picture but instead narrows the scope of the picture and compares how crystals fit in isolation of previously built crystals in other parts of the picture.
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Re: Personality Typing

Post by daylen » Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:29 am

Si is associated with memory because it distinguishes between the 'self' and the 'environment' to form a template upon which other details can be pegged and referenced. One way to identify this structure in the wild is by 'self-control'. Thinking about how the body moves in relation to surrounding objects is Si. Se tends to dominate sports because it acts quickly, but Si dominates in activities with a predictable playing field and need for precision. Yoga and gymnastics are good examples.

Additionally, Si requires a process of 'remembering' where the single space-time field is navigated mentally to 'find' the location of significance. Ni is nearly immediate recall (by design).

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