Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by ffj » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:06 pm

When she told Trump to stop being Saudi Arabia's bitch she got my instant respect. I don't know much about her however, and it concerns me she endorsed Sanders last go-around.

It's going to be an interesting year politically.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:12 pm

Let’s face it, it’s going to be a sh*tshow.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by thegreatvoid » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:03 am

Not reading anything on Russia Today

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by enigmaT120 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:14 pm

Why do we have to be the brainless muscle for S.A.'s proxie war with Iran? I thing both countries suck shit but if I had to pick an ally it would be Iran based on how they marginally treat women better. Yeah marginally.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by fell-like-rain » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:45 am

That's great news! I didn't realize there were any anti-war Democrats left. All the lefties I know have been shitting on Trump for not visiting the troops or for withdrawing from Syria, and I'm just here wondering when everyone in America became a neocon hawk when it comes to foreign policy. Nobody seems to care anymore about wasting lives and money on pointless wars, or extrajudicial killings, or blowing up American citizens...

Of course, it looks like about 2 seconds after she announced, people found all kinds of statements she's made about "homosexual extremists", so I'm not exactly on the Tulsi train yet.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Clarice » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:33 am

thegreatvoid wrote:
Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:03 am
Not reading anything on Russia Today
Why?

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Kriegsspiel » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:58 am

fell-like-rain wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:45 am
That's great news! I didn't realize there were any anti-war Democrats left. All the lefties I know have been shitting on Trump for not visiting the troops or for withdrawing from Syria, and I'm just here wondering when everyone in America became a neocon hawk when it comes to foreign policy. Nobody seems to care anymore about wasting lives and money on pointless wars, or extrajudicial killings, or blowing up American citizens...

Of course, it looks like about 2 seconds after she announced, people found all kinds of statements she's made about "homosexual extremists", so I'm not exactly on the Tulsi train yet.
Sure looks like it's tough to be a Democrat these days.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by fell-like-rain » Mon Jan 14, 2019 12:13 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:58 am
Sure looks like it's tough to be a Democrat these days.
Yeah, in the sense that people are going to drag up all the stuff you've ever said to use against you. I mean, over the past 20 years we've gone from 25 or 30% support for gay marriage to ~65%, so obviously people's beliefs can change radically over time, but in this case I'd want to do more research to see if her actions/votes demonstrate a real change of heart.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Gilberto de Piento » Mon Jan 14, 2019 1:40 pm

Why?
It delivers news but also subtle Russian propaganda would be my guess.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by thegreatvoid » Mon Jan 14, 2019 5:57 pm

@Clarice for the same reason I don't watch or listen to aljazeera. State funded media, with the sole purpose to spread Propaganda and biased news in the West.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by IlliniDave » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:21 pm

It's going to be a crowded field on the blue side. It'll be fun to see what they try to do to distinguish themselves from each other.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by prognastat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:49 pm

If they run anyone from the Democratic Establishment they're probably going to fail against Trump.

I'd say Tulsi has a chance if she can get enough publicity/name recognition. Bernie Sanders has a chance, but he is going to be almost 80 by then. After the DNA test business I don't think Elizabeth Warren can win against Trump. Whoever the Greens and Libertarians put forward isn't going to win. At this point putting forth Hillary for a third time would just be asking to lose.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by IlliniDave » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:11 pm

They are already starting to force Bernie out (allegations against his 2016 campaign). And based on how they treated him during 2016, seems unlikely any outsider has a chance. My guess it will be whomever in the establishment is willing to lean the furthest left. The new Cali Gov and the mayor of NYC seem to be posturing. Otherwise, it's a bunch of legislators with identical voting records over the last 16 years. Trump actually stands in the old center left--old as in what moderate northern democrats stood for in the days of my youth (protectionist, pro-blue collar, anti illegal immigration, etc.) so they can't really come back to being Kennedy democrats or even Bill Clinton democrats. Dunno much about Tulsi except she'll likely be one face among many basically running the same campaign, much like most of the red clad candidates in 2016. Who among them has a larger-than-life presence/personality might be the key rather than who out-lefts the field.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by prognastat » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:32 pm

I suspect you're right as far as how the primary is going to go in the Democratic party as they don't seem to have learned anything from the last election and if it does go this way they are probably going to lose again.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:32 pm

prognastat wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:49 pm
Whoever the Greens and Libertarians put forward isn't going to win
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B2KVORRKsxE

I have never even registered to vote but am considering a vote for the Libertarians.

Regardless of who I might vote for and who wins the election, I am sure everything will continue to get worse.

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by BRUTE » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:19 pm

Mister Imperceptible wrote:
Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:32 pm
Regardless of who I might vote for and who wins the election, I am sure everything will continue to get worse.
that's the spirit :D

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:12 am

Hehe. Ever after the triumph of Thanatos are we?

The spirit of Eros remains unbroken and lies in wait.

Hide in my bunker and wait for everything to break.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xIraCchPDhk

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by BRUTE » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:36 am

at least brute has something to show for his efforts

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Re: Tulsi 2020: Anti-war Democrat says she’s running for US president

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:53 am

brute cannot break that which was already broken

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