Re: Daylen's Journey
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2023 1:41 pm
1. I do not really know how to describe this perfectly but language has increasingly become like a proxy in my mind for construction. Mostly I rely on simulation from basic sensory processing units (i.e. like features of the sensorium, mostly visual transformations). Simulations run on some finite set of rules. Some simulations are more complete or cover more fields/objects of study, some are more challenging to run, some are simpler to explain, etc. (a trade-off or optimization space emerges). More fit simulations get selected to join the model ecosystem, so to speak. When my mind was more like a grassland with a few subconscious shrubs here and there the early succession process took hold and started this simulation project. It was some time later that I started analyzing these transitions to the point of developing a simple visual model of how my mind works and it has served as a fairly stable tree-like addition to the ecosystem that I can use to gain vantage points over the landscape of developing models or simulations.
2. The Drawing Agency thread highlights the general idea of the core model: viewtopic.php?p=247731#p247731
Here is a simplification that has tended to be most helpful that has three stages of complexification: 1) agents and vegents as finite open sets that move or do not move on some manifold (i.e. like a sphere or ring) 2) add in closed structural sets that cover agents and vegents on the outside and add in points of convergence to the inside of agents and vegents 3) add in open map sets that cover some agents and vegents and add in open frame sets that cover some points inside agents and vegents.
This chart shows a single agent enclosed in a single map within a single structure that has within them a single frame with a single point. It's an agent since I am not sure the MBTI or PPPP mappings project into vegent-mind space very well:
![Image](https://i.ibb.co/dmxYjQC/pppp.png)
Now, several different "kinds" of rule sets can be interpreted from this basic picture with the help of group theory (or by presuming causal symmetries). At stage 1 with no outside or inside world, life just is what it is (agents and vegents on a manifold). Stage 2 involves introducing an open or closed causal loop between an outside thing/process/system/universe/etc. and an inside thing/process/system/cell/etc.. Stage 3 involves introducing an open or closed causal loop between an outside representation/model/simulation/etc. and an inside representation/model/simulation/etc..
So, the drawing is self-referential and so must sorta be raised to the "level" of a "meta-model". Which is just a map within a map and a frame within a frame.. it's a bottomless bucket of recursion that might waste a lot of cycles, or at least it use too, but seems to do a pretty good job now at constraining or freeing any other processing in the brain. Making it easier to steer through the state space.. or does it? I don't really know anything or maybe I do but I have forgotten.. but sometimes I re-remember in a different forest or desert.
2. The Drawing Agency thread highlights the general idea of the core model: viewtopic.php?p=247731#p247731
Here is a simplification that has tended to be most helpful that has three stages of complexification: 1) agents and vegents as finite open sets that move or do not move on some manifold (i.e. like a sphere or ring) 2) add in closed structural sets that cover agents and vegents on the outside and add in points of convergence to the inside of agents and vegents 3) add in open map sets that cover some agents and vegents and add in open frame sets that cover some points inside agents and vegents.
This chart shows a single agent enclosed in a single map within a single structure that has within them a single frame with a single point. It's an agent since I am not sure the MBTI or PPPP mappings project into vegent-mind space very well:
![Image](https://i.ibb.co/dmxYjQC/pppp.png)
Now, several different "kinds" of rule sets can be interpreted from this basic picture with the help of group theory (or by presuming causal symmetries). At stage 1 with no outside or inside world, life just is what it is (agents and vegents on a manifold). Stage 2 involves introducing an open or closed causal loop between an outside thing/process/system/universe/etc. and an inside thing/process/system/cell/etc.. Stage 3 involves introducing an open or closed causal loop between an outside representation/model/simulation/etc. and an inside representation/model/simulation/etc..
So, the drawing is self-referential and so must sorta be raised to the "level" of a "meta-model". Which is just a map within a map and a frame within a frame.. it's a bottomless bucket of recursion that might waste a lot of cycles, or at least it use too, but seems to do a pretty good job now at constraining or freeing any other processing in the brain. Making it easier to steer through the state space.. or does it? I don't really know anything or maybe I do but I have forgotten.. but sometimes I re-remember in a different forest or desert.