If you're aware of this option strategy, then you know a typical option wheel strategy works like this:
1.) Sell a cash-covered PUT on a stock (collect premium).
2.) Get assigned 100 shares per contract eventually.
3.) Sell a covered CALL on the same stock. Ideally above the purchase price in step 2.
4.) Get shares called away eventually. Hopefully at a profit (one trades away any gains that occur above the contract price).
I discussed this one on the forum here looking for feedback when I had initially thought it would be brilliant to use a SWR replacement...
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=11230
Turns out it wasn't all that brilliant (and the strategy has some downsides). In essence:
PRO: Consistent profit as long as the stock trades flat or keeps slowly trending up; great to use in a high IV market. Great to use for stocks that bounce around in a tight range.
CON: One could end up bag-holding if the stock keeps trending down.
I thought about a modifier on the above strategy that could work pretty well for consistent profits and also protects from the downside...
Same strategy but with a modification...
1.) Sell a cash-covered PUT on a stock (collect premium).
2.) Eventually get assigned 100 shares of stock per contract.
3.) After assignment, immediately purchase an ATM (at-the-money) PUT on the stock expiring a few months out.
4.) Sell weekly or bi-weekly covered CALLS on the same stock.
5.) But instead of having shares called away if the stock price rises, one should roll-out and close the covered call positions at about 50% profit or so. For instance, if you collect a $200 premium in step 4 and the stock price rises, you could buy to close the position for say $100 (net profit $100). Repeat as necessary.
The benefit of the above modification is that you're insured against a sudden drop in the stock (which maybe Coronavirus second WAVE could cause ...that is a different topic).
Can anyone think of drawbacks with above? I can think of two....
Drawbacks:
1.) If the stock trends downward, one will risk losses on both the puts and the calls that may exceed the profit on the stock if the stock suddenly rises.
2.) You must profit enough off the premiums to exceed the cost of the put purchased in step 3 to profit. At worst one might do a lot of trading to only end up with free or cheap insurance. At best, profits can be had. In each case, gains will be traded away if one was just better off buying the stock with dollar cost averaging.
Any other thoughts certainly welcomed.
Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
Last edited by Lemur on Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:57 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
Some definitions of rolling options:
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-cente ... ered-calls
Step 5 reads subjectively depending on what the stock does. Essentially, you want to 1.) Avoid Assignment (shares called away. 2.) Roll down options at 50% profits if stock price falls or 3.) Roll out options if stock price rises.
https://www.fidelity.com/learning-cente ... ered-calls
Step 5 reads subjectively depending on what the stock does. Essentially, you want to 1.) Avoid Assignment (shares called away. 2.) Roll down options at 50% profits if stock price falls or 3.) Roll out options if stock price rises.
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Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
You're beginning to approximate put-call parity which consequentially will provide a market interest rate because your de facto exposure is that of a bond (all your greeks are small). IOW, you're building a bond synthetically out of options and equity. Your profit in this case will come from vig which given the low commissions might just be possible insofar your predictions are good enough to stay on the maker (passive) side. If not, you're the one paying the vig.
Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
@Jacob
Thanks for these sources. I'll read through them.
I'm wondering if that put-call parity explains the phenomenon I found yesterday looking at PEPSI CALL/PUT prices. When I priced the PEPSI 135 PUT expiring Oct 18, it came out to $7.10 or $710 total price. If one would sell weekly $135-$140 CALLS up to the Oct 18 date, it would net you just about $700-$750 dollars give or take (I used the last close prices for that projection).
Thanks for these sources. I'll read through them.
I'm wondering if that put-call parity explains the phenomenon I found yesterday looking at PEPSI CALL/PUT prices. When I priced the PEPSI 135 PUT expiring Oct 18, it came out to $7.10 or $710 total price. If one would sell weekly $135-$140 CALLS up to the Oct 18 date, it would net you just about $700-$750 dollars give or take (I used the last close prices for that projection).
Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
Sounds like a strategy that will work well in a long-term bull market and/or a market without short-term euphoric sentiment, and work poorly in a long-term bear market and/or a market with short-term euphoric sentiment.
Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
Here is my thought: you're saying, sell an otm put, if assigned, buy an atm put. But the fact that you've been assigned on the otm put you sold means the stock's been coming down and therefore the iv's been coming up. that atm put might cost you.
You might be willing to bear that cost, of course. Idk how the particular math would work out in a given case.
You might be willing to bear that cost, of course. Idk how the particular math would work out in a given case.
Re: Thoughts on using an option wheel strategy with a hedge?
@Ertyu
This is a somewhat older post but one factor I did not take into consideration is the opportunity cost of having your capital tied up in step 1. Sure, one will collect a premium but they may have been better off holding shares in a stock.
And no. In this strategy one sells a cash covered put, gets assigned, and then sells a covered call. Profit would come in 3 ways:
1.) Premium is collected in step one from selling a put (cash-covered)
2.) Premium is collected in step 3 from selling a covered call on the same stocks assigned in step 2
3.) Profit is collected from the difference between the stock prices in step 1 & 3.
IOT, this is really just a fancy way to swing trade a stock that is cyclical.
And yes this could absolutely cost you if you're assigned and the stock just keeps dropping and never goes back up to your covered call price target; just like owning any other stock.
This is a somewhat older post but one factor I did not take into consideration is the opportunity cost of having your capital tied up in step 1. Sure, one will collect a premium but they may have been better off holding shares in a stock.
And no. In this strategy one sells a cash covered put, gets assigned, and then sells a covered call. Profit would come in 3 ways:
1.) Premium is collected in step one from selling a put (cash-covered)
2.) Premium is collected in step 3 from selling a covered call on the same stocks assigned in step 2
3.) Profit is collected from the difference between the stock prices in step 1 & 3.
IOT, this is really just a fancy way to swing trade a stock that is cyclical.
And yes this could absolutely cost you if you're assigned and the stock just keeps dropping and never goes back up to your covered call price target; just like owning any other stock.