C40's Journal

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Post by Ego » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:45 am

Most people go with relatively fixed itineraries. They have a ticket into Bangkok, a ticket out of Singapore and six weeks to see as much as possible. You don't have that problem. You can buy a one-way ticket and book a few nights in a hotel in Bangkok then wing it. Southeast Asia is a place where winging it is very easy.

We did what 2Birds plans to do. We got to know the major areas the first time we visited in 2005 then stayed longer in a few places the second time. Our favorite hostel in Bangkok SUK11 closed not too long ago. We've stayed there at least 20 times over the years as Bangkok is the crossroads. Hostels with private rooms are common in the region. They are great places to meet other travelers and talk about places to go and how to get there.

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Post by bigato » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:44 pm

There are a number of characteristics of a country that you can easily learn through the internet, youtube and books. The touristic attractions being the easiest of them. But that is a small and unimportant part of what constitutes actually living there. And a lot of aspects, you may never know if you don't go there because people shooting videos for youtube or writing geography books and articles never thought they were relevant enough. I'd say that culture and the personalities of local people are among the characteristics that will have the most impact on your daily life and also happen to be knowledge that can be hard to acquire if not from first hand. I'd suggest you do all the research you can from home, and them roughly make a list of places and things you want to check out. And them walk around (that's important, actually walk not only ride) the places for one, two or more days, talk to people, see what they do, follow your intuition. Be exploratory. From that you'll acquire a type of deep knowledge that nobody else can grant you, because it is as much about you getting to know the country as it is about the country getting to know you.

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Post by C40 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:35 am

Thanks for the input, everyone :-)

A very brief update from a Starbucks while I'm waiting for images to upload on a Craigslist ad and for my tea to cool enough to drink.

  • I've left Portland. Loaded up all my stuff and the motorcycle in/on the van. I'm expecting to stay with some family in Denver and probably Phoenix for a bit, and try to sell my van, motorcycle, and maybe a couple bicycles. The main reason for not doing that in Portland is to drop off my other belongings in Denver, where the rest of my unused things already are. This way, I'll have everything in once place.
  • I'll have some last things to sort out before going to Asia. (Visa rules, bank stuff, vaccinations?, what exactly to take, etc)
  • I had a pretty good time in Portland, but right now I'm considering my jaunt there mostly a failure. Mainly, I ended up not wanting to live with my friends there. More on that later.

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Post by Gilberto de Piento » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:12 am

Congratulations on making a decision and taking the steps to make it happen. I've always admired your ability to act decisively. Good luck with your move. I hope you enjoy Asia.

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Post by Wads » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:28 am

Congrats C40!

I'm looking forward to your Asia reports. Chaing Mai is a potential FIRE location for myself.

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Post by wolf » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:35 am

Wow, I'm looking forward to read your reports of Asia. I find that you live a very interesting life. First working, then vanliving and travelling and then living in Portland. And now Asia! :-)
Besides your lifestyle, did you do a half-year financial summary (with all those great charts)?

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Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:59 am

That's exciting news! Trying to navigate the vaccination requirements ourselves, and it's hard to figure out what you really need vs. what is nice to have for different parts of SE Asia. Please let us know if you iron it all out.

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Post by Ego » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:39 am

If you decide to get vaccinations consider waiting until you get to Bangkok. We got our Rabies jabs (series of 3) there for a fraction of the cost of a US travel clinic. You can email them for current prices and to ask if they have specific vaccines. It is a good place to get a Yellow Fever vaccination if you might ever go to any country that requires it. Iirc, the Yellow Fever jab is now one stick for lifetime protection. Hep B is a series of jabs over a month(?) which works well if you do out and
back trips from Bangkok.

https://www.bnhhospital.com/medical-ser ... inic-itmc/

If you don't already have one, make sure to bring a Carte Jaune from your local health department.

https://global-goose.com/immunizations-in-bangkok/

Get a price sheet from both hospitals.

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Post by C40 » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:22 am

Thanks Ego. I found my vaccine record, and I've emailed a couple clinics in Bangkok asking about prices and availability. If the prices seem reasonable, I won't even bother checking on prices here or trying to use my insurance (based in SD and I'm in AZ and I believe I'd be on the hook for it all myself own while out of area/coverage/network)

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Post by C40 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:20 am

I sold my van today.

The costs of the van turned out to be:

Purchase/Build: $13k
Maintenance/Repairs/Upgrades: $2k
Sale: ($12k)

(not counting insurance, registration, or gas. The build does include some tools)


So it ended up costing about $3k. Owned it for 4 years. Lived in it for about 2.5.

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Post by classical_Liberal » Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 am

Well, goodbye to an old friend I guess. How many miles did you put on it over the years?

Good luck on the next chapter!

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Post by 2Birds1Stone » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:38 am

Talk about cheap housing! Your van is what sent me down the whole "live in a van, down by the river" rabbit hole, many years ago.

How is your mom liking her build these days? Is she still living/traveling in it regularly?

Re: travel vaccinations, we just spoke to Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY and they cover none of the vaccines required for SE Asia, besides the basics you would need in the US (ie: tetanus).

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Post by Smashter » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 am

I spent about 60k in rent over that same 2.5 year period. And that, kids, is a big reason why C40 is off to galavant around Asia on a spectacular, work-free adventure while I respond to Slack messages from my boss telling me that we have to have an "internal sync" about a project, which I can already tell means I am going to have to throw out a bunch of work I did over the last couple days.

This journal is so motivating.

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Post by Ego » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:50 am

Yes! Nice work. How soon til you get to SE Asia?

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Post by C40 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:49 am

classical_Liberal wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 12:28 am
How many miles did you put on it over the years?
About 40,000 miles. The poor fuel mileage of the van (10-15) was one of the reasons I took a strategy of fairly slow meandering while I was full-timing it.


2Birds1Stone wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:38 am
How is your mom liking her build these days? Is she still living/traveling in it regularly?

Re: travel vaccinations, we just spoke to Blue Cross Blue Shield of NY and they cover none of the vaccines required for SE Asia, besides the basics you would need in the US (ie: tetanus).
Mom is still enjoying her van. She goes on weekend trips here and there, and recently spent a week or two going up and through Colorado. She's still working and once she retires, she'll go out in it more. I'm guessing she'll use it for a few years after that and then sell it.

Thanks for the vaccine info. I'm taking a similar strategy for a vasectomy (Probably just gonna do it over there assuming it's cheaper) though I will be a bit more scrutinizing to make sure my likelihood of the ~'severe dick pain' side effect are low.


Smashter wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:47 am
... This journal is so motivating.
Thank you :-)


Ego wrote:
Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:50 am
Yes! Nice work. How soon til you get to SE Asia?
I still have left:
- Sell the motorcycle
- Some more research
- Some administrative things (bank account, I.D.P., maaaaybe initial visa, etc... some of these involve waiting )

So, maybe a month. I'm not in a huge hurry. It's nice spending time here with my family, and good to do before I'm gone for potentially quite a while.

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Post by jennypenny » Thu Sep 26, 2019 11:54 am

Am I the only one bummed that C40 sold the van? I thought it was so cool and he put so much work into it.

*sigh* C'est la vie in EREland.

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Post by jacob » Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:26 pm

Maybe we should've run a gofundme campaign to acquire it and put it in the ERE Museum 8-)

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Post by Gilberto de Piento » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:15 pm

ERE people aren't going to put any money into a GoFundMe! It would cut into their savings rate. ;)

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Post by SavingWithBabies » Thu Sep 26, 2019 8:20 pm

I'm not bummed because I'm guessing if he was to do it again, he'd do at least some of it differently. Am I right @C40? So it's a chance to start with a blank slate later on down the road.

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Post by theanimal » Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:51 am

I don't know. I think I'd go to an ERE museum with C40's van and Jacob's rake. The cafe would have someone preparing Seppia's recipes.


Man you must be excited. Do you feel like you did at the beginning of your van travels? Looking forward to what's ahead and moving towards an unfamiliar lifestyle? I'll be looking forward to reading your reports. I may not be far behind...

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