Am in this situation for the first-time. In my research I have not come across any good options for EREs, ie none of the options (including an individual Roth 401k) have a provision for early withdrawals without penalties (except in an extraordinary circumstance). Is this what others have found?
Eg, I know there are provisions after leaving a company as an employee, to transfer the Roth 401k/403b to a Roth IRA, and after 5 yrs one can withdraw the money without penalty. But does anything like that exist for a 1099 business (with any legal/tax structure)? I would be the sole proprietor/employee/owner.
1099 Business and Retirement Plans
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Re: 1099 Business and Retirement Plans
Do mean 1099 income you've placed into a retirement vehicle such as a Keogh or SIMPLE plan?
Are you familiar with 72t withdrawals, also known on the internets as SEPPs (substantially equal periodic payments)?
Are you familiar with 72t withdrawals, also known on the internets as SEPPs (substantially equal periodic payments)?
Re: 1099 Business and Retirement Plans
You could always roll it into an IRA and then 72t it. The legal protections for solo 401k/solo business retirement plans are not that strong anyhow it seems.
Also, I so so so recommend the Solo 401k. For several years I used a SEP and missed out on all those sweet sweet employee contributions. Oh the stupid extra tax I paid.
Also, I so so so recommend the Solo 401k. For several years I used a SEP and missed out on all those sweet sweet employee contributions. Oh the stupid extra tax I paid.
Re: 1099 Business and Retirement Plans
CS wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:15 pmYou could always roll it into an IRA and then 72t it. The legal protections for solo 401k/solo business retirement plans are not that strong anyhow it seems.
Also, I so so so recommend the Solo 401k. For several years I used a SEP and missed out on all those sweet sweet employee contributions. Oh the stupid extra tax I paid.
No, I hadn't heard of 72t, thanks for the input; it does look like I can create a solo Roth 401k, later convert it to an IRA, and then use 72t or another provision. I haven't done anything yet so I don't have a Keogh or SIMPLE.unemployable wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2019 12:07 pmDo mean 1099 income you've placed into a retirement vehicle such as a Keogh or SIMPLE plan?
Are you familiar with 72t withdrawals, also known on the internets as SEPPs (substantially equal periodic payments)?
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Re: 1099 Business and Retirement Plans
72t's are an excellent way to fund relatively minor, ongoing expenses. They are a not-so-effective way to fund larger expenses such as a house or to "take money" out of tax-deferred vehicles to reallocate or spend somewhere else.
If you foresee a need to spend a large amount of tax-deferred money in the medium-term future (5+ years but before age 59½), I would look into Roth conversion ladders.
If you foresee a need to spend a large amount of tax-deferred money in the medium-term future (5+ years but before age 59½), I would look into Roth conversion ladders.
Re: 1099 Business and Retirement Plans
The five year clock starts ticking with the first Roth account opened outside a 401k plan so if you don't have an individual Roth account, opening one right away would be a good idea.
The rules are complex. I was going to say you could take the entire principle, but I'm finding conflicting information.
The rules are complex. I was going to say you could take the entire principle, but I'm finding conflicting information.