"Holodomor"
Mismanagement is not genocide, "debate among historians is ongoing and there is no international consensus among scholars or governments on whether the Soviet policies that caused the famine fall under the legal definition of genocide." url=
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor ... e_question
> other past examples of Communism
Never once suggested replicating any of those past governments. Did suggest a lot of the failures are overblown by propaganda (like Holodomor) and also that past attempts were constantly and without exception under economic and/or open attack by the US and its post-WWII capitalist hegemony, making them poor examples of the success or failure of their ideas.
Not even the most extreme Marxist-Leninist (which I am not) supports Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge, lol. It's about as silly to use as an example of what communists want as touting post-civil war Somalia as a libertarian ideal.
If communism is responsible for bread lines in Havana, we must acknowledge that capitalism is responsible for lead water in Detroit.
"Antifa/Anarchists"
Granted there is a lot of overlap between antifa and far-left ideologies, but it is technically two different groups/movements with different approaches and different goals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifa_(United_States)
"Antifa focuses more on fighting far-right ideology than encouraging pro-left policy."
I now regret even bringing up leftist policies in this thread since it just plays into this stupid either/or argument. Again, I brought up socialistic solutions only because I think they would help the real underlying causes for the pain that is otherwise attributed to fictional persecution complexes that feed white supremacy.
You do not have to be an anarchist or pro-left to be anti-fascist just because we anarchists and leftists got there first. Again, you just have to be no further right than Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan.
"Intellectual capital will replace labor for money."
And when Artificial Intelligence capital replaces human intellectual capital? There are already AIs that invent their own languages and write novels. You're not thinking this through. Even creative labor can be automated. "First they automated the factory workers, and I said nothing, for I was not a factory worker. Then they automated the retail workers, and I said nothing..."
"in reality, though, brute suspects that the trolly/anti-PC humans are very different from the actual nazi/KKK humans."
Whether they're trolls there because it's "top kek" or not doesn't really matter once they're armed and marching in support of genocide, bolstering their ranks and running over their opposition with cars.
"one PC tactic is also to move the Overton window to their side. Spartan_Warrior uses this tactic a lot on here - anything but his position is "nazi sympathizer"."
LOL. Probably because those defending Nazis are basically acting as Overton-window meat shields themselves to legitimize genocide as a political position. "Just free speech", right, and always cast as equal to the speech of those opposing them.
"And yes, advocating the use of violence to silence people, should be a fringe position. It is per definition not protected by free speech, and it is as bad as nazism."
Nazis: We must subjugate and kill all non-whites to create a pure ethno-state.
Antifa: I am against this and will stop it by any means necessary.
Leftists: We should have free healthcare and more workers' rights.
BLM: Please stop shooting us.
Centrists: These are literally all equally bad!
Whether you think advocating for genocide is just free speech worthy of protection, whether you think it's "top kek" worthy of good lols due to psychopathic levels of nihilistic narcissism, or whether you think this looks and sounds like a fine idea for society... you are in a "morally different universe".
If you think trying to stop this is as bad as recruiting for it, then you are legitimizing and providing cover for white supremacists. You are acting as their bodyguards. You are their support. You are the one holding open the Overton window for them.
If you ever wondered how you would have behaved in Germany or Italy during the rise of fascism, you're doing it right now except with the added benefit of historical retrospection.