@ Steveo - Responding to some things you added to your post with an edit:
steveo73 wrote:C40 - honestly your comment is basically ridiculous. Give me proof that humans are so bad and we are destroying the world. If you can't provide that it ends the whole debate.
Ok, first, I was talking about the balance of mammals and about extinctions. You're the one that keeps talking about humans "destroying the world". Stop trying to put words in my mouth. You're not fooling anyone with that crap.
Edit for clarity: What I'm claiming is that humans are causing a large amount of extinctions.
steveo73 wrote:
I'll be waiting.
I'll add some points to try and make this a more reasonable discussion.
1. The world today is looking pretty darn good. The environment doesn't appear bad.
2. There have been plenty of mass extinctions in the past and I don't believe that these were the faults of humans. They were a lot worse than anything that we have done.
3. We have saved animals from extinction.
4. Killing animals for food or furs or whatever happens. I assume we've made some animals extinct. If you believe though that humans will always hunt animals to extinction state that. I don't agree with you but at least own that opinion and try and back it up with some facts. If you are just saying sometimes we hunt animals to extinction the answer is yes we do. Other animals would do this as well.
5. If more humans are leading to less animals then what is your solution - kill off humans ?
The problem from my perspective is that yourself and others don't really have the ability to see complex issues in their totality as well as acknowledge the holes in your opinions.
2 - Are you agreeing that humans are causing the recent exponential increase in extinctions here? (and just saying it's not so bad a thing?)
3 - And? What does this have to do with whether or not humans have caused the extinctions?
4 - Humans have hunted many species to extinction. (I noted two cases above when humans first came to North America and Australia. I wished I could recall the number of extinctions that happened then, but it was a lot, and they happened right when the humans came)
5 - First let's agree on what is happening, then we could talk about whether we think changes should be made, and if so, what... If we don't even agree on what's happening, there's no use talking about any potential solutions, or making up hyperbolic ones to try to support your lack of an actual argument.