Campitor wrote:The attitude of "everything looks fine because I can't see bad stuff" is a silly way to manage resources or safeguard our environment.
This is pretty close to being a false statement. We need real world proof that there is something wrong. If you take the corollary of what you are stating you can see how bad it really is. If we take your approach we will stop using all sorts of resources and human beings will regress and die off.
For instance it's clear that there are some by-products of for instance burning leaded petrol in cars or smoking cigarettes. These things are clearly aspects of modernity that require effort on the part of society to minimise. People face those issues really well.
We shouldn't though stop using electricity or eating food because we are utilising too many resources. That is madness.
Campitor wrote:The world is a better place but only because smart people stood up and pushed for changes that benefit us all.
It's not about smart people standing up. It is completely to do with rational factual evidence based decisions being made.
I have no problems at all with facing issues that are clear to see. Where I have a problem is when people like yourself make generic unfounded statements such as we are destroying our environment when clearly this isn't the case and even you can see how far we have come and how we have improved the environment.
So I think therefore we can find some clear principles that we should be able to agree on:-
1. Human beings don't denigrate the environment over time. We make it better. This is from our perspective but that is as it should be within reason. The world itself will be fine.
2. Human beings react to clear and well founded evidence based environmental and social and health issues pretty darn well.
3. Human beings technological progress is pretty amazing.
If you take these items as being fair and consistent and take a step back you can see why the future is looking brighter and brighter. There is absolutely no need for these crazy rants about how bad humans are and how we are destroying our environment for ourselves in the future. We will be better off in 50 years time and more so in 100 and so on.