SlowTraveler's Journal

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Post by Viktor K » Sat May 26, 2018 6:48 am

Those housing prices are awesome! You've got me watching Thailand budget-related YouTube videos now. It seems the cost of living : quality of life ratio there is much better than here.

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Re: SlowTraveler's Journal

Post by 2Birds1Stone » Sat May 26, 2018 10:00 am

I'm with you Victor, SE Asia is calling my name (at a deafening level nonetheless).

Slowtraveler, is the current GF Thai as well?

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Post by slowtraveler » Sat May 26, 2018 10:50 am

@2Birds1Stone

Yes she is. So are all the other candidates.

I sent this in a message but it may be helpful for you as well. I edited out some personal information with a blanket warning to be careful.

In Chiang Mai:
NImman: Siriruk Apartment 3000 baht/month+8baht/kwh electricity+400 baht cleaning fee when leave+100/water/month
Saturday Night Market: Smith Residence (Maybe suites, whichever is west more is cheaper): 11000/month+8/kwh+250/water
*Includes gym, kitchen, and pool
Night Bazaar: Don't know name but close to two sisters pizza there's a few:3300-3800/month+8/kwh+forgot water
*Hard bed but amazing location, may get noisy on weekend nights, have to get own bedding but comes with mattress/frame.
Chang Khlan Rd: Galare Thong Tower: 9500-11000/month+5/kwh+20-22/m^3 H2O
*Nicest of the rooms, kitchen, and gorgeous view, coolest temperatures/best airflow

Pattaya is even cheaper, Jomtien Beach Condo has a nice room with kitchen at 8000/month and I think 5/kwh. Lady there was a sweetheart too. I can get you her number to whatsapp if you go there. 10 baht ride into the downtown, but I got food poisoning too often in Pattaya..

If you end up finding cheap rooms in SE Asia, let me know what you see.

Warning on month long rentals: Be careful of overcharging electricity, for damage not done, and of dates switched on receipts. Double check dates and deposit amounts on receipts at time of payment. Take a video in detail of the room and electric meter upon your moving in to confirm the status of the room so you don't get charged for what someone else did, along with making sure to never lose your receipt for your room.

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Re: SlowTraveler's Journal

Post by slowtraveler » Sun May 27, 2018 3:42 am

I've decided to completely abandon the idea of a second earned income. Once I pull the plug, it will be much easier if I get bored to supplement (not out of need but for extra income or to invest more) by programming or copy writing.

Looks like I'll be in the $30-40/day range this month.

Binged on C40's journal then did some back tracking from my cushy Ere goal assuming I spend $1500/month and get a 4% after tax return to find out that if there's no major crash immediately before, I'll be at my cushy goal at the beginning of 2022 and FI ready in late 2019. Considering the extremely early aspect (before 30 yo), I want the margin for error.

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Post by slowtraveler » Sun Jun 24, 2018 6:56 am

I'm boring of Thailand. I could go to the beaches or anywhere else but I'm not feeling it. Don't think I'll come back for a while. Girls in Malaysia and Philippines speak way better English and I think Malaysia will have more opportunity for sciencey girls, nature, and food. I've got food poisoning again too but it should pass soon.

North East Malaysia is in its dry season now, South West Malaysia, Thailand, Phillipines and Vietnam are apparently in the monsoon season. Kuala Lumpur is a mix of Indian, Chinese, and Malays so that'll be interesting to experience. I'm currently at 10 countries with my extremely slow travel style.

I've found plane tickets for $67 and 3 hours vs buses that'd take almost as much and take 33 hours, daily housing also but I haven't booked yet. No idea where is a nice monthly room but my walking strategy should do the trick. I do really well with little planning and allowance for flexibility. The structure in my life now comes from work and saving. The saving is getting rather drab but I've hit $35-40/day since April 1st. Quarter before that was more than double at around $82/day. This counts no rebates or cashback bonuses, which I've found very few are actually worth the trouble. Trying to find something to captivate me but I'm experiencing difficulty. Feeling more lazy and rationalizing that staying in is more cost effective.

One thing I know, I'm very against staying somewhere I need a vehicle of any kind. I want to be a minute or 2 walking from a basic grocery store, 15-20 minutes for a few stores is too far a walk. I think I'll take until year end to keep adapting to financially efficient travel.

I'm stunned as to how Jacob pulls off $14/day in Amurica. I'm in dirt cheap countries and spending more than his whole family. I used to get daily massages, travel quickly, eat Western food, Uber often, fly often, but now I'm doing flights every few months and using public transport most days. A kitchen was a huge waste of spending. It did not lower expenses sufficiently to offset its cost since street food is so cheap to buy here. It incentivized me to buy way too much cheese. I'll wait on cheese until I'm in the West again.

Some other expenses that were not worth it: $1.5 rain jacket (broke easy and held humidity inside), 6 pack of paper towels (not using enough and moving=they're wasted), a kg too much rice, ice cream, vegetables not eating immediately.

I have far off dreams to travel South America (amazingly easy with my citizenship(s)) and spend some short time in Europe/Africa but not yet. For now, I'm loving the warm tropics and learning a new culture. Hesitant to visit South America right now due to the violence I hear about there relative to here but drug laws are far more relaxed there.

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Post by slowtraveler » Thu Aug 02, 2018 3:11 pm

Feeling better. In Kuala Lumpur. Lots of nature, huge parks, caves, good cheap food everywhere, great infrastructure too. Definitely a bit more expensive than Thailand. Massages at least double the price. Food, 10-40% more.

I notice I spend way too much on sweets. Going to try cutting this down, I know all the sugar isn't good for me. Spending still consistently below $30/day. Capitalizing on credit card bonuses has been very helpful. The Capital One Venture, Bank of America Premier, Chase Sapphire Reserve, and Barclay Arrival + all seem to have about $500 of value per sign up and can be cycled over a 2 year period to almost completely cover flights.

Staying in the Asia region feels good for now. Lover seems to have stabled out and is sweet as can be now.

The English proficiency in Malaysia is refreshing. It is too conservative here relative to what I'm used to but very refreshing to be out and exploring here. Staying in Little India for now, China town soon, heading back to Thailand after that.

Debating on where to make the next border run. East Asia, Luang Prabang, and Hanoi -> Ha Long Bay are the main ideas but I'm open to anywhere in South/East Asia.

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Post by 2Birds1Stone » Fri Aug 03, 2018 9:20 am

I've been wondering how Kuala Lumpur would be for an extended (3 months) stay.

How is the air quality? The research I've done about arbitrage to SE Asia, it's come up as my biggest concern. I'm very active and running, cycling, hiking, swimming, are all activities that are hard to do with poor air quality.

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Post by slowtraveler » Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:37 am

The air feels good. Interestingly, Chiang Mai has an AQI of 76 and KL of 38 according to this random googled site*
**numbeo ranks KL as slighly higher in air quality than Chiang Mai as well but I strongly disagree with the greens/parks piece it mentions. KL has more parks and greens than any other major city I've been to, including New York, San Francisco, LA, Bangkok, Vietniene, Istanbul, Athens, Barcelona, etc. There's Heritage Park (which has the world's largest aviary, a planetarium, national museum, botanic gardens, etc.), Eco Park (a rain forest inside the park), Batu Caves, etc. I don't have time right now to visit them all but I likely will be back in the future to see more.

I could see a 3 month stay in Malaysia being very enjoyable. I think it'd be long for just Kuala Lumpur, unless you want to settle in here. In Kuala Lumpur, there's a few neighborhoods I'm looking to check out: Little India, Chinatown, and Jalan Alor which all have good cheap food from what I've heard and are walkable. Physdude said Wangsa Maju is a nice area to live as well. Little India has the best public transport of the 3 but Ubers (Grab, really) here are very cheap, if split between 4 people, they'll likely come out cheaper than public transport. I also want to see some of the mentioned sites.

After, I see myself spending time in Penang, Borneo (Kinabalu Park and Orangutan Rehabilitation Center), and the national forest (the oldest rainforest in the world~130 myo). I'm finding myself to enjoy 3-5 day trips in a place, travelling 30 minutes to a few hours to a new place after then stopping somewhere a few days and moving on again. Unless I love a place, I likely won't stay longer. And I never want to visit a boring or isolated place again. I was so bored in Vientiane and Chang Khlan. I'll get depressed places like there but be glowing in other places with excitement to explore.

So far, Thai culture seem more warm than Malaysian culture. Even the Chinese in Thailand seem more open and warm but people here haven't been cold, just relative to Thailand. I hear Vietnam and Philippines have warmer culture than Thailand but Philippines lacks infrastructure. Also, there is a 10 ringit (2.5 USD) per night tourist tax on accommodations. I think it's worth it so far but it does add up to a massage every 2nd day if getting a Chiang Mai temple massage for 120 baht + 25% tip.

*http://aqicn.org/city/kuala-lumpur/.
**https://www.numbeo.com/pollution/compar ... Comparison

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Post by slowtraveler » Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:41 am

I appreciate everyone in the forum sharing wisdom on my questions in other threads. I take time to digest them and don't see any wisdom I have to add so I simply read from them.

My ramblings go here, if anyone is still reading.

I've started learning more Thai. Started getting over ex, no more tham rak but still talk. Very excited about new girl though it likely won't go anywhere except maybe me spending a couple months out in the country side with no electricity or internet. Still trying to figure out how to do my work in that situation but it's not for a while so I'll ponder it.

Thinking to spend $100 to study Thai for a month in a 5 day a week crash course a 5 minute walk from home. New girl speaks 0 English. As do 90% of the locals. 9% speak basic. I've met under 10 citizens who are fluent in English. Most of them doctors or businessmen.

Probably not tracking spending except by net cash outflows soon. If it goes to 5 Jacob's on a prorated quarterly basis again, I'll track for a while to get it down to ~1.6 Jacobs again.

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Post by Viktor K » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:46 pm

If Chinese were easier to learn, I would try harder to get better at it. As it is, even with years of practice, the foreigners I know still struggle with tone pronunciation. As well, I don’t plan to stay in China after this next school year, so, for me, making an effort to get any better at the language, especially now, doesn’t make a lot of sense. Then again, my girlfriend speaks English so I don’t have any sort of personal incentive to learn the local tongue either. It’ll be interesting to see how that class works out for you, if you do decide to go for it. That plus some local friends/lovers that don’t speak any English will probably raise your fluency quite a bit, I imagine.

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Post by slowtraveler » Fri Aug 24, 2018 1:09 pm

My Thai has been improving daily.

My weight has been improving, now 87.5kg after changing to eating in a several hour window. Looking to go to the gym after my classes each day and have a healthy study-gym-work routine going daily. Work is emotionally draining at this point. Debating in my head on starting an offshore company to do my work through and it doesn't seem worth it in my situation.

Dad's in hospital with internal bleeding and across an ocean, he tends to recover before I'd have time to visit. Mom's taking it hard.

New girl seems psychotic, seems more than the last girl. We're not monogamous, I still have another lover who has been far sweeter lately but still wondering how to improve this pattern of dating in my life. To feel that same magnetic draw but towards someone psychologically healthier, ideally educated as well.

Expenses up due to more massages lately. They are my largest expense. Likely going to cut back on this soon but it can be hard. Seeing how quickly my low expense aspirations can be thrown out by a single recurring habit.

Still, coming on a year of moving out, no regrets. Expenses lower than rent in my hometown and lower than my tax savings. Sober finally.

For the coming year, I have the following foci:
*Weight Loss, Build Muscle
-eat during one period each day, workout 3-5x/week, sleep well

*Dating quality girl I trust, feel intense attraction to, and have aligned life path with

*Learn languages

*Build portfolio with passive income>exp

Funny enough, I now feel more comfortable with my dividend portfolio than holding an index. Illusion of control at play.
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Post by classical_Liberal » Fri Aug 24, 2018 4:48 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwbKYcBdVyk

To help you with your dating :D

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Post by slowtraveler » Fri Aug 24, 2018 5:16 pm

I need to get out of the danger zone. Been stuck there for a while.

I did meet a ts who seems chill but I don't feel the spark the same for her. I find myself more into cis girls by a wide margin.

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Post by 7Wannabe5 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 8:54 am

You might want to consider whether some of your own behavior is contributing to the "crazy." You might bear in mind the fact that women, especially young women, are generally not as well able to parse literal intention out from romantic behavior. This is why players usually play it cool or light/humorous in order to avoid as much "crazy" as possible. IOW, you need to be your own designated driver when it comes to the sex and "in love" chemicals.

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Post by Jason » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:41 am

When a young, intelligent, attractive guy with coinage like Slow Traveler William T. Vollmanns himself as a serial participant in transactional relationships with young women, the inevitable outcome is drama, weirdness and an admixture of interactions that skew towards the extremes of flailing "please let that train trestle fall on my fucking head walking home at sunrise" misses and out of the ballpark "I've left my body and am now communing with dirty angelic beings" hits. Its a complicated dynamic. Part Pretty Woman, part real feelings, part dark fantasy, part pure crazy chick. Plus, I'm assuming there are enhancements involved. He acknowledges he's in the danger zone but leaving it is no easy task. Crashing and burning is not for everyone but for those who like it, its a hard ride to get off. The fact that its his greatest expense but he's closing in on ERE is a great achievement. The way I look at it, what Anthony Bourdain was to food, ST is to massage girls, and if Netflix was smart enough to give him a show I'd be watching it right now. My guess is that It will end as he ages and pain tolerance, rebounding frequency decreases. But for the time being, its just a choice with all the pros and cons of a choice.

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Post by 7Wannabe5 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:20 am

@Jason:

Don't misunderstand. I very much empathize with ST, since we are both amiable, self-aware sensualists with rational core. However, I have a 61 year old male ENTP friend who is still trying to live that lifestyle, and is always trying to get me to play the role of his platonic, relatively-older, relatively-sane, second "wife." I recently visited him in the $2500/month flat his 37 year old escort GF talked him into renting before nicking him for 12 grand as she headed out the door. He was simultaneously popping pills and downing whiskey while desperately attempting to get a start-up organized via video conference. Not entirely pretty to see a man of that age trying to look hip with partially long, partially shaven hair-style, gyrating about to this horrific video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMK0prafzw0

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Post by Jason » Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:31 am

I'm neither arguing with you nor empathizing with ST. I think he's self aware enough to know that the worm inevitably turns and he's financially preparing himself to avoid the fate of your friend. At least the start-up part.

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Post by Kriegsspiel » Sat Aug 25, 2018 12:08 pm

7Wannabe5 wrote:
Sat Aug 25, 2018 11:20 am
61 year old male ENTP friend who is still trying to live that lifestyle... simultaneously popping pills and downing whiskey while desperately attempting to get a start-up organized via video conference. Not entirely pretty to see a man of that age trying to look hip with partially long, partially shaven hair-style, gyrating about to this horrific video:
Ahhh, Boomers.

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Post by slowtraveler » Sat Aug 25, 2018 1:50 pm

Jason, your comments and unbounded wisdom heal my soul in a way that words will never express. Honestly, none of this feels like a choice. As much of a choice as a tree has when it grows.

7w, if there's no connection, I don't want it. Casual or short term=boring to me, not worth the risks. I don't give money for anything aside from massage. On days off, I tend to cover food but they all have moteesais to take us around.

I ate fried frog and peeled bees in the last week with 2 week girl.

2 week girl flaked on me today, apparently for her driver's license, don't know if I believe it with other evidence at play. To cope, I got a massage from every girl at the shop= possible loss of face for her. Old girl (youngest one) is sweet as hell and has me Monday. Newest girl, met today, is so open and easy to talk to-I may spend tomorrow with her, she also wants me to go to a village with her soon and only she knows about all the others. 2 week girl is still mia/flaky and I feel over it but seeing her adorable demeanor has a history of changing that. Based on how aggressively they initiate contact/meeting again, 2 week girl is least interested. Thinking to disappear from her and see if she reaches out to me or not. She disrespected me by flaking without any call or anything and as stunning as she is, it's not acceptable.

Went to the gym today for deadlifts, pull ups, and military presses. Ate a single yogurt. Hoping for something more delicious tomorrow afternoon.

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Post by C40 » Sat Aug 25, 2018 9:31 pm

I recommend you stop spending your time so frivolously - with these girls that treat you like shit or don't know how to behave. There are plenty of women around who are good (enough) looking, and are good in bed, and are well-behaved.

When these girls misbehave like that, don't put up with ANY of it. Call them out immediately and clearly. Like one sentence: "look, I don't fuck with women that [....]". That's it, and see what they do. Usually, a woman's immediate response to being called out clears up whether you should spend any more time with her. Any excuse, deflection, or attempt to diminish the slight, or if she doesn't seem to understand why what she did is wrong, is a clear sign that she is a mess and to cut off things with her immediately. Something like a genuine and clear "yes, I messed up, (it happened because x), that's not the kind of person I normally am, I will do better (by ....) " means MAYBE she doesn't normally do this and will stop. But even then, a woman who acts like shit and needs you to call her out in order to behave respectfully is probably bad news.

Some women who are capable of being a good girlfriend do regularly test/press men. Some of it may be a type of bratty kink thing, but a lot is to see what they can get away with, or to test if you are the kind of person that will put up with how shitty of a person they normally are.

A pretty good book by Mark Mason, called Models, contains a few pointers and examples about how to call a woman out if the does the kind of things you mentioned.

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