classical_Liberal's Semi-ERE

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horsewoman wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:48 am
This "weekend-weekday out of whack" is a definite drawback to semi-ERE - my daughter has struggled with it from the start.
Yeah, it's interesting. I never had the energy to spend as much time socializing while FT working though, so it didn't really matter. I think where someone lies on the intro/extraversion scale matters here too. I'm slightly on the extrovert side, but I still need down time away from people. Since my job was people-centric, I just couldn't do it on my off days too. Many relationships suffered.
horsewoman wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 2:48 am
the gambling - this nicely illustrates how one finds solutions as soon as there is enough time to play around with possibilities! How great that you can still indulge in your hobby that way without it being a drain on your ressources.
Before COVID hit, I was considering offering weekly rides to the casino for the assisted living facilities a block from home. Looking up whatever the normal cost would be for a cab or senior bus or whatever and charging the same rate plus a few bucks. I figured my RN plus a sparkling personality would make my service a preferred one. Use their ride money to gamble and get my fill of interesting old folks stories and conversations as well (fyi those conversations are best part of nursing). This still may happen as the situation evolves.
Mister Imperceptible wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:36 am
Seems like the next progression. A few years in and I can tell you that it feels like a card game to me.
Ha! I've mostly avoided learning options because of this! You never know though... :D
7Wannabe5 wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 am
with somebody else's money :lol:
hahahaha, so you!

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Update 10/3/2020
I went out to Theodore Roosevelt National Park last weekend weekend (Sat-Mon) to hike. My GF had gone back to Iowa to visit the fam, so it was solo. This allowed me to push my hiking intensity up a notch. I did about 40 miles in two days, it was hard and felt good. But wouldn't you know it, the day after I got back home, my left knee was sore and a bit swollen. Damn... getting older sucks! I'm guessing it's just a runner's knee type of inflammation, but it's pretty painful. This sucks because I'm coming into the last couple of weeks of good weather around home and I should really stay off my bike. Making me a bit stir crazy so I thought I'd do a post.

Here are a few hiking pics. The wild life in TR always amazes me just as much as the geography.

General Idea of the Topography you hike through
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Loan Bison bull
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Here's the heard
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Wild horses, normally VERY jumpy, but I got pretty close to this mom and juvenile. I walked up very, very slowly and stopped whenever they looked at me.
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Prairie dog, they actually yelp like dogs
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There's also been a bit of interest in wine making. Here's a Pic of my closet space. lol
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The only two wines that worked out well were grape and apple. I tried a couple of mixed fruit wines that were horrible. On top there are a few bottled successes. The bottom is my fermenting batches. These are actually hard ciders instead of wine. I read they are easier to get right, but this is my first experiment with hard ciders, not sure how they'll turn out. Basically the same process, but not a lot of added sugar. The balloons have a pin hole on top to let the CO2 escape. You can see one isn't standing up up yet, it's only on day 1. If after two or three days I don't see the balloon fill, I'll probably try adding a bit of sugar and maybe a bit more yeast. With the ciders I plan to put a bit of priming sugar into the bottles for carbonation as well.

It's funny, because outside of a few tastes of other people's drinks, or booze for food flavoring, I don't drink. Rather, I havent for over a decade because I used to drink too much. So this is a bit of a strange hobby that just sort-of happened. Although it's fun to taste my creations, they are mostly for the GF, or friends and family. I think the appeal has something to do with the experimentation, and the fact that it takes weeks or months for the finished product. Anticipation is a fun thing. Plus I think it's a good tool in the tool kit, making booze out of almost anything laying around. I got the reusable glass bottles from a lady who bought them for table decorations at her wedding, she had three dozen, but I just took 12 off her hands due to my limited space. Cost-wise, the wine was about $1.50 a bottle to make, the cider will be less thanks to less added sugar.

In other news the GF got a free COVID antibody test through work. We should have the results next week. If she's positive, there is almost no way I am not. It'll be interesting to see anyway.

I ran into an old coworker. She regaled me with tales of horror from the healthcare profession that I've been missing. Not regretting my decision one bit after hearing what she has to say. Although I did have an old work nightmare the night afterwards. It was the first in quite awhile.

The GF's contract ends in two weeks. She's finally realizing that for the first time in her adult life she doesn't have her next contract lined up. It's making her a bit anxious, she's acting like i did right after I quit my job. I feel for her, but it's cute. She's talking about how to save all this money, yada, yada, yada. I told her it's like I created a monster! :lol: When we met, GF was probably a Wheaton level 0.5, I was maybe a 4. Now she's a 4 and I'm a 5.5. So while I'm trying to escape money dependance, she's trying to get as much as possible.

Went to the casino last night with $40 in free play comps and $60 in cash, I walked out with $160 in cash, it was a good night!

Thanks for reading!
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Cider and wine making - cool! I've done a bit of cider making in the last few years. From picking the apples, 'scratting' and vatting into 25 litre barrels, all good fun and quite cathartic too. Must get back to doing it! Although each time they've tasted pretty crappy (way too tart), there was a definite level of improvement. If you don't "crash cool/halt fermentation" then it will probably end up too tart too... So you might want to try experimenting with some non-fermentable sugar additives after fermentation. Hope you have fun with the experimentation anyway!

Great work on the free comps too :)

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fingeek wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:25 pm
If you don't "crash cool/halt fermentation" then it will probably end up too tart too... So you might want to try experimenting with some non-fermentable sugar additives after fermentation. Hope you have fun with the experimentation anyway!
Good to know! I don't research this stuff too much because the experimentation is part of the fun... But it also results in many mistakes. I could always crash cool them in the fridge after a couple of weeks, and/or try to add a little sucralose (I use it for my coffee) to the bottles too. Thanks for the experimentation ideas!

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"There's no mistakes, only happy accidents" as Bob Ross says! Agree too that experimentation is part of the fun.

Best thing I ended up with was fresh apple juice tbh ha ha - bottled then pasteurised in a hot pan (Google told me the temp and duration)

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You can get glass one gallon apple juice bottles at some stores. Or just buy them. Fermenting things in plastic might not be the best for your health.

ETA - if you get raw apple juice in a one gallon container, then all you have to do is set it out on the counter. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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The GF's contract ends in two weeks. She's finally realizing that for the first time in her adult life she doesn't have her next contract lined up. It's making her a bit anxious, she's acting like i did right after I quit my job. I feel for her, but it's cute. She's talking about how to save all this money, yada, yada, yada. I told her it's like I created a monster! :lol: When we met, GF was probably a Wheaton level 0.5, I was maybe a 4. Now she's a 4 and I'm a 5.5. So while I'm trying to escape money dependance, she's trying to get as much as possible.

Mark of a good partnership imo. You probably were at a lower Wheaton level in some other domain and she raised you up. I have spent lots of time with one of my kids this week. He has a lot of intrapersonal intelligence especially for one so young. Not my long suit. He knows it and pushes me (gently)in this area.

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classical_Liberal wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 1:10 pm
I went out to Theodore Roosevelt National Park last weekend weekend
Nice pics, looks beautiful. That's one place I wish we'd gone when we were up that way.

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CS wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:32 pm
Or just buy them. Fermenting things in plastic might not be the best for your health.
Buy them! for shame CS, this is ERE! :lol: Yeah I had a passing thought about plastics, but there's just too many things the internet is saying will kill me these days. I'm just gonna keep focusing on trying to avoid a Cardiovascular disease death since that's how like 95% of my family goes. Thanks for the genuine concern though, it's appreciated.
CS wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:32 pm
ETA - if you get raw apple juice in a one gallon container, then all you have to do is set it out on the counter.
This is correct as long as the juice hasn't been processed removing the natural yeasts. You still need to let CO2 vent and try to avoid oxidizing. The CO2 can make a big 'ole pressure explosion related mess and oxidizing results in more apple cider vinegar than alcohol.
Laura Ingalls wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 5:01 pm
Mark of a good partnership imo. You probably were at a lower Wheaton level in some other domain and she raised you up.
We're doing really good right now, and yes, she has raised me in many other realms. Thanks for the comment!
luxagraf wrote:
Sun Oct 04, 2020 9:20 am
That's one place I wish we'd gone when we were up that way.
It's really a great place for wildlife and hiking. Your kids would love the Bison. The nice thing is there are actually two, huge, seperate units. It's like a two-for-one :D . I'm only really familiar with the south unit because it's about an hour closer to home than the northern unit. Next year I think I'll focus on the north unit more because it's still mostly unexplored territory for me. There's actually a hiking trail, the Maah daah hey, that runs through both. It's 100ish miles. If I ever decide to train for thru hike (AT/PCT ect) that will be my first attempt. Should be able to do it in a week and get an idea of how a longer thru hike would feel.

Edit to add: If you ever do head back up, PM me or post it in the travel thread. I know of good boondocking on the national grassland overlooking the park, and a good campground with running water, fire rings, and showers nearby (you can hike into the park from there) if you wanna go the more luxurious, but cheaper than staying in the park, route.
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I popped 15 bucks at Walgreens for a knee brace (after unsuccessfully searching the local thrift stores for a used one) to help with the pain and hopefully get me back on my bike for, at least, some shorter and less strenuous rides this week. Wish me luck!

Thanks for all the comments!

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Two thoughts:
1. It doesn't surprise me that you mention pushing the hiking up a notch and knee pain. Please consider letting it completely heal before you get back at it despite the weather window closing. I have been living with chronic knee tendonitis for two years and it has changed my life for the worse despite good PT.
2. You didn't mention why some wine/cider batches weren't good but if you are going to spend money on anything get some real airlocks, bungs and starsan. I'm not an expert but I've heard the balloon method is unreliable.

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Hah, meanwhile I'm over here thinking - Tack that tendon down, pop some advil, and keep going! Winter comes too soon. It's rare I move without something hurting, so I train whatever feels good at the time. Maybe that's why something always hurts

I also wonder if you could change how you are biking, to find a motion that doesn't aggravate - adjust seat hight, use/not use clips. change rpm, etc. I see some of the guys by me zooming around the forest on recumbents. That changes the joint experience quite a bit. One had a three wheel fat tired recumbent that must have been a couple grand. I bet going up hills on that thing is horrible.

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Gilberto de Piento wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:36 pm
Please consider letting it completely heal before you get back at it despite the weather window closing.
Sorry about your pain and I appreciate the concern. I certainly "know better", as far as trying to use it too quickly. From the little I know about outpatient ortho, runners knee should really get 4-6 weeks of more or less rest. I'm only hoping that's all it is based on personal diagnosis. Every day I wake up and it feels fine, so I think I can get back on the horse. Then I walk down or up the stairs (my apartment is third floor) and my knee tells me otherwise. I'll definitely wait until I can do stairs pain free before I try anything more... It's just hard, I've gotten so used to regular outdoors exercise.

The positive here is when it does get better, I'll remember what this was like for a while and hopefully be more appreciative when my body is functioning well.
Scott 2 wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:49 pm
It's rare I move without something hurting, so I train whatever feels good at the time.
The older I get, the more generalized pain is normalized. This is different than regular soreness though, pretty easy to differentiate that I screwed something up. Otherwise, I'm with you and try to "play through" the old man pain. It tends to go away once the endorphins are pumping. The biggest difference between me now and me 10 or 20 years ago is that the getting started part hurts more. :lol:
Gilberto de Piento wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:36 pm
You didn't mention why some wine/cider batches weren't good but if you are going to spend money on anything get some real airlocks, bungs and starsan.
Just bad tastes and wrong alcohol proportions, mixing fruits might also be a bad idea flavorwise. I don't have a hydrometer, but some of them definitely had too much bite for the flavor. Another had a really bitter aftertaste. They might have worked with mixers if someone just wanted to get a buzz, but I'm looking for good enough quality to at least share with others. The batches I have bottled now passed my unsophisticated palate test, plus a couple of friends and the GF saying they taste pretty decent. Not great mind you, but comparable to a cheap store bought wine.

If I keep doing it I'll probably invest in some better equipment over time if I can get it used or on the cheap. This all started as something to do with all this bread yeast I bought in bulk last winter (baking sucks in the summer, IMO), and an unexpected influx of fruits and juices I was getting from my neighbors. I had given them my GF's old bike this spring and they reciprocated with extra groceries they were getting from a COVID food distribution site and couldn't use it all. I literally just decided to make it with whatever I had on hand. The first batch I actually just used a coffee filter to try and filter out the sediment, it was a long process and didn't work great. Later, I went and spent a couple bucks on a car fluid siphon from walmart, searched out a free source for the bottles, and started buying the ingredients (still using bread yeast though :D ).

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I'm going to plug one of my go-to books for all sorts of pain, Pain Free by Pete Egoscue. I used it after over training for a 50k left me with persistent knee pain. He's a firm believer in our bodies needing movement to be healthy. I'm a believer in this book and keep recommending it to people in many different scenarios. My most recent success story was an OR nurse I overheard complaining about her neck pain. She was doing all sorts of crazy stuff to try and relieve the pain. I'm an extrovert and passionate about this book, so of course I spoke to her about. She bought it that night for her kindle (there are plenty of used copies out there) and found me a week or so later to tell me how it changed her life. Not the first time I've heard that about this book. The only time the exercises weren't useful were for a friend who needed rotator cuff surgery, which the author says he can't help with.

In my case, the pain was gone in ONE session of the simple exercises. It has occasionally flared up since, but I spend a few minutes doing one exercise and I'm out of pain.

Here is is on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Pain-Free-Revolu ... 359&sr=8-1

Here it is on Thriftbooks:
https://www.thriftbooks.com/browse/?b.s ... oos&b.tile

Good luck with the healing.

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Nice you went to teddy's, it's a Park i greatly enjoyed visiting a the Time. I Hope your knee will heal well and soon

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I love Teddy Roosevelt too. We were there about 10 years ago. I remember our oldest was maybe seven he hiked and hiked never once complaining. I think he was to mesmerized by the landscape to complain. I also remember buffalo being “frisky” and walking through the campground grunting.

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Pretty cool pictures of the TR Park! pretty crazy terrain, not surprised you messed up your knee. I hope you feel much better.

I also consider wine making and so, any videos you could recommend to learn making wine off apple or other fruits? - I also stopped drinking 2 months ago (not that I drank too much), but I operate better without and don't have the need or feeling for it lately.

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Looks like a great trip! It reminds me of a backpacking trip I took to the Badlands years ago. That's some pretty country and great walking with all the trails from the buffalo. It's nice that you're close enough to take advantage of it.

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mooretrees wrote:
Mon Oct 05, 2020 10:30 pm
I'm going to plug one of my go-to books for all sorts of pain, Pain Free by Pete Egoscue.
Thanks for the reference. I'm pretty sure I've heard the author's last name before. Maybe in reference to PT at work or something.
Laura Ingalls wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 6:42 am
I love Teddy Roosevelt too.
It's super underrated. Part of it is probably because it's rather isolated from other popular destinations. All the better as far as I'm concerned. :D Of course ERE'ers should still come.
theanimal wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:19 pm
Looks like a great trip! It reminds me of a backpacking trip I took to the Badlands years ago.
It does have some similar qualities to the SD badlands. Teddy is nowhere near as amazing as Alaska though, at least how I see it through your pictures.
Frugalchicos wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 10:07 am
any videos you could recommend to learn making wine off apple or other fruits?
Sorry, I mostly just did everything wrong without too much research :lol: The fact I developed a few decent tasting wines probably testifies that it's not that hard to do. I'm sure going up in quality is exponentially more difficult.
Jean wrote:
Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:34 am
I Hope your knee will heal well and soon
Thanks!

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I also had knee problems this summer, once after bikepacking and once after backpacking. It took about two months for the pain to go away each time. This summer was supposed to be full of adventures but instead I decided I was too old to do this stuff anymore. It was somewhat traumatic because my focus of interest over a few years had been on getting my gear ready for longer bike touring and backpacking trips. Limping around made me feel like I can no longer can do the things I dreamed of doing when younger. Also, my main exercise was daily walking, and with a bad knee, my fitness level dropped quickly. My knee pain is gone now so I need to get back into daily walking.

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What fun! Maybe I will come out your way next spring to add some more species to my life list.

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