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. It feels good having something out there. Although now if nothing happens, I'm going to feel worse than MMM riding his bicycle back from a divorce mediation session.

Just finishing feels awesome.... and sending off is another high...acceptance is awesome. And even rejection with constructive criticism doesn’t feel too bad.

Congrats again. Creating something that never existed is a big deal!

Jason wrote: ↑

Tue Dec 11, 2018 5:13 pm

I'm going to feel worse than MMM riding his bicycle back from a divorce mediation session.

That's where I've read it for the first time. I couldn't believe it. I've googled it. Seems to be true. I am shocked. SHOCKED.

Looks like if @Jason's career as a playwright runs into bumps, he always has a back-up as gossip columnist.

Wow, yeah me too. I thought @jace was just kidding. Just goes to show you that fire is not an end, just a means to do what you want to do with the bulk of your waking hours. You still have relationships and life to tend to, etc., and fire doesn't solve for those problems.

7Wannabe5 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 08, 2018 7:57 am

In the interest of science, here are some of the numbers from accounts of early 50s female:

Age of last 20 men responding to headless shot revealing cleavage with one line personal essay on "dating" site:

37,45, 48,40,38,47,32,54,29,24,65,30,39,33,35,36,28,50,39,42*

Listen, I am the last one to start rumors, but I think its pretty obvious what happened here.

I'm going to feel worse than MMM riding his bicycle back from a divorce mediation session.

Brutal.

Imagine when its final and he has to shave half his mustache off.

Ha-ha-ha. I never followed MMM. Too mainstream (and stripling) for my taste. I like 'em more along the lines of Wheaton or Taleb.

The lean fire vs. fat fire thread is very interesting. It would probably be more interesting if I understood it.

As the year closes, I have been doing some introspection. In 12/2016 we had $350K net worth. As 2018 closes, we will be around $500k. Have things improved, I would have to say, yes. Have things changed, well, no. And I think that right there is the difference between lean and fat. Doing more or less of the same things can improve your life. Doing different things, changes your life. One is quantitative, the other qualitative.

I know MMM vs. JLF is cliche but it does provide a heuristic and I think people understand that. That's why to me, MMM getting divorced is the FIRE equivalent of Martha Stewart going to prison. They are both lifestyle purveyors who's brand won't suffer because at its root, it's superficial. One provides basic, non-threatening, non-challenging, feel-goody advice on how to clean up your financial life, the other your house. MMM shows off his upper middle class rugged individualism by posing shirtless in his backyard, Martha Stewart lounges comfortably in her spacious living room. One puts in the effort himself to maintain totalitarian control of his website, the other hires some interns.

Ask most people what they would do for a million dollars and they're thinking "Are we talking condom?". Ask most people what they would do to live on 7K a year, and they'll tell you their plane is about to take off. I think the discussion leads me to know I am the former. But I do think at least knowing the other side keeps it a possibility.

Jason, what are some 'bike-trips-to-your-divorce-proceedings'-level sacrifices you're making to reach FI sooner?

I guess its good that unlike a lot of divorced guys, MMM was riding a bicycle before he had no other choice.

But what does MMM do at this point? Does he use a white shoe attorney, you know, the kind of guy with the Rolex and the Audi, the type of guy MMM has been railing against all these years, because I'm thinking Mrs. Money Mousthalf will probably get one out of spite, because let's face it, MMM by all appearances seems to be nothing less than a tyrannical douche. And with his grandstanding I GAVE MY FIRST 100K AWAY and after spending his entire adult life not only telling the world but making a living telling the world that's he's so tight that his ass squeaks, he can't pretend otherwise. And if he goes that route, those types of firms don't seem to be the type that would even have a bike rack. I mean would he role the dice and go the My Cousin Vinny route? I don't know. Divorce is divide and conquer. Robin Williams once described it as "ripping a man's genitals out through his wallet." Maybe he takes a page out of the Stephen Spielberg/Amy Irving playbook, and whips out the feather pen and write her a big ol handlebar check.

But really, what is it my business?

As far as sacrifices, I mean besides not buying books and deli sandwiches? I don't know. But for instance, the other day I received a mid-five figure commission check and I didn't buy anything. Paid bills, the mortgage down, the $200 dollar speeding ticket, invested the rest, built up cash reserve. Maybe I'll buy the wife a piece of jewelry. But no trip or really, any external display. So I got the anti-consumerism thing down. I guess I should learn to fix some things on my own rather than spend all my free time writing this type of drivel on the internet and then having to call someone when the toilet doesn't flush properly.

The subtext of the Twitter feed is very clear.

Twitter feed?

7 is right. My guess is he hired a fancy pants attorney because its the FIRE version of a Megachurch Pastor caught boinking the church secretary i.e. the mixed PR message of "everything is great look at my feet in the pool/"we really need to keep the blog hits coming to save what we've all built here" saving the empire fundraiser. It's possesses all the sordid creep of a middle-age man going through a mid-life crisis requiring public spin. And while reading it, I'm thinking you couldn't find one phone owned by a Denver based escort who's been active in the last year without the MMM app on it.

Wait what... There is an mmm app now?

fiby41 wrote: ↑

Sat Dec 15, 2018 6:28 am

Wait what... There is an mmm app now?

is using some browser libraries considered as "creating" new apps?

nevertheless
http://mrmoneymustacheapp.com/index.html

Let the record show that Fiby41 is either (A) not a Denver based escort; (B) is the Sir Laurence Olivier of the internet.

@Jason

Perhaps, instead of writing a play, you should start a magazine like Hello writing about frugal people. Who they are dating, their affairs, etc.. that could be fun .

I had no idea about MMM's divorce - I wonder what was the problem when it seemed his life was beyond perfect...

I have benefited tremendously from the ERE community, but let's face it, the only thing thing than they are more sensitive to than spending is their feelings. So, yeah, that would be fun. I would do deep-dive investigating as well: "FrugalinSomalia Revealed to Be Trust Fund Baby" "FIREMan revealed to still be working despite claim to being retired for five years" "Mymoneyormylife" photographed using vending machine in Jiffy Lube."

My sources are whispering that there might have been a MMM love triangle. I have been unable to verify if it was a star struck post-doc he met at a TED talk mixer or simply his ego.

I'm not sure. But it has made speculate on JLF's views towards capital punishment.