Hristo Botev wrote: ↑
Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:08 pm
I appreciate that you're always there waiting in the wings to tell me where and how I'm being wrong-headed whenever I use my journal to vent my retro-world safe space frustrations, in order to maintain my sanity IRL.
ha ha ha ha, i don't know how to read that. i can read it both ways: "thanks, i welcome the feedback" or "sure, you're welcome to stay around. now fuck off"
maybe i'm a little autistic. maybe i overthink things. i don't know.
in any case, i really believe i'm trying to make reasonable points here. i guess my bias is that i see this board as a problem-solving collective. i'm not saying this is the right way to see it, nor am i saying that this must be this way. it's just how i approach what i read here. i have problems dealing with venting-- i always reply with a solution or question or something. maybe i should learn to just listen when people vent. tall order...
i'm not wholly "on the other side" of your position btw. i'm more against categorical RIGHT and WRONG. the world is complex and full of nuance. maybe i'm jesuitic.
a bit on my background, perhaps to explain.
being sandwiched in the same irrelevant generation as you (i mean we're stuck between two large groups of people that control the culture), i have shared some of the same frustrations as you with the changing mores and what is considered tolerable and intolerable in the public sphere, and well as changes in the ideological makeup of social classes.
e.g., i left a career in academia tired of the dogmatic leftist politics of humanities departments. and i went into the small business world in search of liberty. i don’t know if i found liberty, but i did learn practical capitalism and economics.
i also left a city that was being transformed by hordes of latte-sipping "liberal" hipsters with trust funds and i went "back to the land" (retro-world) for space and freedom and self-determination. (today those hipsters are probably the parents at the schools your kids left, ha ha ha.)
from the problem-solving approach (not the venting approach, i don't know how to deal with venting, im an insensitive nerd) i can see clearly that such exits were not all they're cracked up to be, and the things i rejected maybe were not so horrid after all, and that big corporations also have their good sides, and that in the countryside you often trade wokeness for pig ignorance, and that maybe--maybe--making an effort at adaptation to change can save one a long detour to nowhere or beating one’s head against a brick wall. or not. everyone lives their own lives after all.
but e.g., corporate work life may be stultifying, but small businesses can be hell. i've seen small business owners use their female employees as their private harem, with no hr department and no recourse for grievance. maybe those workers would have been better off in a big corporation with all kinds of wokeness rules? it sure beats sexual coercion (was it really voluntary?). i stopped doing business with those people, who were otherwise nice people with a weakness for sexual conquest (and boomer morality, see below), but the employees need a paycheck to survive. can they really say no? (again see below). mom and dad businesses are great? sure they can be. but maybe mom and dad are assholes too. there's no clearcut rule.
regarding the change of morality where we're sandwiched, i'll use sexual politics as oversimplification and example of changing times:
boomers: no means yes! try harder / don't be uptight (weinstein)
gen-xers: no means no! she didn't say no so i kept going (louis ck)
millennials: affirmative consent or gtfo
mores are always changing and the future will bring something else. millennials and gen-z kids will be condemned by the future as well. the ball keeps rolling. who knows where to.
so, while i found the oversensitive kids annoying at first, i can see that what they're doing is what every generation does, which is changing the world in their own image (but us genxers were outnumbered so we didn’t really get the chance). and while their approach is far from perfect, maybe it's not that
wrong in the large scheme of things. i see a lot of well-meaning, kind, earnest, well socialized kids making an effort to make things better. if they all got medals maybe they lreaned something of value in there about leaving nobody behind. and maybe the excesses you see (rogan, statues) are an expression of their actual powerlessness to change "real" things like rising oceans or police brutality. we'll find out, eventually, once they get elected to office in large numbers. but the future is theirs. we’re already over the hill.
anyway, similar changes are happening in other spheres of morality, and the people who didn't get the memo will have to learn the new rules. the kids don't have time for the gerontocracy to catch up with the changing morality, whether it's about sex or race or something else. i'm more curious than opinionated about that these days. life is a carnival.
and i'm sure one day i'll be publicly berated for eating meat. in the meantime, please pass the bacon. but maybe the kids are right that we need to eat less meat? me me me me me vs the public good? life is a negotiation but the terms are always changing. i'm open to whatever will come.
this was all to say, from the problem solving perspective, that i may agree or disagree with some assessments or some solutions, but categorical assessments and absolute solutions have their dangerous blind spots, and confirmation bias can lead to disaster. one has to always consider that maybe we're the baddies. and so maybe i'm the baddie right here right now, trying to do the right thing but failing.
anyway here's the paul krugman newsletter on "cancel culture" from this week: https://static.nytimes.com/email-content/PK_sample.html
(the sample changes each tuesday).
ok see you
oh, a lot was added since then...
ps that laughing emoji up there is no mockery, i'm laughing at my own absurdity. k.