Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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suomalainen
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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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FWIW, I would think the pushback is because it seems like you're trying to turn your personal preferences into a categorical imperative. You want to quit drinking? Good on ya, mate.

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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Certainly one is under no obligation to drink. I think the latest data shows negative impacts after exceeding a drink a day. My personal choice is 1-2 drinks, 0-2 times a week.

But, no matter what, you're gonna die. Some of the fun parts of life might get you there a little sooner. I've decided that's ok, provided I intentionally choose the risk. No sense in leaving a perfect corpse.

Having gone down the path of trying to optimize all my behaviors, seeing the life that results, I pulled back from that hard line. Giving up a hobby I really enjoy, would be a significant price to pay. I'd want to be sure it's change that improves my experience. I have repeatedly made the mistake of chasing an idealized self image, rather than embracing my true authentic self. Doing the latter is much more fulfilling, even if it leads to fewer total years.

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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I don't get why anyone could like drinking (any kind of) alcohol... The smell of it for me is simply disgusting. The taste is almost the same. Yep, the highest in the ranks of alcohol I've drunk was Jack Daniel's...

On the hand I'm planning on doing my own wine just to have it as future gift... or just method to lose last friendships I'm involved in :lol:

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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It's pretty easy to consider budgeting the tangibles, but what about intangibles? Most notably - your personal health?

Many people are unaffected. Some are positively affected. But the overwhelming majority of effects are grossly negative, or have that potential.

The worst part is that every drunk is oblivious. They too are akin to those chained to the floor in Plato's cave.

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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If you have to get drunk to drink, the benefits of abstaining are much higher. If that was my only option, I would not drink. Being drunk can be fun in the moment, but I find both the near and long term costs too high.

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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I was reading about alcohol consumption a little while ago bc there were some sensationalist stories about moms who wine, mommyjuice, etc. Amusing, but not really an epidemic I don't think. I do think women are drinking more than they ever have before and it's not a good development given their lower tolerance for it.

Anyway what counts as moderate (daily) drinking for men and women is probably pretty risky. The first stage of alcoholism, sometimes called the adaptive stage, can last a decade. All this time you are at risk of moving into dependence and commencing a journey to hell. The examples given by others above of non-daily drinking are the best way to go about regulating intake.

Channeling Ego (late of this forum), I would also say drinking can inhibit the development of more robust strategies for stress management, social networking, etc. Web of goals...

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Re: Incompatibility between drinking and ERE

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The costs are interesting here. I found growing green to cost under $200/yr, mostly for clones, fertilizer, and good soil. The real kicker is the hours of harvesting.

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