FreedomPop

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DW
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by DW » Sun Jul 21, 2019 2:56 pm

Ting is having a problem with MMS messages. But they know about it.

Lucky C
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Lucky C » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:15 pm

Thanks for the heads up on FreedomPop. I received no notification about it. I was actually happy with Freedompop as lately the service has been improved - I was able to do text and voicemail through the default Android apps rather than the Freedompop app, but this was probably related to the plan to discontinue service.

Now my freedompop.com account says that there is an exclusive Ting deal to save my number. Other Freedompop users who want to save their number, see if this works for you: https://ting.com/mobile/freedompop

Sclass
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Sclass » Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:46 pm

Yeah I’ve tried the link to no avail. One of my phones gets to the payment page. The other says it isn’t ready for transfer and I should try back in a few hours. It has been like this a few days. Eventually I’ll get it sorted.

Nomad
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Nomad » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:25 pm

The thing that alarmed me was on the page here https://uk.freedompop.com/uk?experience=organic.default it says to get started buy the SIM, download their messaging app etc. Why do I need to use their messaging app?

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Re: FreedomPop

Post by prognastat » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pm

Since the SIM/service only provides cellular data their app is effectively a VoIP app for both calls and messaging which is how they manage o count them as messages and call minutes rather than cellular data usage. You can use third party messaging/VoIP apps for those functions then it would be counted as MBs used rather than call minutes or messages.

I actually use Google Hangouts to have my cellphone number as I trust my phone number with them more than Freedompop and Google Voice/Hangouts provides free voicemail service which Freedompop charges extra for. If you want to use the minutes/messages provided with the Freedompop contracts though the only way to use them rather than use up cellular data is to go through their app.

Nomad
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Nomad » Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:37 pm

In the UK, I'm thinking of switching to Tesco Mobile. It is quite cheap and runs on the 02 network.

Sclass
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Sclass » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:07 pm

prognastat wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 2:29 pm
You can use third party messaging/VoIP apps for those functions then it would be counted as MBs used rather than call minutes or messages.
I had a funny experience with Freedompop while trying to do just this. It’s a moot point because they’re gone but it happened like this. I was at a friend’s and I tried to run a VoIP app on my iPhone that allowed me to use my VoIP provider’s number on my iPhone (not Freedompop). I was connected to WiFi. I thought it wouldn’t count towards my data or minutes because I was not really using Freedompop in any way. Funny thing was when I finished up my call using my Phonepower app, I noticed Freedompop deducted the call’s minutes from my Freedompop minute balance. My friend with me who codes messaging apps said the two VoIP apps are using the same libraries and they’re not keeping the minute balances separate. Maybe, but I thought it was kind of intentional.

Still trying to port over to Ting. One phone is good to go, the other keeps saying it isn’t ready come back later. I am so looking forward to getting my Mint Mobile sims and not looking back.

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Re: FreedomPop

Post by prognastat » Tue Jul 23, 2019 5:43 pm

Interesting, I doubt it's intentional since they don't seem to have ay messaging related to this on their website. Probably just easier to use a third party library in their app rather than building the software themselves.

I haven't prepared for the possibility of this happening to the non Sprint SIMS, but since I run all my stuff through Google Hangouts/Voice and the number is with with google too I'm not too concerned as all that would be necessary if it happened would be to get a new contract and SIM and not even port any numbers.

Lucky C
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Lucky C » Wed Jul 24, 2019 7:38 am

FWIW, Ting chat support was quick and helpful when I had to contact them (I had two FreedomPop numbers and had to remove the unused one from the Ting port). Maybe Ting chat support could help move things along. Now I'm all set with $6/month + $4/GB through the end of the year until switching to standard Ting rates.

Sclass
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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Sclass » Wed Jul 24, 2019 2:28 pm

Yeah I’ll try that. I tried chat a few days ago and they didn’t respond for hours. When they did they said I needed to go through the web portal and they couldn’t help since I was a Freedompop transplant. My new phones are in the mail. The Mint Sims are on my desk. I think I’m just going to switch over and inform everybody I have a new number. One of my phones at least can get to the port out info and password, the other seems stuck. Eventually I’ll sort it all out.

It seems the norm these days to just change phone numbers every few years. I have a google voice number that is more or less permanent compared to the mobiles.

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Re: FreedomPop

Post by Sclass » Sat Jul 27, 2019 9:04 pm

I got one of my phones ported to Mint Mobile. I’m very impressed with the quality of service and coverage. It is a big step above Freedompop. $15 a month if you commit for a year. I had to buy a new handset but the going rate for iPhone 6 unlocked refurbs on eBay is $105. I bought two. Big upgrade from our iPhone 4ss.

Unfortunately my second phone number isn’t released from Ting yet. They’re kind of holding the number hostage. I snuck the other phone’s number out through Freedompop but that trick didn’t work on the second phone. Odd because they are identical phones ordered at the same time. Totally different from the point of view of the FP database. Hoping they’ll let me port out soon.

Mint has some neat deals. They sent me a trial sim that works for a week to see if I liked the service before buying. I didn’t bother using it. Also, I got their $15/month rate on a three month period rather than the 12 month period they usually require for that rate. I’ll just have to remember to refill a year in three months.

It seems that a lot of MVNOs are offering this level of voice, text and data (unlimited, unlimited, 3GB) for $12-15. I guess that’s the level where they can compete at. Freedompop was just too crazy with the Fremium model (200 min voice, 200 texts, 500MB free). I’d stay way under their limit and only pay $1 per month for voice mail. It was a pretty sweet deal. I had five iPhone 4ss going at one point. Three of the phones didn’t have voicemail or MMS so they were free. Oh well, that doesn’t sound like a lasting business model.

So I have these old iPhones. There is certainty a use for them. Music players and cams at least. They work over WiFi but the browser is old and crippled.

Ok. Fingers crossed I’ll be able to release my wife’s number for porting.

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