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Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Tue May 05, 2020 6:41 am
by bmjohnson35
I'm afraid I don't know our average usage, but the local kWh rate is 10.8 cents per kWh and our bill averaged around $60 per month last year. The two of us live in Central Florida in a 2700 sq ft 2-story townhouse. We will both be home full time in 2020, so bill may go up slightly. Our unit has two A/C units. Our main energy users are air conditioners and the water heater. We generally don't use the heat at all during the winter.....maybe once or twice at most during a season. During moderate days in the "winter" months, we open the windows as an alternative to air conditioning. We also only turn on the water heater for 30 minutes a day. I always take cold showers, but the spouse likes a warm shower. Otherwise we wouldn't turn on the water heater at all, except for guests. We eat at home most of the time. Our high months are Jun, July, Aug & Sept. Our bill can get up to around $175 during the hottest months. We try to keep the temp around 76 degrees F during the warmer months and will let the house get down into the 60's in the winter months. We use cold water for washing clothes and dishes. We don't use dishwasher and we wash clothes one day a week and we use a dryer to dry our clothes. We have kids and grandkids over at least twice monthly. We use LED lights throughout home and watch more TV that I would like to admit. Wife doesn't care for microwave, so most food is cooked on stove or in oven and inside toaster oven or air fryer.

Our electric is lower than our water/sewer bill during some months. Our water is around $62 a month, regardless of usage.

Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Sat May 09, 2020 8:35 am
by Saltation
In terms of usage I think it is appropriate to convert therms to kwh and then total them up. That is what I will do. When my wife and I moved to our home (2050 above grade square feet) the average bill at this address was $178.00 per month. I am unsure of actual energy usage breakdowns. We have been in our home for ~14 months and if we budget billed the bill would now be 123.00 per month. In terms of actual fixed charges they total $455.52 per year. Fixed charges constitute about 30% of our actual bill. As DLJ previously posted in our area energy conservation saves us about $10-20 per month on average giving us very little incentive to actually reduce our energy consumption.

Total electricity usage for 14 months: 8,133 kwh.
Total natural gas usage for 14 months: 817 therms x 29.3kwh/therm = 23,938 kwh.

Total 14 month kwh: 32,071

2,291 kwh/month

Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:25 am
by Alphaville
i went down to 350kwH per month for two people in march-april but now i fear it will go up due to a/c usage at night due to unavoidable sleep requirements.

Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:13 pm
by niemand
Three person household here. On average we used 6.4kWh per day over the last year (my town‘s average for three person households is 14.4kWh per day).

As per the usage log obtained from my electricity retailer we use 3kWh of the 6.4kWh during light hours. As I installed solar last month*, light hour usage is covered by solar now (aka free), meaning we should only get charged for 3.4kWh going forward. In addition we will also receive solar grid feed-in credits from the system’s overproduction.

* My 2.64kWh capacity solar system is projected to produce 9.5kWh per day on average, but depending on season production will range5 kWh per day in winter to 15kWh per day in summer.

I’m expecting our rates charges will drop by 75% vs. last year. I shall report back when I’ve got a year’s worth of data.

Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:22 am
by Der Leiermann
Great thread.

Our (couple of 2) unit in Australia is around 80m2 with ducted gas heating and terrible insulation (windows, walls and floors have basically no insulation, only the ceiling has some cellulose incorporated). Water is also heated using gas.
We use electricity for the stove, oven, computer, etc

Gas usage: 1,270 kWh per month or 42 kWh per day. Cost AUD 133 out of which 21% are for the supply charge. So approx AUD 0,20/kWh.
Electricity usage: 165 kWh per month or 5,5 kWh per day. Cost AUD 108,5 out of which 32% are for the supply charge. So approx AUD 0,44/kWh, quite pricey compared to the US. Interestingly, in my areaa household of 2 apparently uses 12 kWh on average so we are using less than half of the average.

Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2020 5:16 am
by niemand
[Rant] To my surprise, when I received my first electricity bill after getting Solar installed, I found out that I was switched into a new tariff that is no good for me and that I apparently can’t get out off (unless I turn my PV system off).

Turns out that Ausnet, the monopoly^h^h^h^h^h^h^h^h distributor that supplies all the electricity in my area, can force the electricity retailers in my area to limit their tariff offers, and is forcing solar homes like mine into time-of-use tariffs, wtf :evil:

Seems nothing can be done about this. Complaints to the ombudsman by other victims^h^h^h^h^h^h^h solar owners went nowhere in the past.

Gone is a chunk of the savings I was projecting! This is something I did not have on the radar when I invested in Solar back in May, and I’ll have to rejig my simulations to see what this means in terms of ROI. It was an unknown unknown to me and I’m pretty sure payback will take longer than originally anticipated.

Alas, what to do, what can be done?

I’m contemplating buying a chunk of Ausnet stock (ASX:AST) when the price is right. Then the fuckers^h^h^h^h^h^h^h company will pay me a dividend which will offset their tariff rip-off^h^h^h^h^h^h^h change. A la if you can’t beat them, buy them :twisted:

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Re: Energy usage log

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:38 pm
by Lemur
Umm...been a long time since I've calculated this. But our Sept. bill was $135.00 which comprised of the energy charges, distribution charges, taxes, etc., IOW the full bill.

We used 1126 kWh. The energy rate was $0.057379/kWh. Math says this cost us $64.61. The bill says $69.92 @ $0.0621 energy charge. Close enough.

I was interested in finding this information about my utility service:

Renewable Energy: 16.13%
Conventional Energy: 83.87%

My state by legislation has to reach a 25% energy target by 2020....

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles ... Republican.

In the meantime....Lemur needs to create habits to emit less CO2 in the air. We do well in the Spring/Summer but start getting FUBAR'd in the winter. I thought we were at least beating the American average...being environmentally conscious and all....but we lost.

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php? ... er%20month.
In 2019, the average annual electricity consumption for a U.S. residential utility customer was 10,649 kilowatthours (kWh), an average of about 877 kWh per month. Louisiana had the highest annual electricity consumption at 14,787 kWh per residential customer, and Hawaii had the lowest at 6,296 kWh per residential customer.

Thermostat Wars it is....

Things that cost us electricity....

- Heating / AC
- Oven
- Water Heater
- Air Fryer
- Refrigerator
- Washer
- Dryer
- Various phone charges
- TV / Ps3
- Laptop
- Portable Fans
- Lights