Durable shoes

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Stahlmann » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:29 am

I visited web Skype using google search (logged with my data) (no google acc). Then I typed "drying norwegian welts" (mine are somehow int his type, outer side is leather). First result is this topic :o :o :o (I am in very diffrent place than normally).
I am near mountains. Don't have acess to car boot (ok, it was about smell, but seemed good for drying). It's raining outside. Central heating doesn't work (summer time). Is using hair dryer good idea? (the same for sleeping bag)

They won't probably last 18 years :lol:

Also severe (for me) blisters occured.

Emergency! Help wanted!

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Gilberto de Piento » Mon Aug 07, 2017 12:18 pm

I think it would be ok to dry the sleeping bag with a hair dryer as long as you don't get it too hot and melt it. That said, I think it will take a very long time. It usually takes a long time in a real dryer. Go slow and be careful. Can you just hang the bag up and wait? Do you have a fan to help it dry?

I think a hair dryer is going to be too hot for the boots. There are tools called "boot dryers" for this purpose but they are much cooler than a hair dryer. If you get the boots too hot it will damage them.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by C40 » Mon Aug 07, 2017 1:02 pm

If you dry boots with a direct heat source (like a hair dryer), it will shorten their life.

The way you're supposed to dry them is:

First:
- Clean them off
- Take out the insoles

Then: you can do some, or, I guess, all of these:
- Set them out in the sun
- Put something absorbent inside them (newspaper, towel, rice, silica gel, etc.)
- Use a fan to blow air in them

If it's raining outside, the best thing is probably to put paper towels or something absorbent inside them for an hour or so, (really stuff them in there), then if you have a fan, take those out and use the fan to blow air into the boots.

Hang up the sleeping bag to try. Blow it with the fan. If you have a clothes dryer, you can probably put it in there on the lowest heat setting. If the only thing you have is the blow dryer and you really want to use it, use it without the heat on, if possible, or on the lowest heat setting.


It's best if you can avoid getting these things soaked in the fist place.


https://www.backcountryedge.com/videos/ ... king-boots

https://bootmoodfoot.com/dry-wet-work-boots/

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by bryan » Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:20 pm

The sun is not a direct heat source? :lol:

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:32 am

I now suffer from some kind of skin desquamation of my foot. Good news is that it isn't itchy. It started after 10 days I used my gear like Jesus. Unfortunately I wasn't able to float on puddles. OK, more seriously it's almost impossible not to get wet after walking 30 minutes plus in rainy, mountain environment (or maybe I don't know something).

My questions:
0. Has anyone obtained (outer) high dryness after walking in rain for 2-3 hours? I've achieved that only in rubbers. Is polishing such a big thing for leather made products?
1. I met guy who used alpine gore-tex shoes in not so high mountains and he recommended them (he used them in Alpes successfully). Has anyone considered synthetic gore-tex boots as viable alternative to leather based Norwegian welts (in terms of Holy Grail for their lovely feet)?
2. How do they manage dryness on long-term mountain hiking? Especially in below freezing temperatures. It's now beyond my comprehension. I've got some experience with (really) short-term climbing in winter, but I was able to put my boots in front of the fire place for the whole night.
3. I see something what looks like fungus on inner side of my Norwegian welts, on wooden (?!) insole part of the boot. Am I lost?
4. Musing on BIFL part of living out of the suitcase:
How about good shoes for sport? I think adding soccer to the our programme can make any gear wear fast. So let make soccer out of the question.
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Re: Durable shoes

Post by George the original one » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:20 am

Did you use mink oil or other water shield on the boots?

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:06 pm

I think I polished them with some pasted, which guaranteed semi-level of water-proff.
I will try get oils mentioned in your post and review them :P

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Post by jacob » Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:57 pm

0) Polishing and greasing is a big thing. If water isn't pearling off as if on a goose, it's not good enough. Keep in mind that rubber never breathes and tex and polished leather don't breathe either when it's covered with water on the outside. In those cases, sweat eventually builds up from the inside. This is why people use wool socks to absorb it.
1) *Tex is a viable alternative, but I've heard the membrane breaks down after ~1000km. Dunno if this was just sales talk. Acknowledge that while rubber boots are water proof, the best you can hope with tex and well-polished leather is water resistance.
2) Gaiters. And not stepping in puddles. There's a trick for getting across water that's less than about 3-5cm deep. Run/walk fast so your foot is out before the water splashes back.
3) That does sound pretty bad. Do you live in a swamp?
4) No such thing as BIFL for sports. I look for cheap solutions on amazon ... shoes in ghastly colors are often discounted.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:30 pm

jacob wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 4:57 pm
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3) That does sound pretty bad. Do you live in a swamp?
...
Well, I made a mistake. I meant it looks like moldiness. I doesn't smell. Or I'm just overreactive, but it bugs me a little bit. I'll provide photos tomorrow.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by fiby41 » Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:01 pm

Stahlmann wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:30 pm
I'll provide photos tomorrow.
OP did not deliver. :'( :cry:

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Nov 01, 2017 3:28 am

fiby41 wrote:
Tue Sep 19, 2017 12:01 pm
Stahlmann wrote:
Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:30 pm
I'll provide photos tomorrow.
OP did not deliver. :'( :cry:
Nope! 8-)

https://www.flickr.com/gp/153167562@N05/S9W1w2


So this is what I had seen when I tried to describe situation with my boots in August/September (after 7 days in mountain conditions, being a bit careless of dryness).

I went past buying 10ml bottle of magic formula for 10$. Found old school method based on formalin. Bought this substance. Applied to shoes. Just poured 100ml (40% solution of formalin) in every piece.

Carious odor is replaced by chemical scent of mentioned substance. Formalin didn't "annihilate" moldiness. I hoped it would do so.

So I still see this white/green efflorescence.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by conwy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:06 pm

I can put in a good word for R.M. Williams boots (bought in Australia).

Owned a black pull-on pair for about 3-4 years. They're super-comfortable, tough and durable, non-slippery on wet ground, still look nice after a polishing.

The plain black pair I own are very versatile and I can easily wear them with a full suit all the way down to a jacket and tee.

I've travelled miles in them, and they're the only shoes I own apart from a pair of MUJI sneakers, for walking/jogging/exercise/casual.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by jacob » Sat Nov 04, 2017 4:11 pm

@Stahlman - Are you sure it's mold ... not something that just rubbed off the insole? You are using insoles, right? If not ... then something that rubbed off your socks .. or fell into the boots, or ...

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by jennypenny » Sat Nov 04, 2017 5:19 pm

To get the mold out, scrub vigorously with something that won't scratch the surface like one of those plastic puff things for the shower (wear a mask and safety goggles!). Then rub the affected area with a solution of warm water and vinegar to remove the mold and other residue. If that doesn't work, rub them with water with a drop or two of bleach in it.

My son had problems with mold in his shoes. I'd clean them like I suggested above but it would come back. It was only him, so I assumed it was something from his soccer field or something on his feet that was introducing the mold into his shoes. We finally figured out how to prevent further growth -- after we cleaned all his shoes again, he placed a new dryer sheet into each one religiously after he took them off. He never had a problem after that. Make sure you use ones with formaldehyde like Bounce, Gain, etc. (not the 'natural' ones -- they won't work). I'd also suggest adding vinegar when washing your socks.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by Noal » Tue Jul 17, 2018 10:03 am

The Jacob boot post was rotated round not so long ago on the main blog. Hanwag must have read it at some point as these bad boys are now available in black :lol:

https://www.hanwag.com/shop/hanwag-grun ... 7761283378

I love the browns myself. I think I'll invest in some serious boots when my cheapos fall apart.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by cmonkey » Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:30 pm

George the original one wrote:
Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:11 pm
George the original one wrote:
Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:30 am
Necrothread...

Last year I was introduced to Georgia Boot Company's Romeos (slip-on low top boots) when I saw someone wearing them while wading/fishing. Looked into them, but decided they were too boot-like for office wear and not really suitable for summer wading/fishing shoes. However, now that I'm retired, no longer going to an office, and my current pair of Merrells failed, it suddenly made sense to try them. Same price as the Merrells, so little to lose and potentially a lot to gain, but it will be a few years before I know whether they outlast the Merrells.
One year later: the Romeos are holding up. Sole is not showing signs of wear, seams are not fraying, and the leather shows no sign of wearing through where my feet don't match any shoe shape. I've abused them with dirt and the finish has one deepish cut from a sharp rock or something. All indications are they are a better value than Merrells have ever been. Like all shoes, the fit has relaxed a little bit.

So how are these after 2+ years? I figure you are in the garden as much as I am. How are these for letting your foot breath while doing physical work?

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by George the original one » Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:40 am

cmonkey wrote:
Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:30 pm
So how are these after 2+ years? I figure you are in the garden as much as I am. How are these for letting your foot breath while doing physical work?
Still going strong and I've been abusing them by not keeping up with waterproofing and cleaning. Plenty of tread left for a couple more years. No thin spots in the leather uppers yet. The binding has not worn out anywhere. They do stretch, maybe a half size larger now, but a thick sock can take care of the slack. I've been thinking about a second pair now so I'm not without them should something happen to this pair.

Breathing... hmm, I don't notice a problem, but then I don't usually notice that with any shoes unless they're really horrid. I usually slip off shoes when I get in the house.

One downside is the lug sole tracks in extra grass clippings and mud. Wife complains about extra sweeping from tracking dirt into the house. I complain about the grass clippings that need vacuuming out of the cars.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by George the original one » Tue May 14, 2019 10:41 pm

George the original one wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 11:40 am
Still going strong and I've been abusing them by not keeping up with waterproofing and cleaning. Plenty of tread left for a couple more years. No thin spots in the leather uppers yet. The binding has not worn out anywhere. They do stretch, maybe a half size larger now, but a thick sock can take care of the slack. I've been thinking about a second pair now so I'm not without them should something happen to this pair.

Breathing... hmm, I don't notice a problem, but then I don't usually notice that with any shoes unless they're really horrid. I usually slip off shoes when I get in the house.

One downside is the lug sole tracks in extra grass clippings and mud. Wife complains about extra sweeping from tracking dirt into the house. I complain about the grass clippings that need vacuuming out of the cars.
2019 update. I'm buying two new pairs of the Georgia Boot Company's Romeos. My quirky right foot, the one with a large bunion, has caused the leather to crack and I'll probably wear through pretty soon. The rubber soles have continued to hold up. So lifespan is easily double what I was getting with Merrell shoes.

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Re: Durable shoes

Post by mferson » Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:49 am

I like wearing my Dr. Martens Combs. They are very comfy and light in weight.

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