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Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:14 pm
by sky
This guy has a nice apartment garden setup, starting at 4:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG5s33LfbEM

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:21 pm
by Alphaville
sky wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 4:14 pm
This guy has a nice apartment garden setup, starting at 4:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG5s33LfbEM
ah, the subtropics! NICE.

cabbage microgreens look particularly good but it's the key lime that makes me jealous :D

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm
by sky
Where's the banana tree?

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:35 pm
by Alphaville
sky wrote:
Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:27 pm
Where's the banana tree?
hah, there is a permaculture guy somewhere around taos i think who grows indoor bananas--in a roofed courtyard. i forget the name but yeah they have a semitropical garden in the high desert. obviously bigger than an apartment, his setup.
bloodaxe wrote:
Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:53 pm
Anyone ever try the PEA (Permaculture Experience for Apartments) badge on Permies? https://permies.com/t/126834/PEA-Core-Philosophy-Badges

Looks useful for learning permaculture skills that can be used outside of apartments.
edited: i didn't spot the "apartment" bit till after a while! ok. interesting curriculum, and i've stared to browse it. thanks for the link!

eta: under the dimensional lumber woodworking badge: "Build a vermiculture bin to process kitchen scraps. " :D YES.

https://permies.com/t/129505/PEA-Badge- ... oodworking

it's a bit like the cub scouts lol. anyway, great suggestions there! i'll use as template. much to do...

looks like i get the electricity and cooking badges and community living and commerce by prior experience

round wood... im a terrible carver, i give up apriori--maybe some day with a lathe :lol:

animal care, done most. textile is too easy.. natural care, done but from a different tradition. nest, done & done. tool, done. greywater have done (but not here!) oddball: possibly?

lacking: gardening. :x (ive grown plants and have plants, but nothing as sophisticated/detailed as that badge requires)
lacking: metalwork
deficient: foraging
missing bits: animal care (never done worms)

looks like gardening and metalwork and worms are next... and maybe operating a lathe :lol:

plus electronics cuz i wanna.

plus shoemaking! important (for me)

brilliant project, this index you got going.

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:39 am
by ertyu
i have a bit of a dumb question, can composting be done in apartment conditions without worms? Videos on youtube either send me to some kit i can purchase or involve set-ups that seem too elaborate and needlessly complicated. What is the straightforward way to maintain soil on one's balcony?

I ran into this with sewing a lot. "Do X thing for cheap!!" --> "I used some scraps I had left over in my sewing room and changed 3 different types of foot on my sewing machine then ran it through my serger" :lol: when what one needs for sewing is thread, needle, scissors, and patience (or a podcast or two). What is the thread, needle, scissors equivalent of apartment composting?

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:38 am
by Alphaville
ertyu wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:39 am
can composting be done in apartment conditions without worms?
basically... no. discussion may be upthread (or elsewhere perhaps) but regular composting methods require volume, heat, natural fauna, etc, not suited for apartment.

best thing you can do is get some red wigglers. these don't have to be purchased, you can get them from someone who has too many. once you have some they reproduced and then one day you have too many.

as for the bins, you can just use cheap plastic ones like @white belt did, no frou-frou furniture required. i'm just doing it that way becuz.

there's another method using something called bokashi but that it seems to me requires perpetual purchase of digester creatures in powder form. or maybe there is a way to self -supply but seems to me a more difficult proposition.

try the red worms! and a box. @wb posted: https://homegrown.extension.ncsu.edu/wp ... -sheet.pdf

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:59 am
by ertyu
thanks a bunch, shall read the link you posted!

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:24 am
by white belt
Alphaville wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:38 am
there's another method using something called bokashi but that it seems to me requires perpetual purchase of digester creatures in powder form. or maybe there is a way to self -supply but seems to me a more difficult proposition.
Apparently it is possible to do bokashi with just lactobacillus (no commercial products required):
https://bocashi.files.wordpress.com/201 ... sting1.pdf

I believe with your yogurt making projects that you may have some related domain knowledge (technically bokashi is just fermentation, not composting).

Re: Apartment homesteading?

Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:55 am
by Alphaville
white belt wrote:
Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:24 am
I believe with your yogurt making projects that you may have some related domain knowledge (technically bokashi is just fermentation, not composting).
yes! thanks for that, will study for future use.