Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

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sizzlinkola
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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by sizzlinkola » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:56 am

RFS wrote:
Wed Feb 21, 2018 5:11 pm
I'm reading "Deep Work" by Cal Newport,...
I have read his book too and I wholeheartedly agree. Use Facebook in a way that it gives you the most value of any other options you have at pursuing your goals in life.

For example, when I was in college, Facebook was how I kept up with all the different clubs and events on campus, in addition to meeting new people and developing my relationships. I was also on Instagram and Snapchat. I'm a young professional now and that value is no longer needed in my life. Sure, social media can help you maintain your relationships by keeping you in the loop, but there are much better methods to do that. You don't really need to know what someone is up to all the time.

I only use Facebook for its' Messenger app now, for texting my long-distance SO and friends. Instagram and Snapchat have minimal value for me, such that I can have conversations with select friends based on their posts/stories. However, I find that it can quickly become a rabbit hole of scrolling endlessly, which I think is not worth the having the app.

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by Stahlmann » Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:29 pm

I came back to FB, but with more purpose.

Wanted to join local dumpster diving community, met with guys who thinks they aren't small fishes at forex (there is growing [maybe I've just discovered it...] community of traders in my country. I also was keen on joing bushcraft group, where I wished to get answer how to spend the weekend in forest (this illegal according to the letter of law in any case). Tried use it to meet "real people" and use freebies from different group of people.

I actually found German conversation group I joined 2 times for free (on different acc).

I created. Provided real phone number. I spend 15 minutes setting it to be private (just ticking box) in menus. Then.. I set ads to be untargeted. I set data to show rentier at retired living at Nowhere (there is such place or just field :D).

Started looking for gals I've "met" on other site (on date site I used photos practically the same as my "attempts" 2-3-5 years ago. Same BF. Bigger glasses. The response comes from 20-25 years old women. There is this interesting tendency... 18-20 is probably for outliers in sexual market) . Well.. I think there're not so many bots there [dating site]... Maybe I'm wrong here :lol: Probably this the least interesting/important factor.

Got "banned" :| :| :lol: :x :evil: :roll: They ask to provide photo. Did this. I think they will ask for my ID.

Happened on burner acc, there I provided photo of ID which was cirrculating internet (guy used part of logo of footbal club in his signature). I also provided face of said guy. Added black dots to change hash of photo. Then was fierce "discussion" with pseudo-real guy who had only one answer.

Well... have good day anyway, dear ECHELON user/agent :D :lol:

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by FruGal61 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:16 pm

"I see kids checking their FB, Instagram, Snapchat, etc apps every 8-15 seconds, and it makes me sick. It reminds me of Harrison Bergeron, the Ray Bradbury short story, where the naturally intelligent character has a bell inserted in his mind that rings every 8-15 seconds, so he can never have long form thoughts and becomes stupid."

Yes. It is very sad for us older folks who know who Ray Bradbury is to witness this. It is also sad for this older...well, OK, as they say in France: "une femme d'un certain âge" to witness what has happened in the last 10 years with Facebook hijacking our lives and how we communicate. Bien sur, some of us are willing participants. I was reticent for a long time but peer pressure prevailed and about 10 years ago I opened an account. My natural shyness notwithstanding, I started posting and oh boy, people from all over were giving me attention! It was instantaneous! Woweee, so many compliments when I changed my profile photo - my id, superego and yeah, my ego too were getting all sorts of massage! And it was free! I got hooked. Still, I was (and am) a rather private person so I was a bit discreet, was not the type of person who would post what I made for dinner.

Then...after about 9 years....456 friends later, the fleshy white underbelly of Facebook sickness continued to reveal itself. I was really starting to dislike people I would normally LIKE in real life. Their online Facebook persona was a turn off. The daily obligation to "like" and then "love" "Wow" and "sad" became a chore. Resentment set in. And yes, this included family members. The constant posturing, bragging, pontificating, begging for validation by - um, middle aged people. People of a Certain AGE. Like - WELL over 50. The narcissism. DEAR Lord (if there is one) - I wondered - do I KNOW these people? What the hell is GOING ON??? I want my life back before FACEBOOK took over! I want these people back when I only got to think about them, oh, maybe about twice a year and now I'm obligated to spend each and every day acknowledging what they cooked for dinner, their promotion at work and giving them the obligatory "LIKE" so they can puff themselves up? OH MY LORD - this is getting out of control.

And wait, there's more! Do I have to GO ON people's vacations WITH THEM? Each and every day, dutifully approving of their travel photos? Jeezus H. Christ. Yeah, your vacation looks awesome but are you really enjoying "being away from it all" while you're spending your precious time at (exotic location) bragging back to the people back home? Doesn't sound like you are getting much R and R.

Clearly, I HIT THE WALL. I'm done. I am not your cheerleader, person I went to high school with who I haven't seen in, oh 40 years. I do not have 1-2 hours free to "Like" your every thought, your every photo, your political view, your accomplishment, your meal.

Phew, I feel so much better now. I vow to spend more time in nature, breathing, looking at the clouds, smelling the flowers, more time talking - with the human voice - to people, real humans, more time reading books, more time relaxing and not hitting the "like" button. This is MADNESS.

"I am so honored to announce I have been named "blah blah blah blah ". Dear Lord. Is this your 15 minutes of fame? Don't you see how effin' pathetic you ARE? I am SAD.

Facebook is.....(fill in the blank). I think you know I feel. ;-)

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by FruGal61 » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:37 pm

Oops, except it turns out that Harrison Bergeron was a Kurt Vonnegut (another great mind) creation.

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by J_ » Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:36 am

@Frugal61: thanks,it gives me insight. I have never tried FB and such.Whattsapp is what I use for a small circle of family and dear friends. It is sufficient for me.

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by TopHatFox » Fri Mar 30, 2018 7:10 pm

Read a book titled Kids These Days: Human Capital and the Making of Millennials.

One of its arguments is that social media has acted as a platform for people, especially young people, to boast their human capital. For example, a toned body, pretty face, exotic vacations, education, new job, etc etc. This has lead to people's self-worth and egos becoming entangled with the number of likes they receive, or don't receive.

Just another reason to avoid the whole fiasco. That said, I think FB, Twitter, and especially Intagram are the main culprits. I have found Meetups to be pretty good for finding like-minded people to spend time with IRL.

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by RFS » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:22 pm

@TopHatFox - Snapchat has filters now that edit your face to make you appear more beautiful. Bigger eyes, bigger lips, sharper jawline, exfoliated skin, all that stuff. You can see exactly who viewed your story (a batch of your clips that you curate for the public), too. I see students make stories that are 90% edited selfies, then check their view number constantly. It must be indescribably harmful for a developing brain.

I really like this Bo Burnham bit on social media. Ironic, given that he first blew up on YouTube.

"I was born in 1990 and I was sort of raised in America when it was a cult of self-expression, and I was just taught, you know: express myself and have things to say and everyone will care about them. And I think everyone was taught that, and most of us found out that no one gives a shit what we think...They say it’s the ‘me’ generation. It’s not. The arrogance is taught or it was cultivated. It’s self-conscious. That’s what it is, it’s conscious of self.

Social media is just the market’s answer to a generation that demanded to perform, so the market said “Here, perform everything, to each other, all the time for no other reason.” It’s prison, it’s horrific. It’s performer and audience melded together. What do we want more than to lie in bed at the end of the day and just watch our lives as a satisfied audience member? I know very little about anything, but I do know this: that if you can live your life without an audience, you should do it."

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by thrifty++ » Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:00 pm

Facebook doesnt create any issues for me. I am in it because there are some useful chat forums I have joined through it and also to keep in touch with family and friends. I adjust my privacy settings to increase privacy when I want it. I also hardly post anything myself as I would rather people dont know what I am doing and give no shits about what other people think of me - no desire to brag. I also enjoy some of the random and interesting things that come up in my news feed. I often discover about lots of events I am interested in as well as invites through it. I ignore the bragging and often when I get annoyed with people being narcissistic I take the piss. Like when I get sick of someone posting selfies I will put a funny photo underneath it. Food selfies bug me more so when people do that I sometimes post something disgusting underneath the food. Overall I find it useful and it doesnt get me down as I dont care about the stuff that gets others down.

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Mon Apr 16, 2018 10:19 am

I haven't used FB in a few years, but I haven't deleted my profile. Unless something changed, I believe when attention whor... people post up all the pictures they're taking, they are able to tag people in them. I don't use my real name on my profile, so my hope is that they're going to tag my pseudonym, instead of thinking "oh, he doesn't have a profile, I'll just write in his real name so that he can bask in the glow of having his likeness attract all this delicious, gooey attention!"

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Re: Eliminating Facebook from our lives?

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:46 am

RFS wrote:I know very little about anything, but I do know this: that if you can live your life without an audience, you should do it."
"First let's go see a football game. A professional football game," Frances said, because she knew Michael loved to watch them. "The Giants are playing. And it'll be nice to be outside all day today and get hungry and later we'll go down to Cavanagh's and get a steak as big as a blacksmith's apron, with a bottle of wine, and after that, there's a new French picture at the Filmarte that everybody says... Say, are you listening to me?"

"Sure," he said. He took his eyes off the hatless girl with the dark hair, cut dancer-style, like a helmet, who was walking past him with the self-conscious strength and grace dancers have. She was walking without a coat and she looked very solid and strong and her belly was flat, like a boy's, under her skirt, and her hips swung boldly because she was a dancer and also because she knew Michael was looking at her. She smiled a little to herself as she went past and Michael noticed all these things before he looked back at his wife. "Sure," he said, "we're going to watch the Giants and we're going to eat steak and we're going to see a French picture. How do you like that?"
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