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Post by jennypenny » Sat Oct 08, 2011 9:44 pm

This is so exciting!
OK, so does FOOD include gardening? Cooking? Recipes? Shopping? Hunting?


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Post by bigato » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:06 pm

We do not have a good index or map yet. This is also something for us to talk. Wiki's are not very organized by the way, and anyone can organize a map at any time. So do not hold yourself and start writing!!


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Post by bigato » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:43 pm

Wiki is FUN!


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Post by bigato » Sat Oct 08, 2011 10:45 pm

Now if someone set up a irc channel my free time is over...


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Post by jennypenny » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:28 pm

Children? Alternative housing(rv, boat)? College/education?
Not sure if these require their own category.


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Post by jacob » Sat Oct 08, 2011 11:35 pm

As far as I understand, things can easily be moved around later.
Or are we making regrettable editorial decisions already? I'm thinking about how I initially chose my blog "categories" only later to realize that they were suitable at which point it would/will take 40+ hours to go through all my posts and change them.


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Post by bigato » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:03 am

In an wiki we do not run this risk as the content is loosely coupled to the organization of the information. You can have multiple articles, freely linking to one another, and you may create multiple index and map pages. But we may need to merge and separate things at some point.


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Post by KevinW » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:12 am

It's usually fairly easy to reorganize things. It does take *some* effort so it's worth putting a bit of thought into layout ahead of time.
In general, though, IMO it's best to just throw content in there, and not worry too much about organization until there's enough stuff to organize.


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Post by bigato » Sun Oct 09, 2011 2:31 am

Hi Kevin. You are invited to write a short explanation of PP, along with some links for further stuying!


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Post by Surio » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:24 am

@Jacob,

This one's for you.
Why should one create a new account for the wiki? Can't we use the same account info we use for the forums over there?


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Post by jacob » Sun Oct 09, 2011 4:39 am

@Surio - Because different programs aren't necessarily compatible.
bbpress and wordpress actually are, but it's a pain to integrate them --- also some people prefer NOT to use the same account everywhere.
Incidentally, creating wiki accounts isn't all that crucial. It's only if you want credit/glory for your work. For example, I have two accounts there.


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Post by KevinW » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:27 am

@bigato

Will do, thanks for the invitation.
To expand on my previous statement --- for a given wiki topic, only a few people can add valuable content, but almost anyone can edit and organize existing content. So as a rule I think it's best to "bias to action" and encourage any and all new writing, even if it's haphazard and needs to be cleaned up later.


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Post by Surio » Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:29 am

@Jacob,

> bbpress and wordpress actually are, but it's

> a pain to integrate them

I'll go with that. :-)
> Incidentally, creating wiki accounts isn't all that crucial

It is, if you wished to edit something (or discuss in the talk page). Ohh... Having bashed heads with rams in wikipedia for a while, I am not looking forward to the "talk" page.... :-|


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Post by bigato » Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:52 am

Wow guys, how is that for a short PP explanation! Take a look at what Kevin did there. Thank you very much!


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Post by rjack » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:19 pm

@Jacob - I made a few edits, but I noticed that the links to help (expecially editing help available when editing a page) are empty. I added an external link to the standard MediaWiki help, but I'm not sure it is the same version of MediaWiki. Did those pages originally exist and then you deleted them? Or was there an option to install standard help pages?


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Post by bigato » Sun Oct 09, 2011 1:26 pm

rjack, I think it is good the way you did.


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Post by jacob » Sun Oct 09, 2011 5:08 pm

@rjack - I haven't deleted anything (I don't know how :) )


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Post by KevinW » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:00 pm

@bigato

Thanks, though after I typed all that in I felt like I had only scratched the surface.


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Post by jacob » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:00 pm

Is there any special wiki markup to make a table?


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Post by jennypenny » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:18 pm

So what happens if you don't agree with some comments or methods that someone put up on the wiki? What if you think information is slightly inaccurate?


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Post by rjack » Mon Oct 10, 2011 9:56 pm

@jennypenny - You create a formal review committee and then...just kidding.
You edit it or delete it! The content evolves over time.


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Post by bigato » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:42 am

If someone is going to delete or significantly change some content that other has put on the wiki, it would be a good measure of politeness to click on the "Discussion" tab over the article and try to talk there first. Or open a thread on these forums about the subject in question.


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Post by Surio » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:43 am

I second bigato's points about talking about it in the page's "talk section" first. It gets tedious (based on Wikipedia experience) but it is the only available correct way of moving forward in these matters...
If we can't resolve it all, we can always go to Jacob, like this comic strip... :-D and Jacob can pull a Caesar on us, just like that strip too ;-)



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Post by seeker » Tue Oct 11, 2011 7:11 am

I just read the PP-part yesterday, great job! One of the most easily understood texts on the subject I've read!


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