A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

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A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:09 am

I have resisted using the iCloud for privacy concerns. I have no doubt there are ways for those with sufficient means or knowledge to access the data on my phone, but hell, I don’t want to make it easier for them.

My iPhone battery is 4 years old and requires replacement. Apple recommends I perform a data backup before battery replacement. Am I best off using iTunes or are my fears unfounded?

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by prognastat » Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:49 am

I'm not too worried about storing/transferring my data through the cloud, but that of course depends on the level of privacy you think your currently have and how private your data being stored is.

Though in the end there really isn't any harm in backing up to iTunes rather than through the internet so really just do what you prefer yourself.

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Augustus » Tue Jan 22, 2019 12:56 pm

IMO it's a matter of time before any of the cloud providers get hacked and there's a massive password dump. So I'd say yes, you are correct to be concerned. I would not put anything that could harm you (finances, identity theft targets, compromising photography) on cloud backup solutions. It's pretty trivial to setup your own backup solution, just costs $$$. Easiest is just getting a spare external hard drive or two and remembering to run it every month or whatever. More advanced and expensive would be a synology raid setup, which I highly recommend, and they're super easy to use, and automated, they even have a drop box clone with versioning so you can go back a few versions if you lose something.

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by C40 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:53 pm

Android is WAY better in this regard.

For things like pictures and music (and maybe others, idk) you can just plug an Android phone into a computer and move the files off like from an external drive. Apple intentionally makes it hard as fuck, automatically does a bunch of cloud stuff, and soon tells you about how you're near your data limit and you better start paying, and prompts me like 15 times a day on my computer to enter an icloud password and I've never figured out how to get that prompt to stop coming up. :-/

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:56 pm

C40 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:53 pm
prompts me like 15 times a day on my computer to enter an icloud password and I've never figured out how to get that prompt to stop coming up. :-/
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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by chenda » Tue Jan 22, 2019 2:41 pm

C40 wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 1:53 pm
Android is WAY better in this regard.
+100. I fooking hated iCloud in the end, so unintuitive to use. Android it's all backed up in one place on Google, so easy and organised.

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by BRUTE » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:15 pm

what is on the phone that needs backup?

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Campitor » Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:21 pm

The best way to keep a secret is never to share it. Storing data in any cloud infrastructure is equivalent to sharing a secret. Store your sensitive stuff locally on a non-internet accessible system with a super strong password. Unplug it when not in use. I prefer a storage device with a mirroring configuration to avoid data loss; encrypt the data.

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by niemand » Wed Jan 23, 2019 5:58 am

If you’re concerned about privacy I’d be wary of Android and anything else owned by Google/Alphabet.
Google’s profit model is to sell your information to advertisers. I try to limit my exposure to them.

Also consider that ultimately all cloud services’ security can be compromised, and your data could be out there after a breach.

Like Brute I can’t think of much backup-worthy stuff on my phone, except maybe a few photos. For computer stuff, different story. I do all my personal computer stuff on my work laptop and don’t own any other PC device.
Therefore I’m using the free - but amped up to 18 GB - version of DropBox. As an additional step I use 256-bit AES encryption on every folder I consider sensitive.
It’s not perfect but it’s probably enough :geek:

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Wed Jan 23, 2019 10:21 am

BRUTE wrote:
Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:15 pm
i could tell you but then i would have to kill you






jk, mostly hawt pix maybe

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by BRUTE » Wed Jan 23, 2019 9:13 pm

well, why doesn't Mister Imperceptible just copy those files to his computer manually? backup done.

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Re: A Luddite Asks: Should I Be Worried About the iCloud?

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Wed Jan 23, 2019 11:45 pm

yes yes, I know this is to be done.....I need to get a new computer....my concerns about the iCloud as an interim solution were validated

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