Alternatives to Google News?

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by UK-with-kids » Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:40 pm

I like to get my news from "The Week", a British magazine which I have delivered through my door every Friday. I previously had a subscription about 20 years ago when I lived overseas and before the internet was a thing, but this time I started getting it as an alternative to finding myself addicted to online news. Usually after a week there is enough news to fill the magazine and I find it more efficient and less distracting to just spend an hour or so catching up once a week.

The best thing about it is that the magazine style and format is 99.9% identical to the way I remember it from 20 years ago. I quite like things that don't keep changing all the time.

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by rameshff » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:05 pm

@jacob

does http://theoldgnews.com/ work for you?

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by jacob » Mon Nov 12, 2018 6:39 pm

Wow! Yes!!

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by OTCW » Mon Nov 12, 2018 10:27 pm

UK-with-kids wrote:
Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:40 pm
I like to get my news from "The Week", a British magazine which I have delivered through my door every Friday. I previously had a subscription about 20 years ago when I lived overseas and before the internet was a thing, but this time I started getting it as an alternative to finding myself addicted to online news. Usually after a week there is enough news to fill the magazine and I find it more efficient and less distracting to just spend an hour or so catching up once a week.

The best thing about it is that the magazine style and format is 99.9% identical to the way I remember it from 20 years ago. I quite like things that don't keep changing all the time.
Newsweek was the last magazine I had a subscription to. Not sure if they are even around anymore. I'd love to go back to a once weekly print edition of the news. The Sunday paper here is awful, or I'd go with that.

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by Stahlmann » Tue Nov 13, 2018 4:32 pm

I read jacob posts. I'm not convinced by praise of old google, probably need to apply this technique for looonger time.

However...
New google -> just title of article
vs
"old google" (I'm talking about substitute provided above) -> title + 1,5 sentence per news.
In both cases you're allowed to click to follow article (well...) and in both cases there're "follow up" boxes.
You probably know the "taste" of each newspaper after few read articles (unless there's some rebrand/lay off/new hiring, but it doesn't happen often)
Yes, on high res settings new design is just a waste of so much space.


However, I had something deeper in my mind when I posted my last post:
[most investors/people are] completely uninformed (very few people can tell you the current oil price, as well as the USD/GBP rate, what kind of men's wear is currently popular, which is the best-selling CPU, and what the AGW implications are for Arizona),
GN seems good for such purposes (many sections on one site in range of few clicks). But question is... how do you remember that on 1-6 mo. scale? Of course, somebody can open (for example) USD/GPD ratio chart anytime he wants, but I suspect that's not most effective and simply looking retrospectively nobody is "more informed".

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by jacob » Tue Nov 13, 2018 5:25 pm

There's something called "google brain". Google allows you to look all these things up separately as does a library. However, if the data does not exist in your brain, it's not possible to ask questions that combine these things, because google will not do that for you. If you want to [ask this], some structure has to exist in your brain that allows you to do this.

Another example might be how I stare at https://finviz.com/map.ashx for a few minutes every day. These patterns are then "burned" into my mind along with all the other news I read. So I remember what news causes specific changes in clusters of companies. (It was absolutely frustrating when finviz changed the map some months ago because I'm a visual thinker.) I suspect there are way more neurons involved in this process than if someone who hasn't gone through that process tried to pull data up on a chart along with a stock of old newspapers. Over time, what goes on in the world get associated with different patterns.

Relying on input like this might suggest I have google-brain when it comes to input. This is why having my input formats changed on me is so disturbing.

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by UK-with-kids » Wed Nov 14, 2018 3:04 am

There's a quote about how humans tend to overestimate the implications of change in the short term but underestimate them in the long run. Maybe the best source of news is the long term version. Instead of constant articles about how the robots are coming and we'll all be using autonomous vehicles next year, something that looks at where technological advancements are taking us as a species. Instead of news of the latest spat with Russia or China, analysis of the slow decline of Western civilization. Summary weekly and monthly newspapers do at least have to focus on what really happened over the reporting period, rather than filling a daily or hourly front page with "news" for its own sake. Maybe the ideal frequency for newspapers is once every decade or so. :P

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by tsch » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:21 am

Maybe the best source of news is the long term version.
That's the premise of "The Correspondent"—pitched as "unbreaking news":
https://thecorrespondent.com/
https://boingboing.net/2018/11/14/jay-r ... my-ne.html

Though the frequency is somewhat more than a decade. :)

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by thegreatvoid » Mon Nov 19, 2018 6:44 am

if anybody is looking for an alternative to youtube, since it´s no longer a free speech platform , I´ve been using a site called bitchute.dot.com lately . Lots of content

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Re: Alternatives to Google News?

Post by prognastat » Mon Nov 19, 2018 2:33 pm

@thegreatvoid

I wonder how well they will be keeping up considering stripe had already severed ties and now paypal has too.

If you can't get paid things become tough quickly.

Then of course there is still the problem that there is little to no money in investigative journalism on most online video platforms. So though there may be a lot of political discussion/information available actual journalism is still pretty scant.

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