Garden Log

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Re: Garden Log

Post by J_ » Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:00 am

@Jenny, good to read you change to more "good life" than always toiling!
And for privacy: you can perhaps leave the (long ?) border with your neighbor as it is and only make some shrubs around your favorite sitting area. In our little garden we have one tactical placed beautiful evergreen shrub. So that we can be naked kissed by the sun without being seen.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by jennypenny » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:18 pm

I'll have to think about whether I can add privacy around the areas where we sit instead of trying to add privacy to the whole yard. I don't know if I'd risk sunbathing in the nude though ... my dog likes to jump the fence and I wouldn't want to have to go chasing after him in my birthday suit. I'm sure my neighbors would agree. ;)

Maybe a combination of something like the sunflowers along the fence and some strategic shrubbery will work.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:50 pm

7Wannabe5 wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:59 am
Did you trap any wireworms?
2 weeks after the last post regarding wireworms... YES many trapped! I should be planting potatoes this week, so I started pulling up the traps again and most of them had a dozen swarming the bait. Now I'm thinking of delaying potato season until applying beneficial nematodes.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:23 pm

@GTOO:

Cool. The weather here has continued terrible with ice storms this past week. Fingers-crossed, I will finally be able to get the party started at both project sites this weekend. Amish shed build up north, and cool crop transplants in urban garden.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:10 pm

The thing about establishing a new orchard (especially when you try to get fancy with espalier techniques), is that they take time. 3-5 years and sometimes one or two more. Fortunately time is on your side when it comes to fixing pruning boo-boos!

The past couple of gardening sessions have involved stringing the guides for the espalier apple trees. The trees are starting their third season in the ground, so I'm a little late with the espalier support and glad it's done. Branches were tied to the appropriate guide, pruning cuts made as needed, and whole tree sections removed when I broke branches that I thought would bend <ahem>. Well, they have a couple more seasons to get into shape before they're allowed to bear fruit.

Patience. It's all starting to take shape, beginning to look like the picture in my head. I'll add a pair of pear trees next year.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by enigmaT120 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:56 pm

I'm trying to keep our newer trees small, dwarf sized without the dwarf root stock. I read about the technique in Mother Earth News and bought the book. It's too late for most of my fruit trees. In the meantime, here are some shots from my flower garden:

ImageOrchids by Ed Miller, on Flickr

ImageOrchids by Ed Miller, on Flickr

One is a Calypso orchid, the other some type of coral root orchid. The Calypsos are really spreading in my woods. I guess they approve of my forest management.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Tue May 01, 2018 8:45 am

enigmaT120 wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:56 pm
I'm trying to keep our newer trees small, dwarf sized without the dwarf root stock.
Yeah, I'm definitely not a fan of dwarf root stock, though I like semi-dwarf.

Never thought to plant orchids. Yours look very nice!

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Tue May 01, 2018 12:58 pm

The weather has been getting better and better. Looks like no more nights below freezing. So ... I have taken up (apartment) gardening as a hobby, huzzah! Starting small with this arugula sprouted from seed.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by enigmaT120 » Tue May 01, 2018 11:33 pm

Ha George, I didn't plant those orchids. They are very difficult to propagate. Mine are just spreading naturally.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Sat May 05, 2018 11:46 am

Planted corn back on Wednesday. Earliest I've ever bothered planting corn, but the 10-day forecast looked hopeful & I'm "cheating" by using a large sheet of black plastic to help warm the soil.

Also planted beets, more lettuce, and more green onions.

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On the wireworm front, I applied beneficial nematodes about a week ago. Can't say the results are all that good, but it was only one application. A few smaller wireworms died, but when I tilled pathways to clear weed seedlings yesterday, I stared at how many big, lively wireworms were scrambling for cover. 65F soil temperatures are not enough to make them lively, but 75F soil temperatures (60F-65F air temp) show that they can be very active. Consequently I've ordered another shipment of beneficial nematodes and will apply them on a warm evening right after tilling. [note: that's warm for my climate, not what most people would consider warm, LOL!]

Reading a bit more on wireworm problems gave me another suggestion on how to deal with them. Highest activity levels are April-May and September-October, so planting potatoes in late June is better than planting in April. Apparently the wireworms burrow deeper into the soil to seek cooler temperatures. Holding off planting my spuds now... looks like they'll be well-chitted!

Flooding fields worked in some locales while drying fields out worked in others. The idea is to set conditions to the opposite of what is normal for the habitat. Since I live in the land of rain, where rain storms bring 4"-6" per day in the winter for up to a week, it would seem I should seek to dry the soil.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Sun May 06, 2018 6:21 am

I'd like to recycle used coffee grounds for my garden. From what I've read, used coffee grounds have a neutral pH. Does anybody have any experience with this?

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Re: Garden Log

Post by jennypenny » Sun May 06, 2018 4:06 pm

We're hurriedly getting the garden planted before we head out to DD's graduation this week (one off the dole!). We aren't expanding this year since we're working on some indoor projects. It will all be in by Wednesday ... tomatoes, peppers, zucchini, and herbs. I have two full beds of tomatoes since I like to grow a large variety. It will include German Johnson, Brandywine, Purple Cherokee, beefsteak, big boy, Rutgers, and sun gold. I added a bigger variety of cherry and I'm not growing Roma this year. I didn't use them like the others. I'm doing more basil this year because I never have enough and I'm trying Thai Basil. We're also doing a small section with hot peppers. (Ten bucks says my dopey dog will eat the hottest one and cost me a trip to the vet.)

The wildflowers didn't reseed as hoped. I'm trying to decide if I want to reseed every year or plant perennials. I'm considering expanding the herb garden into that area instead.

In better news, the strawberries are doing great. I think I've finally figured out where they are happiest in the yard. They are full of blooms already. This is year 3 since planting and they look great and have filled out the bed.

We love the fire pit area we put in last year and use it all the time. It's so relaxing to sit out there with a drink. It's also a nice way to get rid of my junk mail. :)

I'll take pics when everything is in. It won't be that impressive this year but I'll enjoy it just the same.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Mon May 07, 2018 10:51 am

jennypenny wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 4:06 pm
The wildflowers didn't reseed as hoped. I'm trying to decide if I want to reseed every year or plant perennials. I'm considering expanding the herb garden into that area instead.
That's a pity. Wildflowers are beautiful!

Good luck with your garden.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by cmonkey » Mon May 07, 2018 10:01 pm

Mae wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 6:21 am
I'd like to recycle used coffee grounds for my garden. From what I've read, used coffee grounds have a neutral pH. Does anybody have any experience with this?
Yes they are pretty close to neutral. They will not acidify your soil. They have a fair amount of nitrogen and help to loosen heavy clay soil quite a bit.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Thu May 10, 2018 4:46 am

Happy with the growth of arugula in a pot.

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Seeing as arugula isn't rooted deeply, I am considering recycling an old bonsai pot I have and grow some more. I can start this project up as soon as Wednesday.

I got a strawberry plant from a friend's garden last week ... including a leaf rolling caterpillar. I keep the plant in a pot, so hopefully, getting rid of the leaf and caterpillar will be enough to save the plant. Should I check for anything else?

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Thu May 10, 2018 2:29 pm

Mae wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 4:46 am
Seeing as arugula isn't rooted deeply, I am considering recycling an old bonsai pot I have and grow some more.
Arugula turns into a knee-high shrub with roots running nearly a meter deep if you let grow to maturity. The seed from one plant is more than enough to keep a gardener supplied. You can plant the seeds densely if you want to harvest young arugula for your salad.

Strawberry plants are pretty hardy. There may be more local pests to look for so that you're not bringing anything bad into your home. Pluck off any moldy leaves, even if it's only tiny dots.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Thu May 10, 2018 3:54 pm

George the original one wrote:
Thu May 10, 2018 2:29 pm
Arugula turns into a knee-high shrub with roots running nearly a meter deep if you let grow to maturity. The seed from one plant is more than enough to keep a gardener supplied. You can plant the seeds densely if you want to harvest young arugula for your salad.
Oops, my mistake. (Revealing myself as a newbie gardener who doesn't know anything about plants.)

I'll look into collecting arugula seeds. I found this info: http://urbantomato.ca/collecting-arugula-seeds/

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Fri May 11, 2018 7:31 pm

The sweet corn sprouted in 8 days. Now I'm wrestling with the varmints that uproot the tender shoots, same ones still pulling up pea plants (grrrr). Seriously considering overplanting the sweet corn next week.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Sat May 12, 2018 2:11 pm

Yay, first pea blossoms appeared in today's burst of sunshine!

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Re: Garden Log

Post by cmonkey » Mon May 14, 2018 8:45 pm

So I'm pretty sure the midwest has officially left a pattern of 4 seasons and entered a pattern of 2. The last 3-4 years for sure and this year is turning into the same. We just jump from 30's and 40's (in which nothing will grow) to 85-90 degrees in a matter of weeks. There is no in between anymore!! 4 weeks ago today a massive blizzard shut down north Iowa and southern MN. Now look at it! *

It's really maddening because spring and fall crops just aren't growing very well the past few years. All my spring transplants are bolting, despite being under shade clothes.

*Looking at this map, maybe it's the whole country?

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Re: Garden Log

Post by George the original one » Mon May 14, 2018 9:12 pm

cmonkey wrote:
Mon May 14, 2018 8:45 pm
So I'm pretty sure the midwest has officially left a pattern of 4 seasons and entered a pattern of 2.
If you're located near a body of water (like the Pacific Ocean in my case!), it will help moderate conditions as you get a marine layer of clouds or fog in the morning and then it cools down nicely when the inevitable breeze/wind arises.

To illustrate, while Portland's temperature was 87-90F today, here on the coast it was only 65F. Despite the low air temperature, though, that sunshine was HOT. Even without the morning cloud cover (like yesterday), we're still 10F cooler than Portland because it begins cooling down at 4p instead of 6-9p.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by jennypenny » Tue May 15, 2018 4:05 pm

I agree cmonkey.

Strawberries are ripening already. All the other plants look good. I need to figure out what to do with the area where the wildflowers were last year. I might just expand the herb garden.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Fri May 18, 2018 12:32 pm

I haven't killed any of my plants yet.

*knocks on wood*

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Re: Garden Log

Post by cmonkey » Fri May 18, 2018 12:51 pm

I've never heard of arugula becoming a shrub! Maybe it's a different arugula. It will definitely bolt if it get's the least bit stressed, so I'd recommend planting outdoors if you can.

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Re: Garden Log

Post by Mae » Fri May 18, 2018 1:05 pm

I don't have a garden so a pot is the only way to go. :(

(The packaging of the seeds just says arugula, so that isn't very helpful.)

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