Post your MB Personality Type

[enigmaT120]

I always come up with a schizoid personality type. I must be taking the wrong test.

[7Wannabe5]

I was trying to figure out what type would best meet the description "smart for a jock" and I happened upon this http://thoughtcatalog.com/heidi-priebe/ ... lity-type/ Cracked me up with its accuracy. Since I am very light on the E in my ENTP, my high school identity was exactly a cross between the description for ENTP and INTP. IOW, I was the girl most likely to get anonymous obscene phone calls from fellow student in AP Chemistry but nobody ever thought that maybe I would like to be invited to play Dungeons and Dragons and I tried to drop out of school and just read my way through the library when I was 15 but I was busted and sent to alternative school for a term with all the burn-out thugs and I tried to seduce my favorite English teacher but I bought myself a Vic 20 with my babysitting money etc. etc.

Anyways, was also able to verify that my recent ex is an EXTJ. All makes sense now. I can not be with the Hall Monitor.

[GandK]

Your personality type: “The Advocate” (INFJ-T)
Strength of individual traits: Introverted: 100%, Intuitive: 83%, Feeling: 87%, Judging: 23%, Turbulent: 54%.
Role: Diplomat
Strategy: Constant Improvement

[GandK]

@Peanut It is probably a long walk from "preference" to "destiny". I am also heavily introverted, doesn't mean I don't occasionally acknowledge the need for human connection and override that preference to get some.

Ditto. I got 100% introverted. That doesn't mean I don't like to connect with people... I love it, as long as its genuine. It means it wears me out to do it, and I need a lot of people breaks.

[fiby41]

Above posted link explains why people get different personality types when they take a re-test

The primary method for testing reliability is to give the test to a person on two occasions. This procedure is known as “test-retest reliability." Typically, the test-retest interval can range from several weeks to more than a year. Because type is said to be a constant characteristic, we would expect that people's personality would not change over time. Several studies, however, show that even when the test-retest interval is short (e.g., 5 weeks), as many as 50 percent of the people will be classified into a different type.

The reliability data of the MBTI bring into question the stability of the test. How is it possible that there can be a change in personality, across a short interval, when such a change should not occur? The reliability data also bring into question whether there are meaningful differences across the preference categories.

[jacob]

And this link also posted above explains why that psychologist has a rather simplistic understanding of the MBTI as well as why there are issues with retestability.

Psychologists are notorious for their factor analysis fetish which is why they like the Big5 instead. Now, it so happens that the five dimensions in the big 5 are approximate linear combinations of .... guess what ... the 4 dimensions in the MBTI --- which is why the psychologist see the "mixed vector" and proceed to complain(*) about correlations(**). In other words, they cover the same dimensional space. The issue psychologists seem to have is that the MBTI isn't statistically clean. However, mathematically speaking, that doesn't mean that it doesn't cover the space.

(*) A mixed vector necessarily have to have correlations with a subset of its components, so this is not a valid complaint.

(**) By the way, factor analysis has the same "problem", because it relies on an outside a priori definition of the factors. Not that I have a problem with a priori assumptions, but it does mean the Big5 isn't more pure or holy than the MBTI. To avoid these assumptions entirely, one has to use principal component analysis. However, with PCA there would be no way to name the dimensions beyond "1", "2", ... and then we wouldn't be able to write psych-papers ;-P

Consequentially this complaint smells a lot like a Not Invented Here-issue.

A tool is only as good as its user. If the MBTI is approached with a factor-analysis mindset and simply throwing data/test-results at the problem, it will predictably fail. Conversely, because Big5 is only a factor analysis model, it's impossible to make any explanatory statements, because a factor-analysis is ultimately just a descriptive analysis of one's a priori factors.

They both have their place and the disagreement is likely mainly because of a [mistaken] belief that they're supposed to serve the same purpose.

[GreenBike]

Beeing INTJ , recently discovered through this excellent blog, I vastly prefer having some Beers and watching the Avatar movie, or possibly the Lord of the Rings DVDs, then reading some about the latest discoveries in Cosmology, or possibly trying to understand the development of Religions or the principles of Evolution ....

I'm guessing that the US President candidates and similar people are MB testing very differently, wondering what type they belong to ? Or what about Madonna, Miley Cyrus or Mick Jagger ? Guessing not INTJs !

[JasonR]

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[Spartan_Warrior]

How does the robot handle the mutually exclusive questions that I lied about?
I like being alone (100% no) and I like being with people (100% no).
Should it's head not have exploded?

That's not inconsistent, really. The robot probably just assumes you're one really unhappy meatbag.

[jacob]

This makes me confused. You can change 50% of your answers and are still the same person...?

The simplest explanation is that each answer sends you along some vector into 4D space and ultimately it adds the all up to figure out where in MBTI space you live. Then based on previous answers from a calibration population and knowing their MBTI types from elsewhere, it matches you to that population. If it's a clever robot, it uses something more snazzy than mere linear algebra. Don't assume that each question directly tests just one particular dimension.

Bonus question: What does this say about the EJs in the calibration population?

IHow does the robot handle the mutually exclusive questions that I lied about?

Enhanced interrogation, obviously

[1taskaday]

7wannabe5 so disappointed for you!

Who would not want to be with the hall monitor? ... all that power and scrutiny...

Write that book,would be so fun to read.

[Peanut]

@cmonkey: Well, for a 99%! rating I would expect someone who never engages with people online, let alone frequently for a whole year, and someone who would definitely not (want to) be married. I don’t understand how online convo can be understood as taking place entirely in one’s own mind? It’s not like you’re creating the dialogue. More like an email penpal. Maybe you believe in miracles, but I generally don’t. Faulty diagnostics or definitions seem more likely to me.

[jacob]

@Peanut - As Dragline would say ... "You keep using that word/concept. I do not think it means what you think it means." Online convo provides a much cleaner as well as a delayed signal that allows an introvert to reflect on what is said. Compare this to a transcription of what's said in person (includes visuals) or over a phone (just voice). Such things contains an enormous amounts of noise ... uhhh ehhh.. ermm ... repeat ... shout ... uhhh.. repeat again ... irrelevant ... hahahaha .... irrelevant ... already stated ... repeat previous ... uhhh hahaha! That involves a LOT more noise an requires real time processing. Introverts tend to pay equal attention to the noise but because they go deeper than extroverts, they're wasting tremendous amounts of mental energy on extrovert communication style.---Or even introvert ad lib communications. Introverts tend to pay a lot more attention to quality than quantity and thus their buffer is overwhelmed and they stop processing in an IRL situation.---Or maybe more accurately, introverts require a higher S/N ratio because they don't posses the pre-filter that extroverts have allowing them to ignore all the noise.

[Peanut]

@Peanut It is probably a long walk from "preference" to "destiny". I am also heavily introverted, doesn't mean I don't occasionally acknowledge the need for human connection and override that preference to get some.

Ditto. I got 100% introverted. That doesn't mean I don't like to connect with people... I love it, as long as its genuine. It means it wears me out to do it, and I need a lot of people breaks.

Yes, that was my basic understanding too--that social interaction drains energy from the introvert. According to that definition my DH is an introvert, even though he becomes the center of any social gathering. But it always seemed weird to me because nobody would describe him as an introvert. Only 'funny,' 'knows how to have fun,' 'irreverent,' etc.

I confess I am biased because my MIL is a big Meyers-Briggs proponent just because she went to OSU in the 60s and learned it in her Psych 101 class. I, like someone else on the thread, thought it had since been largely discredited. If some remapping of it unrelentingly persists, well and good.

[GandK]

I confess I am biased because my MIL is a big Meyers-Briggs proponent just because she went to OSU in the 60s and learned it in her Psych 101 class. I, like someone else on the thread, thought it had since been largely discredited. If some remapping of it unrelentingly persists, well and good.

That whole paragraph sounds strange to me. First, what does your MIL use Myers-Briggs for? It's just a way of communicating about people's similarities and differences. It's useful to know someone is an ESFP when you meet him (assuming you know what that means), just like its useful to know he's from Idaho, and a Quaker, and a 75-year-old vegan who rides a bike everywhere. Each of those things changes the way you perceive his words when he speaks and hopefully helps you to understand his point of view a little better.

And second, M-B isn't really fact based, so I'm not sure how it can be either credited or discredited. In the case of this thread it's people indicating, in an unscientific online test, what they tend to prefer. Who's to argue with them? And the test spits out a handful of labels and a synopsis of how people with those labels tend to behave... which we more or less just indicated ourselves through the test. Who's to argue with that, either?

[zarathustra]

Your personality type: “The Architect” (INTJ-A)
Strength of individual traits: Introverted: 56%, Intuitive: 27%, Thinking: 37%, Judging: 52%, Assertive: 34%.
Role: Analyst
Strategy: Confident Individualism

according to this test i've become more introverted since the last time i tested; something i think i already knew.

can INTJ's be good partners together? i've been seeing and INTP and it's driving me bonkers.

[steveo73]

From that test I was an ENTREPRENEUR (ESTP-A). I think that's funny because I have no interest in starting a business. I do like to push things though.

[7Wannabe5]

1taskaday said: 7wannabe5 so disappointed for you!

Who would not want to be with the hall monitor? ... all that power and scrutiny...

Write that book,would be so fun to read.

Well, my lack of J manifested at age 15 is amusing to me but my lack of J manifested at age 49 is still too mortifying. I am (now )pretty good at not going into the donut store if I don't intend to eat a donut but I still haven't quite worked out what to do if the donut possesses motive force. Besides, bit of a cop-out since individuals who are very high-functioning are supposed to be able to get along with any other type. Somewhat in accordance with "All happy families are alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way."

jacob said: ]Introverts tend to pay equal attention to the noise but because they go deeper than extroverts, they're wasting tremendous amounts of mental energy on extrovert communication style.

As an ENTP who has been in close relationship quite a few serious introverts (father, closest sister, ex-husband, son) one thing I have noticed is that that introverts who are also thinkers (father,son) do not mind my stream of babble but the introverts who are also feelers (ex-husband, sister) can very quickly become overwhelmed by it. My son is an INTX and he clearly recognized and assigned importance to pattern before he became fully verbal. Once threw a screaming tantrum for an hour before I figured out that he didn't like the fact that I had changed the orientation of the rug in the living room (the stoic exo-skeleton is not evident in infancy but pretty much fully formed by age 6 or so, although at that age it is often difficult to distinguish between a stoic philosophy and oppositional-defiant behavior when somebody informs you that they will not do what you have asked them to do even if you take away all their toys) He told me that he forms entire sentences in his mind before he speaks. I can't even imagine doing that-lol. Could explain why an introvert would have much less difficulty with written communication.

[zarathustra]

I heard from a psychologist, an P herself while I'm an J, that the P/J letters manifest themselves very differently

Yeah I think my sentence was misleading. I am seeing an INTP but was wondering if INTJs can be compatible/happy together.

[7Wannabe5]

I think it should be fairly apparent to any member of this forum that INTJs like and respect their own type very much but don't often catch fire as couple. Plenty of wood but not enough spark (high testosterone, low dopamine?)IOW, tend towards being locked dominants. Gotta climb on his lap and loosen his tie type. Speaking from pure theory here, of course....