Playing with fire docu

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Berninger
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Playing with fire docu

Post by Berninger » Sun Mar 24, 2019 12:52 pm

Hi,

Anybody here knows when we can watch this docu? I saw a trailer in 2018, and it said comming in jan 2019.

Still can't find when the release date is...

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8941986/re ... t#releases


https://youtu.be/kD8uNm5ck0Q

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Re: Playing with fire docu

Post by C40 » Sun Mar 24, 2019 10:17 pm

I saw someone talking about it on a FIRE Facebook group and they said it is quite some time out from being finished. (like many months or maybe years)

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Re: Playing with fire docu

Post by Fish » Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:28 am

The subject of the documentary (Scott Rieckens) also wrote a book of the same name which was published in January.

My initial pessimistic reaction was that it was a rather shameless (but clever) way to monetize a FIRE journal/blog. However, as an easy-moder I found their experience very relatable; they started with an after-tax income of $142,000 and expenses of $120k with a spending goal of $50-60k for their family of 3. The author’s journey starts at Wheaton level 0 (boat club + BMW lease) and ends around 4/5 (dinners at home + $6.5k used car).

They make some of the big decisions, like cutting the car leases, moving away from the expensive San Diego suburb, and sticking to their budget by declining to buy their dream house in Bend, OR when it escalates into a bidding war. They experience challenges like maintaining a social life without dining out and trying to stretch $92 into Christmas gifts for everyone. They also find out what it’s like to talk about finances and FIRE with friends and family, in some cases realizing that others were more enlightened than they had expected. I found all of this authentic and admirable.

While they hit many of the mainstream (fat)FIRE boxes, there’s a bit of a N=1 element in that a lot of their choices were shaped by virtue of the fact that the FIRE documentary was the plan for their 1 year life on the road. They rub elbows with popular FIRE gurus repeatedly as they attend Chautauqua, FinCon and Camp Mustache. The trip to Ecuador seemed a bit over-the-top given the initially dire financial situation but they found it worth every dollar even though all the presenters already give away their advice for free on the internet. Though I’m inclined to roll my eyes at parts like these, I was glad that they said “yes” to things that I would have said “no” to, if only to see how things would turn out.

Jacob gets a very brief mention (name is misspelled :|). Also, though I think the author deserves praise for clarity of prose, the writing style is rather plain and simple compared to regular print nonfiction, but would feel right as a FIRE journal or blog. It should be noted that the book was written during the year author was going through the FIRE journey, while being filmed day and night for the documentary. Oh, and he was also raising a 2-year-old kid. Put into perspective... it is remarkable that the book even exists, and that Scott and Taylor (his wife) are definitely well above the average even neglecting the income dimension.

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Re: Playing with fire docu

Post by Fish » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:48 am

It’s been released since May but they’ve crowdsourced the distribution by having their fans contact movie theaters to arrange screenings. 5% of ticket sales is offered as an incentive to organizers. Remaining special screenings with cast in Detroit (July 16), Sydney (Aug 14), Melbourne (Aug 19) and NYC (Aug 29). Details: https://www.playingwithfire.co/events

Duration is 76 min. The Danish hamsterhjulet documentary was 55 min. Reviews of PWF are generally positive from within the FIRE echo chamber; here’s a link to one of the better ones: https://vagrantmed.com/playing-with-fir ... ry-review/

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