AI.. our future or demise?

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I am not sure if it's because I haven't been paying attention or if this is a relatively new development, but a stock that I am heavily into, OKTA, spiked 6% yesterday and I was trying to figure out why, and I found this article. When I got to the end, there was a disclaimer that it was written by Ted the AI with a picture of a Teddy Bear who was "born" last December. It gave me the creeps not just because my Nana had a one eyed teddy bear that made me cry but because I just read an entire financial article thinking it was written by the typical anonymous creepy internet person but was in fact authored by Winnie The Fucking AI Pooh who was created by the typical anonymous creepy internet person. It was like realizing the woman who is giving you a lap dance is actually a guy, an experience I only know about because someone else related it to me.

https://iwatchmarkets.com/2019/04/10/ok ... -climbing/

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The articles on that site attributed to ted seem more like spun content combined with boilerplate text that values get inserted into. There's a lot of repetition across articles. I would define it as "automated" but not "artificial intelligence" but maybe there is more to it than I'm recognizing.

I remember hearing a podcast years ago that automation was going to take over repetitive writing for local news (articles about the weather, local sports summaries, etc.). Seems similar to this. I wonder if that ever happened?

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Gilberto de Piento wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:58 am
I remember hearing a podcast years ago that automation was going to take over repetitive writing for local news (articles about the weather, local sports summaries, etc.). Seems similar to this. I wonder if that ever happened?
It's definitely happened in financial reporting to the point of making free articles nearly useless or at least subjective to some light detective work to root out the noise, e.g. "XYZ Corp recently raised their dividend by $0.00 which is a 0.0% raise since last year. Increasing dividends are a sign of ..."

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Gilberto de Piento wrote:
Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:58 am

I remember hearing a podcast years ago that automation was going to take over repetitive writing for local news (articles about the weather, local sports summaries, etc.). Seems similar to this. I wonder if that ever happened?
There was recent "news" that the NY Daily News beat writers no longer writes the articles about the NY Mets that appear in their paper. They are outsourced, I believe to SI.

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I know somebody who finished my HS then top economy school in my country, is on his way with own think thank and below is summary/end one of his publication. He has alwyas nice clothes and travelled extensively SEA during studies. I wanna such lifestyle :lol:

Guy himself was ardent Ron Paul equivalent in HS. Had 180 degree turn during studies. Now he's getting paid to be (aspiring/young) "economist/adviser" (it seems such people gonna somehow influence "my" country in the future, he has articles in countrywide newspapers time to time atm :o ), so I must say I lost the story reading his MSc (many buzzwords).

How difficult is it to get such "feel good and do not so much/a lot /[or how to quantify that]" job?
@solvent, pls help.
overall title: The power of the world of work drives progress

Recover the story
However, not all technology affects employees in the same way. As early as 1979, Chris Harman, leader of one of the British socialist parties, published the manifesto "Is a Machine After Your Job". His approach to the problem was a break with the approach of the traditional left, which turned distrust of technological progress into a reactionary stance. Harman knew that the target of criticism should not be technology, but how it was used by purely profit-oriented managers.

Among the key demands proposed in his manifesto, there were many important demands, but I would like to draw particular attention to three of them. They are forbidden to use technology to judge the speed and accuracy of an individual's work; support in training and adaptation; a ban on implementing new technical solutions without the consent of the unions and prior discussion with all employees affected by the new systems. The importance of these proposals can be seen especially today, in the era of precise supervision over Amazon's warehouses or individual tracking of company computer statistics.

If we can tackle inequalities and restore purchasing power to the masses, we should not be concerned about technological unemployment. The end-of-work technopesimists camouflage well that their pessimism is, in fact, more about people as such. In a world without work, it would turn out that man is redundant. The right question, then, is: how does technology affect work relationships and who will bear the cost of structural career changes?

With due vigilance, the policies of pro-social clusters and workers' movements must shift to retrieving stories of progress. The economic stagnation observed today is the result of many processes, among which there is also a slow adaptation of the fruits of technological development. The complexity of this process is beyond doubt, but the common narrative has long overestimated the themes convenient for the owning classes. We can build a new story by admitting that the power of the world of work is, in fact, the force of progress.

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My theory on AI is, those scary thingies Boston dynamics is working on would be lined up at the border between the climate change haves and the climate change have nots to keep the starving undesirables out.


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wonderful interview, thanks so much, this one goes into my reference archives...

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