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Marijuana & Health
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brute is currently reading "drugs without the hot air" by a British psychopharmacologist, David Nutt. he was fired from his government drug advisory job when he calculated and published that riding horses for sport is more dangerous than taking ecstasy (1 hour of horse riding by far causes more death and damages on average than taking 1 ecstasy pill). he worked on the "drugs sorted by danger" scale that brute linked to a while back.
there is an interesting sidebar about marijuana and schizophrenia in the book. asked to study this by the British government, Nutt found that while marijuana use correlates with schizophrenia, it's not clear which way the causality goes. it seems while cannabis use increases some of the bad effects of schizophrenia (psychosis, this is after all the goal of most stoners), it also decreases some of the effects (anxiety). it might also be that there's a common cause for liking marijuana and being susceptible to schizophrenia. while marijuana use and average potency has drastically gone up over the last decades, cases of schizophrenia have gone done in the UK data he sampled.
also, while there is a correlation between schizophrenia and cannabis use, it's not that strong. smoking marijuana increases likelihood of psychosis-like episodes by 2.6x, whereas smoking tobacco increases likelihood of lung cancer by 20x.
there is an interesting sidebar about marijuana and schizophrenia in the book. asked to study this by the British government, Nutt found that while marijuana use correlates with schizophrenia, it's not clear which way the causality goes. it seems while cannabis use increases some of the bad effects of schizophrenia (psychosis, this is after all the goal of most stoners), it also decreases some of the effects (anxiety). it might also be that there's a common cause for liking marijuana and being susceptible to schizophrenia. while marijuana use and average potency has drastically gone up over the last decades, cases of schizophrenia have gone done in the UK data he sampled.
also, while there is a correlation between schizophrenia and cannabis use, it's not that strong. smoking marijuana increases likelihood of psychosis-like episodes by 2.6x, whereas smoking tobacco increases likelihood of lung cancer by 20x.
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Longtime cannabis user here.
Off and on for the last 12 years, with a 2 year abstinence during grad school. At my peak it was 1-2 x a day for years with minimal to no breaks, and now it's about 1-2 x a week.
I would say, slowly, I am growing out of it. It is still my preferred substance. I dislike etOH, always have, even during my college drinking days. I never got people's obsession with it. I think it is a far more destructive drug.
I agree with earlier comments about amotivational syndrome; this seems to be a direct relationship. I cant do it as much as I used to...I have decisions to make and too many things to remember. It also hamstrings me socially, so it's strictly an at-home indulgence.
Like any drug, the more we study it in controlled trials and cohorts the more we will learn. Some data will be good, some bad, but overall I consider it more on the benign end of the spectrum. The people who are categorically against it usually have some sort of emotionally-weighted value judgment against pot users. The people who support it unequivocally are usually, of course, potheads.
Off and on for the last 12 years, with a 2 year abstinence during grad school. At my peak it was 1-2 x a day for years with minimal to no breaks, and now it's about 1-2 x a week.
I would say, slowly, I am growing out of it. It is still my preferred substance. I dislike etOH, always have, even during my college drinking days. I never got people's obsession with it. I think it is a far more destructive drug.
I agree with earlier comments about amotivational syndrome; this seems to be a direct relationship. I cant do it as much as I used to...I have decisions to make and too many things to remember. It also hamstrings me socially, so it's strictly an at-home indulgence.
Like any drug, the more we study it in controlled trials and cohorts the more we will learn. Some data will be good, some bad, but overall I consider it more on the benign end of the spectrum. The people who are categorically against it usually have some sort of emotionally-weighted value judgment against pot users. The people who support it unequivocally are usually, of course, potheads.
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statistics agree: tens of thousands of humans die every year under the influence of alcohol, and tens of thousands more are hurt by those under the influence of alcohol.MZMpac wrote:I dislike etOH, always have, even during my college drinking days. I never got people's obsession with it. I think it is a far more destructive drug.
the number of humans dead due to cannabis "abuse" is roughly 0.
there is really no legitimate reason for cannabis prohibition except lobbying by big pharma. it's safe, it's cheap, it makes humans more peaceful.
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enigmaT120
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I thought there was some racist reason, too. But I can't remember what, unless you want to try to define Rastafarians (religion) as a race.
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true. marijuana was touted as the "mexican's drug", with which Mexican immigrants would drug and rape white women.. can't have that, now.
later, drug use was used as an excuse to imprison black community leaders and artists who couldn't be arrested on any real charges.
later, drug use was used as an excuse to imprison black community leaders and artists who couldn't be arrested on any real charges.
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slowtraveler
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I got high about 5x a day for the last 9 years. I got bronchitis most years so I switched from smoking to a volcano vaporizer. Lung problems stopped but it still has another effect. If you're depressed, anxious, suicidal- I think smoking a good indicia or hybrid can really help with the pain. But it's a cover.
Initially, I felt it helped me focus as it gave me energy and tuned out much pain. Eventually, I felt I was wasting much of my life and like abusing any drug, the temporary benefits get outweighed by the long term costs. I found getting therapy, meditating, exercising, hiking in nature, eating fresh vegetables daily, connecting to people when stressed-mainly focused on sharing authentically what I feel as a statement rather than something I'm wallowing in, volunteering, learning to feel emotions and let them pass naturally rather than resist all helped to alleviate the feelings I initially used pot to cover. Also, having a weekly focus to continually move my life towards what I want has worked wonders.
It can get expensive if you have to purchase it, sunshine is cheap and you should be able to grow all you need with 100-200ish (clones, flowering fertilizer, good soil) for a year of heavy smoking.
It did really help my uncle with cancer get his appetite back. It helps with arthritis, headaches, nausea, etc but it works differently for everyone. Only you can decide if it's of medical value, for fun, or for numbing something out.
It helped me with emotional pain till I felt ready to face what was there. It did help me bond to certain people. It cannot kill you and is one of the least dangerous drugs out there.
I'm now sober for over 2 months and notice the relaxation stayed.
For some people, it can be very helpful and used as a medicine, some abuse it, some get no benefit. I was in the first 2 categories but I felt myself isolating more over time, not motivated to reach out as cannabis dulled my emotions. I find that's the biggest risk-an easy way to feel good that makes life alright but prevents life from being the great adventure it could be, it makes an average life easy at the cost of really making the most of it. I was blissfully unaware that I was growing older while feeling stuck.
I feel more alive now and wouldn't go back.
* I have heard of juicing raw buds for health but this avoids the psychological effects.
Initially, I felt it helped me focus as it gave me energy and tuned out much pain. Eventually, I felt I was wasting much of my life and like abusing any drug, the temporary benefits get outweighed by the long term costs. I found getting therapy, meditating, exercising, hiking in nature, eating fresh vegetables daily, connecting to people when stressed-mainly focused on sharing authentically what I feel as a statement rather than something I'm wallowing in, volunteering, learning to feel emotions and let them pass naturally rather than resist all helped to alleviate the feelings I initially used pot to cover. Also, having a weekly focus to continually move my life towards what I want has worked wonders.
It can get expensive if you have to purchase it, sunshine is cheap and you should be able to grow all you need with 100-200ish (clones, flowering fertilizer, good soil) for a year of heavy smoking.
It did really help my uncle with cancer get his appetite back. It helps with arthritis, headaches, nausea, etc but it works differently for everyone. Only you can decide if it's of medical value, for fun, or for numbing something out.
It helped me with emotional pain till I felt ready to face what was there. It did help me bond to certain people. It cannot kill you and is one of the least dangerous drugs out there.
I'm now sober for over 2 months and notice the relaxation stayed.
For some people, it can be very helpful and used as a medicine, some abuse it, some get no benefit. I was in the first 2 categories but I felt myself isolating more over time, not motivated to reach out as cannabis dulled my emotions. I find that's the biggest risk-an easy way to feel good that makes life alright but prevents life from being the great adventure it could be, it makes an average life easy at the cost of really making the most of it. I was blissfully unaware that I was growing older while feeling stuck.
I feel more alive now and wouldn't go back.
* I have heard of juicing raw buds for health but this avoids the psychological effects.
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It's better than alcohol on the pocketbook
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Michael_00005
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They have been reviewing the studies here, with more to come:
https://nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search= ... type=video
If you were able to walk away from pot, I don't know why you would ever want to go back. An uncle who used to smoke the stuff said the worst side effect is loss of ambition. That was certainly true for a neighborhood kid I grew up with; by the age of 25 he lost interest in everything he used to love… he got addicted to the stuff.
https://nutritionfacts.org/?fwp_search= ... type=video
If you were able to walk away from pot, I don't know why you would ever want to go back. An uncle who used to smoke the stuff said the worst side effect is loss of ambition. That was certainly true for a neighborhood kid I grew up with; by the age of 25 he lost interest in everything he used to love… he got addicted to the stuff.
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slowtraveler
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There is so much misinformation around cannabis If someone is amotivated, it is easy to blame on pot. If you're aching to stop but cannot, that is also a problem. But cannabis saves many lives each year. My uncle's life was extended by over a year thanks to cannabis alleviating his chemotherapy pains, giving him hunger again, and motivating him to move around and live some more.
Cannabis initially motivated me to study harder and get a college degree in Biology since I wanted to understand it so much more. After I got what I needed out of the plant, it was easy to blame my lack of passion on more school on cannabis, but it was actually that I wasn't fulfilling the next step of my life of seeing the world. As soon as I embarked on that, I haven't touched cannabis since. But it'd be fun to try out in some of the European nations when I visit.
It causes many families to become closer. It alleviates many health problems. It dialates bronchial tubes and can stop an asthma attack, I've seen this before. Friends who used to have asthma don't get attacks anymore after consuming regularly.
All that said, for many people, it causes vertigo, it can make focusing more difficult for some, even if for others it sharpens focus. It does have impacts on memory. That is the only clear negative impact I am aware of that isn't the result of a bunch of tobacco, timber, and pharmaceutical companies lobbying regulations and studies to falsely claim no medical benefits and make it seem like it makes a zombie of every person who consumes the plant.
Cannabis initially motivated me to study harder and get a college degree in Biology since I wanted to understand it so much more. After I got what I needed out of the plant, it was easy to blame my lack of passion on more school on cannabis, but it was actually that I wasn't fulfilling the next step of my life of seeing the world. As soon as I embarked on that, I haven't touched cannabis since. But it'd be fun to try out in some of the European nations when I visit.
It causes many families to become closer. It alleviates many health problems. It dialates bronchial tubes and can stop an asthma attack, I've seen this before. Friends who used to have asthma don't get attacks anymore after consuming regularly.
All that said, for many people, it causes vertigo, it can make focusing more difficult for some, even if for others it sharpens focus. It does have impacts on memory. That is the only clear negative impact I am aware of that isn't the result of a bunch of tobacco, timber, and pharmaceutical companies lobbying regulations and studies to falsely claim no medical benefits and make it seem like it makes a zombie of every person who consumes the plant.