Fox's Career Plan 2.0?

[jacob]

Also to add that unlike the mercenaries, I've never chosen the money over the fit or the salary over the happiness. I've always picked what's "interesting to me" even if it meant being paid 1/2 or 1/4th of "industry" wages. The ability to live on very little allows that. The downside here is the potential for lamenting how you've been paid peanuts for doing 100 hour weeks working on "important stuff" all the while you could have made 2-4x more dong trivial work at 40hrs/week just because you were closer to the money stream (=legal, sales, health care).

But ... it could be that I've just been lucky (sample size=1). I don't think I should be used as an example to replicate.

[classical_Liberal]

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[distracted_at_work]

What I've learned in my short career is that you want to be a revenue generating member of the company. These are people who get all the perks, bonuses, security, lunches... whatever it is. Divide the people in a company into wealth creators and wealth consumers and hope to find yourself on the wealth creator side. As an example, the human resource department only exist because the engineers created a product and the sales team sold it. Maybe work that idea into two-point-o.

I'd also add, I'm not surprised at all you are thinking of the next plan. I was, I think, 4 months into my first "real" job when I started to hate it.

In-person relationships are becoming increasingly short-lived for this reason. Awell, law of attrition. I've been trying not to get too attached to jobs, people, and things of late. A sign of maturity?

Odd. I'm going the other direction with the opposite conclusion. At least for people. I love the people I spend time with. Job and things I'm not nearly as attached.

[dagiffy]

If in a profession you dislike, moving from low-end to high-end pay will not (for the long term) improve satisfaction.

I can vouch for that. Sample size now two.

[TopHatFox]

Alright, here's the latest scoop:

Insurance is likely to cover orthognathic surgery via COBRA. The whole process would take about 6-7 months. I already have all the paperwork, healthcare professionals, and insurance-ask ready to go. This means I'll be sticking around NY for the next 9 months or so.

In the meantime, I'll get unemployment insurance or a job(s) within 5 miles of my current apartment. Maybe try out some of the job ideas on this post. I'm still thinking of HR because it is well suited to INFJs.

I've made a spreadsheet with a list of employer names I've applied to. I also have cells where I can write Y/N for whether I gave them a follow-up call or e-mail, and whether I completed their online application. The spreadsheet is useful for active job seeking.

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I am currently researching more about passive job seeking. In other words, where can I make a job seeker profile where recruiters are likely to e-mail or call me? I remember LinkedIn was useless for this. I've had some luck on ZipRecruiter. Maybe Indeed or Monster would be good, or a local agency.

Thoughts?

[SustainableHappiness]

In other words, where can I make a job seeker profile where recruiters are likely to e-mail or call me? I remember LinkedIn was useless for this.

Don't mean to burst your bubble on passive job seeking but if LinkedIn was useless for this, then you likely either do not have enough marketable skills and experience, or your LinkedIn profile is crap. This means other job sites will likely be almost as useless. You will have better luck using a temp/recruitment agency like I saw you were suggesting in your other thread. I did this for my first (brief) job out of college, starting salary was ~$40K a year and they took ~10% cut of that while I remained on contract with them (with good performance it only lasted for 3 months till the firm hired me on). They got me the interview, I did the rest.

Upper-level recruiters typically don't take a cut directly, they will get paid by the company for filling the role. But I am sure there are 100 different business models, so I can't speak too confidently about recruitment firms.

Sample size of 1 = with only 4 years of solid experience in sales/marketing, I get on average 1 call/message a month from headhunters who found me via my Linkedin profile or contacts through Linkedin. If you are able to play the game and get a promotion with a couple years of working for a company, or even a cross functional move and show it well on Linkedin, recruiters will call. This of course requires finding a company you want to stay with...sorry for the chicken/egg.

[SavingWithBabies]

I was going to reply much the same as @SustainableHappiness. I think LinkedIn is more useful once you have some experience. But it doesn't hurt to keep a profile up and keep it up to date. I too get contacted regularly via LinkedIn for new opportunities. I actually am working for my current employer via an outside recruiter that contacted me via LinkedIn. I view LinkedIn as roughly the Facebook for business. I also regularly get sent opportunities that are clearly not for me (across the country for 6 month contract, technical requirements very different from my background, etc). But so far, as much as LinkedIn rubs me the wrong way in some aspects, it has been overall good.

I think once you have some experience that can match the roles that recruiters are seeking to fill, then you will see more recruiters contacting you. It's definitely chicken and egg. But it is not a bad idea to respond to each contact as often that recruiter will be looking for other positions too. I don't do that anymore as there is just too much coming in but I have when I've been actively looking for a new position.

[Seppia]

All my jobs after the first (currently in my fourth employer) have came through connections made via LinkedIn.
So it definitely worked for me, but it's not like I'm getting contacted every other day.
What makes you say it was a failure? Zero/no contacts? In how much time?

Tips for a more attractive LinkedIn profile

Some are basics in common with a "how to keep a good CV"
- keep it tidy
- display only useful information
- keep it readable (= succinct, if you have two years experience and your profile is two pages long, you're doing it wrong)
- have a full profile (fill in all the blanks)
- update regularly. Years ago (so this may not be the case today) I was told by an insider that in searches, all else being equal, the most recently updated profile shows up first.

[Scott 2]

The best jobs don't make it to the job sites.

Referral via people you know is a good path.

Another is going to professional development events for people in whatever field you're targeting.

For example, as a project manager in software development, I might go to agile meetup, a quality assurance meetup, the local pmi chapter meeting, the PMI global Congress, or a tech event like live 360.

Talking to speakers and attendees, expressing a genuine interest in the field, opportunities abound. They are much more likely to be good ones.

Your school alumni network is another source superior to job boards. You come from privilege now, leverage it.

[James_0011]

I wouldn’t assume that another job is going to solve your problems. As someone who has had a lot of jobs, my conclusion is that all jobs suck. Thus, I would rather just stick it out in a high paying job and retire sooner.

What is it that motivates you to ere? For example, the things I don’t like about working are universal accross jobs- social pressure to drink + eat junk food, lack of sunlight, being in front of a pc 8 hrs a day, boredom.

So, I’m my case getting a new job wouldn’t solve any of my problems with working.

I’ve also had ‘fun’ jobs - like working at a summer camp and honestly they’re weren’t that fun at all. If I could go back I would skip the fun jobs and opt for more pay.

All I’m saying, is stick it out for atleast a year before you pull the plug, 4 months isn’t very long at all.