7Wannabe5 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:18 am
@Campitor:
The sub-text of your solution set is that during your impoverished childhood, you directly or indirectly suffered ill treatment at the hands of violent youth allowed to freely exert their will in a "Lord of the Flies" type environment. Therefore, your own Adult Masculine (Paternal/Power realm) wishes to strike out strongly to protect your own internal vulnerable child (Juvenile Feminine), because you immediately semi-consciously identify with the victim. I grew up in a very safe, affluent setting, but with a mother who suffered from bi-polar disease resulting in outbursts of rage and manic shopping sprees and related behavior causing great financial stress for my very fiscally conservative, firmly Upper-Middle class father. So, I have some experience with therapeutic solutions to childhood trauma. In terms of the crude Jungian model I prefer, you will likely benefit from letting go of some Paternal Control mechanisms which cause you to place your boundaries somewhat forward of the ideal towards imposing judgment/rules on other humans, and thereby limiting your own freedom.
You keep resorting to ad-hominem attacks, albeit in a very polite manner, instead of refuting my points. Okay - I'll play along for just a bit
The sub-text of your solution set is that during your impoverished childhood, you directly or indirectly suffered ill treatment at the hands of violent youth allowed to freely exert their will in a "Lord of the Flies" type environment.
Let's say your 100% right about me getting freely assualted in a Lord of the Flies atmosphere and that experience has affected my view. How does that negate the recommendation that violent students with sociopathic tendencies should be segregated from other students and recieve their education in a clinical setting where they can get help? Do you think violent students should be free to comingle with non-violent students? Do you think students with sociapathic tendecies shouldn't get help? I know, I know, I'm strawman'ing you but it's a bit deserved when you keep ad-hominem'ing me.
Therefore, your own Adult Masculine (Paternal/Power realm) wishes to strike out strongly to protect your own internal vulnerable child (Juvenile Feminine), because you immediately semi-consciously identify with the victim.
I don't identify with the victims because I don't view myself as a victim. I do have sympathy for individuals who are victims of psychological and physical abuse irrespective if they are also perpetrators of violence; you don't break the chain of violence by letting violent people wage violence on normal people.
I grew up in a very safe, affluent setting, but with a mother who suffered from bi-polar disease resulting in outbursts of rage and manic shopping sprees and related behavior causing great financial stress for my very fiscally conservative, firmly Upper-Middle class father. So, I have some experience with therapeutic solutions to childhood trauma.
I used to care for patients with psychological and mental disorders: attempted suicide, dissociative identity disorder, dementia, traumatic brain injury. My job was to make sure they didn't hurt themselves if suicidal, monitor them for any sign of brain hemmoraging, and help feed and dress them if they were incapicitated in some way. Most of my time was spent listening to them - they just wanted someone to talk to. So I guess we both have experience dealing with trauma - I award both of us the
official raspberry award for tooting our own horns.
In terms of the crude Jungian model I prefer, you will likely benefit from letting go of some Paternal Control mechanisms which cause you to place your boundaries somewhat forward of the ideal towards imposing judgment/rules on other humans, and thereby limiting your own freedom.
"Forward of the ideal" is your opinion. I doubt wanting freedom from violence by segrating the violent from the non-violent is a Paternal Control Mechanism - it's just plain common sense and biology. All organisms, even the most basic, try to evade harm.
Okay back to the regularly scheduled program:
Warning to 7wB - "I wanna be in a Rihanna video" dramatic comment below...
So who here thinks the Pareto distribution of better outcomes is on the "Don't let the 9% tutor their children side" versus the "Don't let Little Billy Sweetcakes club/punch/stab my kid" side?