Ethics and Viruses

[EdithKeeler]

Personally, I feel awkward when I am greeting a friend or family member after some time has passed between seeing them and no touch (via handshake or hug) occurs. I'm not necessarily advocating for this to happen to everyday or those we see everyday, but on a sporadic basis I really don't think it's all that bad.

I agree re. friends and family. I just don't think the business handshake with someone I'll see sporadically is really all that necessary. i have a couple of people I do business with that I see maybe once or twice a year who insist on hugging me. That's super awkward to me, hugging relative strangers in general, and a little creepy as i'm a woman and they are men. I much prefer a handshake to a hug, but let's just keep our distance when flu is going around.

[Lemon]

Interestingly for all the contagion risk basically every doctor here feels massively guilty for being sick. Especially if they were meant to be on call as they know it can leave a team super stretched or just no covered at all. So there is very much a 'work though it if not bad' attitude. The only exception being D&V which is very strictly no return until 48 hours symptoms free. Not that they don't make feel guilty about it still, you just get less quizzing. Which does feel a little screwy.

I learnt this was not how the rest of the world works with my 4 month desk job where I came in with a mild cough (felt fine) and I got sent home.

We are all supposed to be flu vaccinated. Uptake is variable, which I find frankly nuts but it hasn't yet become a fitness to practice issues. Personally I think if you refuse and then get flu and give it to a patient...well pretty poor practice in my eyes.

Legally they can't ask for proof for a work week (same as other Euro countries from this thread) then they can demand a doctors signature.

HR use formulae to root out suspected malingerers based on when sick leave happens (Fridays, Mondays, near holidays are suspicious) and how it is take. So 5 individual random days is worse than a week off at once. But if sick sick the package looks over generous to me (long time on full pay, then half pay for even longer then if you really can't work ability to take you pension immediately with no actuarial penalty).

[Stahlmann]

Sorry for treating forum as Bravo column, but I'm not retired yet and I spent [much of] my life energy elsewhere.

I've got problems with my hand skin.

1) I give handshake -> I can infect somebody, but I'm cool. [The problem is that interrupting the first phase of contact is a big no-no..]
2) I don't give handshaske -> I'm not cool -> I need to defend myself -> I'm not good in playing "Bro, you don't wash yourself!11onen Looser!" and giving good answer. -> This drives me to insanity.
3) They will find on their own way -> They will talk behind my back. -> Not bad as people tend to be not so direct about problems [in my presence].

Thoughts?