What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by bryan » Sat Apr 07, 2018 5:19 pm

@ira_kart, seems like that might be attribution error (which is something that is personally frustrating, especially on social media). I mean, folks saying we need to expand onto other planets are not saying we shouldn't sustain the Earth, folks wanting to find water out there are not saying we shouldn't keep the rivers and oceans clean? I think?

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Post by ira_kart » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:04 am

@bryan - for me, it is n't about the people who are arguing the case on social media. Social media does not capture the thoughts of the whole earth. It is about humanity's (as a whole species) quest for betterment. yes, I agree those on social media are not saying we do not want to sustain Earth, but my question for us, is why do we (Govt+Corp+people) continue to spoil this place we call our home(Remembering Carl Sagan's Pale blue dot where he says this is our home) and still continue to explore outer space. Why can't we spend the resources (money+ human will+efforts) we use on exploration of outer space on helping everyone on Earth lead a better life and then lead the quest for space with everyone on equal footing? i understand this is never going to happen, but just a wishful thinking on behalf of our species. I do not like ourselves to be painted as bad compared to others on this Earth.

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by bryan » Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:41 am

I meant social media for the general case, where it is apparently used to point out some hypocrisy, irony, etc, and get internet points. Here's a not very good example since it's just a joke and it's just the first I could find: https://twitter.com/mckellogs/status/983402706843860993 the possible error is that since allegedly old people think young folks spend too much time on the phone instead of X, these specific old people are hypocrites. I've seen some real humdingers, sadly.

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by Mikeallison » Thu Apr 12, 2018 5:58 pm

I think kids eating tide pods might be one that is frowned upon, or maybe the new craze where they snort condoms for fun

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... -bad-idea/

Remember "children are our future" ;)

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by bryan » Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:54 pm

From that link:
In fact, over the past five years, U.S. poison control centers have received only one report of a condom inhalation.
As The Post's Abby Ohlheiser wrote this week: “The only thing viral about the condom challenge right now is the moral panic about the idea of teens doing the condom challenge.”
The condom-snorting challenge was thrust into the national spotlight after Enriquez discussed it during a San Antonio school workshop designed to give parents and teachers a glimpse into the things their teens may be seeing online. And it was portrayed in headlines as “every parent’s worst nightmare” and “the latest dangerous social media trend.”

“The word ‘trend’ is the most important aspect of these stories,” said Alex Kasprak, a reporter at Snopes, a fact-checking site that rated the “condom challenge” panic as “mostly false.”
The craze is taking hold of a certain demographic.. and it's not the young folks. I hope "we" will be ashamed of being so easily fooled by "fake news".

Aside.. it's interesting to see how folks cling on to "bad" outlets of information (similar to feeding trolls? or maybe the trolls are feeding them..). I've been muting/blocking accounts on twitter that I feel are subversive, insidious and it's kind of sad when I see folks quote-retweeting (usually to argue with) those accounts.

Another not very good example of what I was talking about (attribution error) is here: https://twitter.com/awealthofcs/status/ ... 1367377920 hints at folks preference to generalize and not isolating attribution sources (A versus B versus "the media" or "the internet" or "liberals" or "conservatives" etc.).

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by Mikeallison » Thu Apr 12, 2018 11:25 pm

bryan wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:54 pm
Aside.. it's interesting to see how folks cling on to "bad" outlets of information
Condom snorting compilation video

https://youtu.be/xHN59uGCn9M


I'm not sure how to process you giving disinformation while talking about disinformation lol. Many, many more videos where that came from. Unless you think these videos are fake? Pretty good special effects!

I don't know exactly how popular this is, and neither does snopes, (which is a horrible fact checking site by the way, I wouldn't trust them to fact check an expiration date) but by the video evidence I think it is safe to say that many more people are doing it than the one CDC case. Thus making my social commentary perfectly relevant thank you very much. Now I would politely ask you to let me make fun of teenagers in peace! And get off my lawn while you are at it! Darn kids.

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by Kriegsspiel » Fri Apr 13, 2018 9:20 am

bryan wrote:
Thu Apr 12, 2018 6:54 pm
The craze is taking hold of a certain demographic.. and it's not the young folks. I hope "we" will be ashamed of being so easily fooled by "fake news".
I would think with the advent of really good video fakes we're going to be getting fooled a lot more in the future. Maybe in the future they'll laugh at us for getting fooled with only words.

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Re: What aspects of today's society will we be ashamed of in sixty years?

Post by bryan » Fri Apr 13, 2018 4:47 pm

Hey, I was just quoting form the article you linked to :P I admit kids these days aren't using Facebook any longer.. but I figure I would have at least seen something on Twitter about it before the "children are our future" reaction to it. I remember the TidePod trend for sure, but that was mostly a joke as well (not like "chubby bunny" or the cinnamon challenge etc.. most people joked about eating them but not actually eating them, making others think that they ate them).

The message is being pushed from or embraced by certain groups, for sure. I just checked my Uncle's facebook page and sure enough he has a bunch of shared posts about it (he shares a lot of fake news since 2016, earnestly) recently.

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