I saw Fight Club!

Favorite quotations, etc.
User avatar
Posts: 586
Joined: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:44 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Chris » Fri Mar 09, 2018 9:24 pm

Stahlmann wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 2:37 pm
However, due to the commercial success of Fightclub and its meaning in ERE way - I will watch it finally someday.
Or you could read the book, if you're really opposed to mainstream Hollywood.

Posts: 766
Joined: Sat May 23, 2015 3:46 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by thrifty++ » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:08 am

Such a great movie. Loved it. I never picked up the ERE aspects of it but can see that in retrospect.

I mainly took from it the stuff around support group meetings for problems you dont have and the fight club itself. The film is interesting on so many levels.

Posts: 410
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:05 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Stahlmann » Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:56 am

Just food for thought:

I'll tell something about my "views" after I come from morning walk.

Posts: 764
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:31 am

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by ThisDinosaur » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:29 am

I remember being confused by the fact that the most degrading dialogue in that movie was the most uplifting.

"You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake. You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else. We are all part of the same compost heap."

That stuff made me feel energized. Later I made the connection to the first noble truth if Buddhism. All life is suffering. As opposed to my baseline belief that some people suffer and some don't. If you think that way, you could blow any little set back up into a tragedy. But If your baseline assumption is that everybody's life is garbage, than every success makes you a heroic underdog who beat the odds.

Also, I was thinking about the ending when I started listening to Jordan Peterson lately. (Movie ending was better than the book.) Jack's old life is Order and Tyler is Chaos. He's got too much order initially, but unrestrained Tyler is Chaos. That's why Tyler goes from being the Savior to being the Villain. He definitely rescued these men from their lives, but then they followed him into a cult.

Posts: 389
Joined: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:57 am

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Farm_or » Sat Mar 10, 2018 9:46 am

That type of social ordering plays out amongst the chickens in the barn yard every day. I'd like to think that we are more sophisticated than that, but I was a young rooster once.

I just flat out liked to fight. It was another competition and young men are naturally competitive. But the raw basics of fight club is enlightening or reminding. The stripping down to essentials and gaining the new perspective of how much little things don't matter. Some concepts are better illustrated in story version.

User avatar
Posts: 3187
Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2015 5:20 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by BRUTE » Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:11 pm

Fight Club captures so many things well:
- the romantic desire of young human males to burn down a system they feel mistreated by
- the cultural suppression of masculinity, and the male desire to express their masculinity, on their own terms
- the ultimate futility of any ideology or belief system against human nature (re-establishing the social system they initially tried to escape)
- human males like to fight, it's almost a biological drive, not like food or sleep, but like sex, and it can be channeled

the movie is also brilliantly done. brute must've seen it 10-20 times at least, and every time it is as enjoyable as the first. this is kind of true for most Fincher movies brute has seen - they're just so incredibly well made, with such attention to detail, that they don't get old or boring.

User avatar
Posts: 3539
Joined: Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:03 am

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by 7Wannabe5 » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:17 am

Why I don't choose to teach 6th grade.

User avatar
Posts: 1376
Joined: Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:15 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Sclass » Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:46 am

Wow. So this post came full circle. I must have really liked the movie to start this thread. Last week I was in the Salvation Army store and my SO walked up with Fight Club in her hand and said hey, “do you want to own this?” It was half price day.

I shrugged, “Why?”

I’ll have to check it out from the library to refresh my memory. I found the fighting part to be kind of a distracting platform for the minimalism theme.

Ah yes, just read the OP. The things you own own you.

Posts: 764
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2015 9:31 am

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by ThisDinosaur » Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:02 am

Sclass wrote:
Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:46 am
I found the fighting part to be kind of a distracting platform for the minimalism theme.
Well, physical aggression is a major part of male angst, which was a theme of the story.

The movie was very poorly marketed. Previews of a bunch of amateurs punching each other in a basement? No thx. It didn't reach cult status until after it left theaters, which matches my experience.
I first saw it on DVD at my friend's apartment. I remember the exact moment I knew it was a classic:

"To make soap, we must first render fat. And the best fat comes from humans."
:o "Wait, what is this place?"
"Its a liposuction clinic."

Posts: 410
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2016 6:05 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Stahlmann » Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:27 pm

Kriegsspiel wrote:
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:25 pm
What movies do you watch, then?
I think there are meta-archetypes and meta-topos(es?!).

People like money, people like sex. People like having something to relate. People like adding meaning to different things. Rich tricking the poor and vice versa. The life writes the best screenplays.

How many times can you watch these?

My answers:

Before this one frame (0:31) with:
Stay asleep.
Fit in.
No opinions.
Watch TV.

The billboards say after 1:33 in order of scenes:
1) We will do more -> You will get f***** finally. Together we will steal more.
2) Let's finalize his work (because he died in Smolensk catastrophe, where 70 years ago there was mass murder on Poles. -> [I
m sorry for his antisemite cliches, but this guy was in the camp of NWO-jewish conspiracy"
3)Ad of Matrix movie -> [There is change of one guy for Lech Wałęsa. He is presented as hero (in mainstream media) who defeated socialism 20 [holy God... it's almost 30 years now!] But... would the strong guys resign the power? Guess who are capitalists in my beautiful country today :lol: It's very possible that you know my home country by this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jinm1kFG8SA (I'm speechless).

I'm so sorry this was sponsored by government agency... Economy based on fact that we can be cheaper unless capital go east...
4) Balant antisemitism. I'm very sorry for this.
5) There is no change in person. This guy (Andrzej Lepper) is tried to be presented as common person/hoemboy ) (the most "honest" of these trio), sign: "Man with character"

(needed translations: the guy speaks about working for 1,5 USD PPP per hour;
new voice: random musings about consumer society with a bit of aggressivity and "problems" created by them)

[to be clear the guy from this channel believes in "the evil they", "some uniting love in the world suppresed by lack of awareness" and some kind of Buddhist enlightenment; he wasn't leftist ->

I found these clips 10 (the guy changed accounts ) years ago (it's not like I found them to prove my point[ Was very fascinated back then. Haven't changed myself anyway (prepperism + minimalism and "hope" of applied capitalism wasn't here - it wasn't even presented)

[recently I found also info on situation in Delta of Niger {back then it was also shocker for me}. Nothing changed up to today. ]

Cominf back to the main points of the topic:

What is the point for paying 10$ for ticket in cinema then coming back to the house and waking up to work next day?

I must admit I caught myself watching TV mindlessly after work with open jaw (after I entered real life TM).

PS. You shouldn't believe in some random internet dude with avoidant personality disorder :lol:

One more time I stay too long. Somebody was a bit wrong on the internet :lol:

Mister Imperceptible
Posts: 241
Joined: Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:18 pm

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by Mister Imperceptible » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:31 pm

Timeless film.

In college, I wrote a paper about Fight Club en route to my degree in Film/Basket Weaving. I drew a parallel to Nietzsche’s Genealogy of Morals, with Norton’s character as representative of slave morality, Tyler Durden as master morality, and the encounter/struggle between the two as representative of individuals having mixed moralities. “My eyes are open” and the following self-inflicted gunshot wound as consummating the synthesis between the two. We were required to speak on our paper to indicate we ourselves had written the paper and not plagiarized. I remember the adjunct professor being intimidated enough by the paper that she brought in a philosophy professor from another school to hear my presentation. I honestly do not recall if the paper was absolutely brilliant, or pointless drivel. I was perpetually in a marijuana-induced stupor at the time. It was probably drivel.

I got an A.

Posts: 1022
Joined: Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:14 pm
Location: Falls City, OR

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by enigmaT120 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:25 pm

I liked Fight Club but I don't think I would watch it again, because it wouldn't work again.

Posts: 5757
Joined: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:20 pm
Location: Stepford USA

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by jennypenny » Thu Mar 22, 2018 11:28 am

Why Fight Club might appeal to INTJs ... http://typeindepth.com/2011/12/fight-club-functions/

Posts: 44
Joined: Wed Mar 14, 2018 7:55 am

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by ira_kart » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:35 pm

finished seeing it now; saw it around 2012/13 and never understood a thing. Now its making some sense.

"You're not your job. You're not how much money you have in the bank. You're not the car you drive. You're not the contents of your wallet. You're not your fucking khakis. You're the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world. "\

Here we are, in the forum outlining how much we have saved for retirement lol.

Site Admin
Posts: 9955
Joined: Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:38 pm
Location: USA, Zone 5b, Koppen Dfa, Elev. 620ft, Walkscore 73

Re: I saw Fight Club!

Post by jacob » Fri Apr 06, 2018 3:37 pm

Interesting things happen at the intersection. Flip one "not" above and you have FIRE.

Post Reply