Why are Ray Jardine, Jacob, and other free-thinkers considered controversial?
Posted: Thu Dec 29, 2016 2:55 am
I think Jacob and Ray Jardine, one of the fathers of ultralight weight outdoor recreation, are very similar. Both of you are strong INTJ's, seem to care more about truth than "fitting in" or "looking good", and are seen as "too extreme" by most yet "totally reasonable" by a few. Also, the principles taught by you both cannot be applied well by people without the fitting ideology and acquired skill-sets (whether sewing your own gear or cycling to work). I thought this was interesting as I compared the tone, content, and ideology of the FI based ERE book and the ultralight weight book Beyond Backpacking.
It also got me thinking: why is some of the stuff Jacob, Ray, and other free-thinkers say controversial. I mean, what did Jacob say: if you live more efficiently, you can be financially independent much sooner. "Lentil lover and index hater!!1." And what did Ray say: if you spend time outdoors in a more efficient way, you can enjoy the outdoors in a healthier, safer, and more enjoyable manner. "Oh, but the corn pasta and tarps!!1." Honestly, it's like an entire ideology is dismissed on one misinterpreted idea. The ad hominim attack that bugs me the most is: "I feel sorry for his wife" (partner, etc.). I've heard this used on many non-traditional writers, and it's such a simple-minded rhetoric--the person using it hasn't even met the author, let alone can they accurately asses what their relationship to their partner is.
Meh. I hate the general public. #Rant
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Do you have any insightful, non-traditional authors you like who are unjustly controversial? I find if they're INTJ, or just a T in general, they're more likely to get a bad rap the more popular they get. Actually, more popularity seems to inherently breed more "hater/asshats." Feel free to chime in with that experience if you like Jacob. : )
Somehow MMM has survived the popularity gammut and is fairly well-liked nowadays, though maybe that's because his NW and annual expenses are closer to the norm; a wheaton level closer than a Ray or Jacob, perhaps.
Thoughts?
It also got me thinking: why is some of the stuff Jacob, Ray, and other free-thinkers say controversial. I mean, what did Jacob say: if you live more efficiently, you can be financially independent much sooner. "Lentil lover and index hater!!1." And what did Ray say: if you spend time outdoors in a more efficient way, you can enjoy the outdoors in a healthier, safer, and more enjoyable manner. "Oh, but the corn pasta and tarps!!1." Honestly, it's like an entire ideology is dismissed on one misinterpreted idea. The ad hominim attack that bugs me the most is: "I feel sorry for his wife" (partner, etc.). I've heard this used on many non-traditional writers, and it's such a simple-minded rhetoric--the person using it hasn't even met the author, let alone can they accurately asses what their relationship to their partner is.
Meh. I hate the general public. #Rant
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Do you have any insightful, non-traditional authors you like who are unjustly controversial? I find if they're INTJ, or just a T in general, they're more likely to get a bad rap the more popular they get. Actually, more popularity seems to inherently breed more "hater/asshats." Feel free to chime in with that experience if you like Jacob. : )
Somehow MMM has survived the popularity gammut and is fairly well-liked nowadays, though maybe that's because his NW and annual expenses are closer to the norm; a wheaton level closer than a Ray or Jacob, perhaps.
Thoughts?