A Bicycle is Not the Solution

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by ThisDinosaur » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:21 pm

@Olaz. Scooters have all the safety issues of a motorcycle and none of the cool. I suppose I should consider it. How do you mean its an FU?

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by TopHatFox » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:39 pm

I haven't read the post too much in detail, but If one of the ways they're looking to push you around is by making you get a car to reach a destination in 30 minutes, you can still get to the destination in time via scooter (which tend to be slower than motorcycles) while not getting the car. I suppose if this is intentional, they'll likely find some other way to push you around, at which point you can find some other way to creatively solve their challenge, or ultimately tell them off.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by BRUTE » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:13 pm

scooters are much cheaper to purchase and maintain than motorcycles. but yea, not nearly as much cool and fun factor.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

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Post by ThisDinosaur » Sun, 07 Aug 2016, 17:23

Alternatively, I may just get more defiant until somebody breaks and I walk.
+1 Walk across town once or twice, and they will think a bike is plenty fast by comparison.

I know that walk wasn't what you meant.
Good luck with a loaded situation.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

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Post by ThisDinosaur » Sun, 07 Aug 2016, 17:23

Alternatively, I may just get more defiant until somebody breaks and I walk.
+1 Walk across town once or twice, and they will think a bike is plenty fast by comparison.

I know that walk wasn't what you meant.
Good luck with a loaded situation.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by Sclass » Sun Aug 07, 2016 7:36 pm

Scooters are cool. And functional.

I suspect you can get more bang for your buck with a full out motorcycle. I ride a $1500 Honda 400 currently that I bought on Craigslist this Xmas. Scooters are scary over 50 mph with bumps and turns.

I do my own work. It is easier than a car. Get a Chiltons manual and some courage. My guess is the hourly mechanics rate down at the Honda dealer is the same for a a
Scooter or motorcycle. But he doesn't get my dime. I insure for $90 a year. Reg is $75 a year. I'm not sure you're saving much on a scooter...fundamentally they are the same thing as a motorcycle unless you're talking about those scooters that you stand on that don't require a plate.

In your shoes maybe I'd do your job and enjoy a motorcycle ride between sites. Take the money. I stayed with a boring and humiliating job because it paid very well during the tech downturn. Not my first choice but I banked every nickel.

The Corolla is another good idea. I see a lot of youngster driving 10 yo beater toyotas in my town. Keep oil in it and beat it.

Good luck.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by vexed87 » Mon Aug 08, 2016 8:05 am

I think a vespa style scooter is pretty cool if motor is required, although I think an ebike with a 1000 watt motor would be better suited to these occasional sub 100 mile round trips and doesn't carry all the baggage that goes with licensing and insuring a motor vehicle.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by BRUTE » Mon Aug 08, 2016 11:14 am

a used motorcycle is only a reasonable solution if ThisDinosaur learns to do all the basic maintenance himself, like Sclass said. mechanics might charge the same rate for scooters and motorcycles, but scooters are much simpler mechanically and have much greater maintenance intervals, to there will be much less time spent at the mechanic. tires every few k miles. oil. valve checks. spark plugs. cam chain. brake pads and clutch cable. for brute, working on motorcycles turned into a hobby. but if that's not desired, brute would suggest sticking to a scooter or used car. or maybe e bike, brute hasn't tried those.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by Sclass » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:41 pm

Hey I got interested in scooters after reading this. They are cheap. First I was thinking no way Brute, scooters have valves, tires, spark plugs and oil change intervals just like motorcycles. But I started looking at scooters on CL

You know, the two stroke ones don't have valves. Some have cable operated front brakes. They don't have chains either. The 50cc models (useless in my hilly area) are dirt cheap on CL.
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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by George the original one » Wed Aug 17, 2016 4:51 pm

Isn't California outlawing 2-strokes for emissions?

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by jacob » Wed Aug 17, 2016 6:44 pm

@GtOO - Yup. If you want to do this [conversion] in CA, you need to buy the special CA-approved model.

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Re: A Bicycle is Not the Solution

Post by Sclass » Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:12 pm

George the original one wrote:Isn't California outlawing 2-strokes for emissions?
Two strokes above 50cc have been unavailable a long time in CA. Up till recently you've been able to get some 50cc scooters like the Yamaha Zuma in two stroke. So there are still two stroke scooters out there on CL. Cheap. Easy to maintain.

I'm not sold on them because I prefer real motorcycles. It just looked very cheap especially if you live in a flat area with things close by. But then my new $40 bicycle works well for that.

Motorcycle maintenance shouldn't scare anyone. A solid Japanese make will require chain lube, oil changes and yearly? valve adjustments. All easy things to do.

I recently sold my Suzuki RM250 two stroke dirtbike. Off road only. Gardeners use stinky two strokes to trim my hedges too. So yes, in general two stroke motorcycles are going away. Shame considering how easy they are to keep going. I just did a multi angle valve cut on my four stroke Honda and set its valve lash twice since January. But it was old and roasted.

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