@Johnny - I've actually considered putting a wood stove in my house on several occasions, partially because of the free exercise of chopping wood. I'm just not sure where/if I would be able to get enough free wood to feed the stove.
Where did you usually get the wood from?
Monolithic Cabin as an ERE housing solution?
@M: I live in the Rockies, so there is forested public land everywhere... Tons of overgrowth and dead trees as well.
Looks like SE Ohio has the Wayne National Forest. $20 for 2.5 cord of wood... Which should be adequate if you're not a huge house and/or well insulated and/or can supplement with another source. If you can get your hands on some hard woods, you'll have it made... About 5 times the energy of the trees I burn out here.
Also, being flatter in Ohio might help your efforts. Due to slopes it's hard to pull a trailer here. But if you can you could setup lumber camp for a weekend and maybe take care of a whole winter's worth.
Looks like SE Ohio has the Wayne National Forest. $20 for 2.5 cord of wood... Which should be adequate if you're not a huge house and/or well insulated and/or can supplement with another source. If you can get your hands on some hard woods, you'll have it made... About 5 times the energy of the trees I burn out here.
Also, being flatter in Ohio might help your efforts. Due to slopes it's hard to pull a trailer here. But if you can you could setup lumber camp for a weekend and maybe take care of a whole winter's worth.
@Johnny - That's a lot cheaper than I thought. I keep thinking of the small bundles that you see at campgrounds that sell for $5 dollars a bundle. I guess when you're buying it by the cord it suddenly gets very very cheap.
I have a small house in southwest Ohio, which is pretty well insulated. But the only heat I have is electrical resistance heating - which is more expensive than any other kind of heating.
I wonder if there is such a thing as a small wood stove that would vent out of a window? Or perhaps a small propane heater?
I have a small house in southwest Ohio, which is pretty well insulated. But the only heat I have is electrical resistance heating - which is more expensive than any other kind of heating.
I wonder if there is such a thing as a small wood stove that would vent out of a window? Or perhaps a small propane heater?
@M: I've seen it done, but I think it could be fairly dangerous. Pipes can get very, very hot, especially if they're restricting the smoke.
I have used self contained propane heaters indoors before... Makes me a little nervous, but there was no odor, and I'm still alive.
It is nice to have several systems so you can pick and choose according to current market conditions.
I have used self contained propane heaters indoors before... Makes me a little nervous, but there was no odor, and I'm still alive.
It is nice to have several systems so you can pick and choose according to current market conditions.
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When thinking about a wood stove people seem to forget that, as with any other fuel, you can BUY wood too. Don't rule it out simply because you don't have a supply of wood available to cut yourself. Look into what purchasing the wood would cost in your area and compare that to the alternatives.
I know if I'm going to be paying for fuel anyway I'd feel better paying a local guy $1,000/winter for the wood he personally cut rather than send $1,000 off to the middle east for oil heat.
When thinking about getting a wood stove for my house I told my friend, who uses wood heat exclusively, that I wouldn't know where to find wood. He said, "Don't worry about it. The wood finds you."
He said that because people know he burns wood for heat, so whenever someone has a limb down in the yard, or a tree they want cleared off their lawn, he gets a phone call. By mid-summer he has no room left and has to turn people down on their offers of free wood.
I know if I'm going to be paying for fuel anyway I'd feel better paying a local guy $1,000/winter for the wood he personally cut rather than send $1,000 off to the middle east for oil heat.
When thinking about getting a wood stove for my house I told my friend, who uses wood heat exclusively, that I wouldn't know where to find wood. He said, "Don't worry about it. The wood finds you."
He said that because people know he burns wood for heat, so whenever someone has a limb down in the yard, or a tree they want cleared off their lawn, he gets a phone call. By mid-summer he has no room left and has to turn people down on their offers of free wood.
What do you guys think about this: http://sparetheair.org/Stay-Informed/Pa ... Smoke.aspx
Is the problem significantly mitigated by using a "modern" stove? In the Bay Area, you won't freeze to death on "Spare the Air" days, but you might get mighty cold.
Is the problem significantly mitigated by using a "modern" stove? In the Bay Area, you won't freeze to death on "Spare the Air" days, but you might get mighty cold.
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Oregon is gradually eliminating older woodstoves through the new "Heat Smart" law that went into effect Aug 1, 2010. We've required DEQ-certified woodstoves since the '80s for new installs, but eliminating the older stoves has not been a priority.
Modern stoves are 10 times cleaner than old stoves, they are more efficient, and improve indoor air quality.
Burning carbon-based fuels, though, is not really the best answer, but I think a modern woodstove is better than a coal-fired power plant that is putting mercury into the atmosphere (Oregon's single coal-fired plant is responsible for something like 90+% of current mercury emissions in Oregon!).
Modern stoves are 10 times cleaner than old stoves, they are more efficient, and improve indoor air quality.
Burning carbon-based fuels, though, is not really the best answer, but I think a modern woodstove is better than a coal-fired power plant that is putting mercury into the atmosphere (Oregon's single coal-fired plant is responsible for something like 90+% of current mercury emissions in Oregon!).