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Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2015 3:58 pm
by J_
When I was 12 I collected old newspapers and sold them by the weight of them. I got sometimes old books, also to sell them to be used for paper recycling, and there I found my first "ere" treasure: Make it yourself! printed in 1938 or so. Some weeks ago, a half century later, I gave that book to a boy of 12 living next door, he used it to make bird houses, but more important he started to use tools..
I bought at 17 the drawings and building instructions to build a sailing dinghy, which I build and sailed for a couple of years and could sell it for more than my initial investments.
But it saved me not from (some) consumerism in my twenties/early thirties. So I think that at 17 I needed a more simple but very tempting written book like Jacob's, with easy graphs and stories not so subtle as the richest man in babylon but with same message.
Writers in this forum: write it!! There are many 17 teens out there.....

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 12:09 pm
by themodernchap
Chad wrote:Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking.
DW is reading this at the minute. I might have a go at it after her. Im more extroverted than she is but I still get INTJ on the test.

I would give myself The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists by Robert Tressell. The book and Orwell's Down and Out in Paris and London probably put me on the path to who I am today.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:59 pm
by zarathustra
"How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World" by Harry Browne

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:51 am
by brighteye
I don't think I would have been ready for the ERE book at 17.
Not a book, but I think MMM writes in a way that a teenager would understand.
And though it is not the most popular book here on the forum, The 4-hour workweek was the one book that showed me that there is another way than the standard "work for 40 (50?) years from 9 to 5". It made me open to alternative ways and led me to ERE.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:53 am
by brighteye
And I am currently reading "How I found freedom in an unfree world" and it could become a candidate for a book recommendation as well

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:58 am
by BRUTE
brighteye wrote:I think MMM writes in a way that a teenager would understand.
brute chuckles

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:36 pm
by Slevin
I am currently only 22, so I'm not that far off of 17. I'm pretty sure the delta t is probably one of the most important factors here -- but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't give him a book. Back then I certainly wasn't in the same mental place as I was now and certainly had some huge character flaws (I was very arrogant and certainly fiscally irresponsible), but I didn't make any huge mistakes that I would want to correct, and I wouldn't want to derail that path that I eventually took.

Along this line of thinking though, I wish I could have given my 20 year old self the complete works of Taleb. Between then and May of this year I believed that everything was a problem that could probably be solved by a complicated mathematical model, and that science could provide a solution to all our problems, which I now think is a very skewed/wrong view of the world.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:43 pm
by Dragline
You probably would not have wanted the original Taleb book: http://www.amazon.com/Dynamic-Hedging-M ... 0471152803

It IS all mathematical formulas and jargon. Yet its essentially the same book(s) he wrote later in common English!

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:52 pm
by jacob
Reading both math and jargon, I much prefer Dynamic Hedging to all subsequent works. It's much more accurate and concise. I also like his tech papers.

Taleb's subsequent works are essentially "how to manage and hedge a net long strangle options portfolio using phenomenological probability distribution assumptions" translated into English.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:53 pm
by Dragline
What I meant to say . . .

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:09 am
by brighteye
BRUTE wrote:
brighteye wrote:I think MMM writes in a way that a teenager would understand.
brute chuckles
I actually see this as a compliment to MMM, I think it is not easy to explain systems in a way that a beginner can understand. That is what makes a good teacher.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 3:29 am
by BRUTE
a good teacher of teenagers

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:04 am
by FBeyer
BRUTE wrote:a good teacher of teenagers
the hardest people to teach...

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 1:15 am
by BRUTE
brute wouldn't necessarily agree. maybe the hardest to teach if FBeyer is trying to teach them things they aren't interested in, which humans call school.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:25 am
by Did
I think this blog and Mr MM. YMOYL, 4HWW.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Wed Jan 27, 2016 3:06 am
by BRUTE
4HWW is what the internet gave brute when he was young. so there isn't anything brute would change ;) and it's not like brute now lies in a hammock selling pills over the internet, making tons of cash. but it was the first book that made brute realize it's ok to "break the rules" of 9-5.

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2019 2:08 pm
by fiby41
Worthless: The Young Person’s Indispensable Guide to Choosing the Right Major

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:58 pm
by TopHatFox
WORTHLESS -> YEEEEEEEEEES

I wish I had that goddamn book. Fuck me, and all the other forsaken millennials that majored in the wrong shit at 18 yo.

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As much as I found ERE, MMM, and JLCollins when I was 17 yo or 18 yo, I don't think anyone addressed picking the right major, mostly just to live simply and save the difference and consider a state school above a fancy school. Yeah that's a lot easier when you're a programming majoring INTJ, rather than a sociologist or art history majoring INFP. ><

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:25 am
by jacob
TopHatFox wrote:
Tue Sep 10, 2019 11:58 pm
As much as I found ERE, MMM, and JLCollins when I was 17 yo or 18 yo, I don't think anyone addressed picking the right major,
A popular subject in the personal finance sphere when I was blogging was to compare the lifetime income of a college degree vis-a-vis a trade. The trade choice almost always won, thanks to its huge headstart, especially for FIRE time-horizons. There were also a lot of jokes about English majors flipping burgers and the importance of looking at employment placement ratios when choosing one's major. However, I also know if I had come across one of those articles or gotten that advice when I was 18, it wouldn't have registered with me.

http://earlyretirementextreme.com/who-n ... anywa.html
http://earlyretirementextreme.com/the-s ... ation.html

Re: If you could go back and give your 17 year old self one book, what would it be?

Posted: Wed Sep 11, 2019 2:38 pm
by cimorene12
I think that I read both of those ERE articles in 2009. I was in college then. I read 4HWW in college, too. Honestly most of the books or resources I'd give my younger self were read at a fairly young age.