Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

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Frilosofen
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Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Frilosofen » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:38 am

Hello everyone,

I've been lurking around here for some time now and just recently registered for the forum. Thought I might as well introduce myself briefly, planning on starting a journal as well in the near future.

I'm a ~26 year old man residing in a large city (by Swedish measures) on the west coast of Sweden. I have been working full time now (40h/w) since the beginning of last year and about one year later I got really tired of it all, basically wondering if this is it? I guess that during that first year everything about work was still new to me (worked for 2 different companies at 4 different offices) and my energy wasn't quite drained yet. However, after that first year I started feeling tired while I also got a lot of slack time leading to me surfing about the web. I don't recall exactly how but sometime around maybe February(?) this year I found MMM and evidently ERE. So, here I am :)

Actually sitting at work typing this (again, slack time), sensing I got quite a lot to write, while trying to keep this intro short. With that said I'll dig deeper into my background once I start my journal. Since change happens gradually I'll settle with this for now. Until next time, take care all!

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by MDFIRE2024 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:05 am

Welcome Frilosofen! I am interested in Sweden. It must have a high quality of life there. I guess when you will be FIRE'ed it must be quite nice to live in Sweden. Well, looking to read more about your ERE journey in Sweden. Take care.

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Frilosofen » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:56 am

MDFIRE2024 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:05 am
Welcome Frilosofen! I am interested in Sweden. It must have a high quality of life there. I guess when you will be FIRE'ed it must be quite nice to live in Sweden. Well, looking to read more about your ERE journey in Sweden. Take care.
Thank you MD.

Well in some respects the quality of life is good. We have almost free health care, free schooling, and lots of other perks. But since there is no such thing as a free lunch we pay for it by taxes which are among the highest in the world.

The material standard is overall good and my guess is that "poor" people in Sweden are well off compared to other countries. However, socially and culturally I would say Sweden is quite poor. Everyone mostly minds their own business and if you speak to someone you don't know without any real reason most people will consider you weird. For me as an introvert this is not really a problem other than that you don't really fell like part of the community which is kind of sad.

I will probably live here when FIRE'd yes since I have been my whole life. Overall I would say it is a nice place, mostly peaceful and quiet. But I have several years to go until then :)

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by MDFIRE2024 » Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:26 am

Frilosofen wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:56 am
MDFIRE2024 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:05 am
Welcome Frilosofen! I am interested in Sweden. It must have a high quality of life there. I guess when you will be FIRE'ed it must be quite nice to live in Sweden. Well, looking to read more about your ERE journey in Sweden. Take care.
Well in some respects the quality of life is good. We have almost free health care, free schooling, and lots of other perks. But since there is no such thing as a free lunch we pay for it by taxes which are among the highest in the world.
Well, Germany (where I live) has also high taxes, expecially for a single earner. We suffer the same burden :|

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Frilosofen » Sat Sep 23, 2017 2:22 am

MDFIRE2024 wrote:
Sat Sep 23, 2017 12:26 am
Frilosofen wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:56 am
MDFIRE2024 wrote:
Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:05 am
Welcome Frilosofen! I am interested in Sweden. It must have a high quality of life there. I guess when you will be FIRE'ed it must be quite nice to live in Sweden. Well, looking to read more about your ERE journey in Sweden. Take care.
Well in some respects the quality of life is good. We have almost free health care, free schooling, and lots of other perks. But since there is no such thing as a free lunch we pay for it by taxes which are among the highest in the world.
Well, Germany (where I live) has also high taxes, expecially for a single earner. We suffer the same burden :|
Ah! Then I guess we are dealing with pretty much the same situation in many respects, for good and for bad...

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Eureka » Sun Sep 24, 2017 2:40 am

Welcome from the other side of Öresund!

I guess one of the biggest challenges for retiring early here in Scandinavia is the high level of focus on "protestant work ethics"; that the purpose of adult life is to work and thus "contribute to society". That healthy and intelligent and able people's only accepted behaviour is first to take an education and then to work until an ever increasing official retirement age defined by the government.

Good luck with finding your emergency route!

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Lillailler » Sat Sep 30, 2017 1:44 am

Hej!
I too live in a Big City (by Swedish standards) on the Wet Coast of Sweden. I love the quality of life just as I hate the high taxes and wasteful government. I noticed when I came here that Swedes mind their own business but I regard that as a big plus. My experience is that if you ask for help, they will gladly help, but unless you ask, they will let you get on with things.

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by SandyKaryOke » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:56 pm

Welcome to ERE, Frilosofen! Cheers! :)

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Re: Frilosofen reporting in from Sweden

Post by Levafri » Tue Nov 21, 2017 12:25 pm

Hej på er!
Also from Sweden, living in a Big City (by Swedish standards) (in the middle of Sweden / east coast ). I'm still here in Sweden, used to think it was a good place... but I don’t know if I will be here in 10 years, since I don’t like where we heading (and are). Bad government & politics.

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