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What are you learning to deal with ill health in older age? I'm still just middle-aged. However, when I was younger, I had the benefit of having regular long conversations with a middle-aged athlete while commuting to weekend warrior activities. I'm only going to be repeating what you already see i...

Ah yes, this is where we disagree. I think any novel solution is interesting regardless of repeatability... though I am thankful you keep discovering repeatable solutions! I agree that repeatable solutions are more interesting. I love taking other people's solutions and playing with them, so a non-...

That seems quite generous! Over here 100,000 euros gets a 50 year old male 312 a month, or 3.7%, and there are no options that correct for inflation. If inflation halves the value of money in 20 years, at his 70th birthday the 50 year old male will have the purchasing power of 156 a month. Been a w...

I think it's possible and maybe even inevitable to work on all three WLs in a set simultaneously, as on is never truly one WL across all things anyway. I don't think I've acquired enough skills to get beyond WL6, but in terms of thinking I may be accessing WL7 and WL8? I dunno, it's not hugely impo...

The trap of not following the FI plan is being "pre-conventional" and thinking you are "post-conventional." This is called the pre/trans-fallacy and it's worth some self-questioning. The fallacy comes about because "conventional" people or mindsets often can not see th...

Worth mentioning is that going from an otherwise sedentary weekend warrior (5000 steps/day + 15-25,000/day on weekends) to a daily 25-30,000 steps/day for 5 weeks straight may be a rude awakening to your "walking work capacity". Or maybe not. If you already do 15-20,000/day then you'll be ...

If you're worried about oversaving or undersaving (or one more year syndrome), you definitely want to play around with this: https://engaging-data.com/will-money-last-retire-early/ The US-centric (at least historically, less so these days) FIRE movement has ended up focusing on DIY approaches to ear...

Insofar the purpose of humanity is "higher ego development"---involuting the universe, if you will---is whether your purpose/what you're doing/the example you're setting (and thus the purpose of humanity or the universe writ large) inspires the next lower level. IOW, if you're self-actuali...

I originally installed something like these tires on my never-went-anywhere-(yet?) touring bike build. https://www.continental-tires.com/products/b2c/bicycle/tires/ruban-shieldwall/? The idea is that on asphalt, the only part of the tire touching the ground is the smooth middle, while on soft ground...

The scarcest resource is never money. It's always creativity. No, for most creative people, it really is money. This is why artists, scientists, or anyone whose contributions can't easily be commercialized tend to end up "serving fries with that" or spend much of their lifetime trying to ...

I'd suggest going to page 51 of the Cook Greuter link (pdf page #53), the page with the arch diagram. Note the pre-conventional ("Don't tell me what to do, I do what I want") and the conventional ("I do what I'm told to do") are described as the "self" being "socia...

It's worth having at least some understanding of ego development theory. I did not learn about EDT until AFTER constructing the WL table. In that regard, it's remarkable yet not surprising that the WL table lines up with the various EDTs that have been proposed. They also more or less line up with o...

—Random ERE thought of the day: To go from a high COL to a low COL, ~20k, you have to think about money a lot more than normies do. To go from a low cost of living to a very low cost of living, ~10k, you have to think about money a lot less than normies do. You have to think about other things. The...

V interesting. The part that's curious to me is that wl7-8 is where jacob sees the inner work begin. To me, the inner work is the work. It's only after the inner work is done that it unspools out into "reality." And without the inner work, no action taken in reality will be persistent or ...

How do you communicate about getting things or services as a couple? I think this is a very good question. How do couples resolve @#$@#$-issues? This were the WL table can be most helpful! Not as a normative solution telling you how you must do it. But as a tool that makes it easier to understand a...

How does this differ from the Values Clarification piece ... The point of WL6-8 is that it doesn't differ. YMOYL very much starts with values but the book itself never makes it into systems theory (even though VR herself understands systems theory). OTOH, WL6-8 actually does have a realistic unders...

I would also suggest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNZmJpQcmO4 (4 minutes)

Worthwhile as a summary for ERE and also touching on some WL8 aspects near the end.

Unfortunately early British colonists did not stay in their lane/latitude: Me neither. I say good riddance to soups and stews! I fucking hate soup or any stew I can't eat with a fork! :lol: One of the wonderful things about globalism is how cooking cultures intermixed and created new dishes(*). I'm...

The first thing to understand with this thread is that as far as the ERE forum is considered, WL8 is heading into thin air. Unlike previous WLs, we don't have enough forum threads to generalize and turn it into proper statitics. Here be dragons! In many ways, the current (2024) misunderstandings/wor...

Good initiative. I made the other threads "sticky", which means they appear at the top of the given index. Lets see what we can fill in together here.