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At first glance, there definitely seem to be many parallels between the EDT transition from 4 to 5 and ERE WL transition from 5 to 6. Indeed, yes. Conventional -> Post-conventional. Consumer->Post-consumer. There's a distinct break going on at this point no matter which lens one uses and what it's ...

It's common to encounter friction with more conventional family members when pursuing unconventional ways of living. I'd caution against thinking it's because the [conventional/conformists] won't accept other solutions or ways of living. It's more that they simply can't spontaneously perceive and pr...

I think a lot of the current tension stems from the fact I feel various aspects of my previous consumer lifestyle/identity falling away. It's like I'm losing a part of who I am, but I don't yet have a strong sense of who/what I will be like on the other side. For someone that has had a lot of certa...

Maybe Green towards Turquoise? I agree. I've never actually looked into them before but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism#Seven_Principles is very green (except the 7th principle which is trending), whereas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitarian_Universalism#Six_Sources is subst...

I guess I am inventing a commune that runs itself as a corporation (at least it would appeal more to those afraid of Communism)? Plus with the capability to provide a wide variety of goods and services in the same location. I don't know... is there anything to this? I think you've reinvented grad s...

So, my question is whether suggestions/threads made on this forum section are supposed to be post-progress*?And/ Or does Level Yellow pick "progress" up and call it something different? Topics need to at least be at the post-conventional meaning making stage. That means taking the interac...

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Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:40 pm

Also ties in with the left hand path oriented more towards aesthetics, whereas the right hand path avoids clouding the vision ahead/behind. I could just be digging a deeper hole in which to die in, though.

Maybe we should pick a hill somewhere ...
On the gripping hand ... curses turtles ...

I guess its turquoise for the win then Maybe, but how? Tell me if I'm wrong, but I associate religion with the collective, so beige, blue, green, turquoise, etc.?! Having grown up in an utterly Green welfare-state country, I can definitely verify that "Welfare" is considered sacrament or ...

@7w5 One thing I am trying to work out is what the Beige -> Purple transition looks like. The eventual turning of mental fallacies and biases into ritual. E.g. the construction of Jungian archetypes due innate pattern matching https://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=12095 ...

There will be a battle of the vmemes due to existential constraints. These are currently manifesting as doofus culture wars^H^H^Hskirmishes but stakes will eventually go beyond this. Orange is the Machine, but unfortunately much of the Machine has been designed under the assumption of unlimited grow...

Emergent and design seem contradictory. If it is emergent is it designed or organic? In other words, does the leader design it or does the leader simply model it and allow it to go where it will..... Think of it as LEGO. The bricks are designed. The models emerge. In order for models to emerge succ...

I'm not sure how these comments help design an emergent movement. Does a movement need the members to come together in one place? Or to communicate in some way? Perhaps just encouraging people to spend their time in an activity that has positive effects on their own health and that is not harmful t...

Biggest yet is ~43 miles in a day with my brother and my SiL several months back. The goal was 100,000 steps on her pedometer, which our various devices estimated at an average of 43 miles. Trying to talk my wife into working up to a 50 mile day with me, but she isn't enthused :lol:. In case you wa...

Maybe I don't understand your terminology (having/doing/seeing/being) well enough, but I don't feel super inclined towards any one of those, but rather a fairly balanced spread. Maybe a bit lower on having and a bit more on doing. Well, if you were running marathons, I'm guessing that "seeing&...

Gotcha now. It’s also kind of like lead metrics vs lag metrics. Because I am eNTP explorer (doing-> seeing and seeing-> doing) the Have does not compute with me much except as weak lead metric which I will likely abandon as soon as I see glimmer of Access. Typology would be another way. SD yet anot...

Here's an alternative split from the world of game design https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartle_taxonomy_of_player_types The original paper is worth reading to see how the game design can be tweaked to encourage/discourage certain player types if the game is unbalanced. It's also worthwhile to contem...

An overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volksmarching Quick summary: Volksmarching began in Germany during the 1960s as weekly 20k walks in the countryside for the entire family. People walk a predetermined route following either a map or flags/arrows. After completing an event people would stamp...

Might just be semantics, but I can’t see how savings and investments are not in the realm of Have. I do think it is a case of semantics + a case of how investments are framed. The FIRE mechanism goes via the market but the point of the FIRE exercise is not to have 10000 shares in XYZ. Nor is it to ...

@Ego - +1 as an expat from another country. The shitshow is real.

ERE towards direction of FIRE is actually pretty huge on Having (owning) productive assets. Combined with Doing, the overall motivation is very "fill in more appropriate word for 'masculine energy'" The having/doing ratio is heavily shifted though. Instead of the 100/0 of the typical cons...