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by Riggerjack
Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:35 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

@7 As I just demonstrated, when I am concerned that someone isn't gaining perspective, it's usually me that isn't learning. :roll: People act on self-interest. End of story. If you want to move the needle, then you align their self-interest with your goal. This is conventional wisdom. I would note t...
by Riggerjack
Thu Jan 26, 2023 7:05 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

@western red cedar I'm sorry. My last post was completely out of line. You were doing exactly as I asked, talking about the disposal of poo, while I was trying to force the conversation toward a particular blindspot, and shouting "look!". One day, I will learn to play well with others. In ...
by Riggerjack
Wed Jan 25, 2023 6:08 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

I was helping a friend use his collection of weapons to destroy a bunch of cardboard boxes.
Sometimes boxes must die, so others can live.
by Riggerjack
Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:22 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

Not much to add as I am firmly in the "humans will be humans" camp but I am finding your writings interesting, for what it's worth. If for no other reason that you showcase the obvious that most people ignore while they focus on the grandiose, while simultaneously ignoring basic human beh...
by Riggerjack
Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:02 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

IOW, you realize that you must also and always be in a house of mirrors yourself, but you keep on keepin' on anyhow. I think it's cute that you name your preferred mirrors. How does one then reference the outside of your hall of mirrors? ... If one were speaking to monks during the Reformation, arg...
by Riggerjack
Wed Jan 25, 2023 8:42 am
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

Well, I have considered many risks. But I find myself confused by the risk you raise.

...

Did you I ook up your own numbers? How do they compare?

Now how does your postmodern lens change this? What risk does it reveal?
by Riggerjack
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:50 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

@7, Daniel S hasn't circled at all yet. But watching the Hagen series, it's clear that Hagen is playing "infinity mirror" games in the hall of mirrors; and Daniel is talking about watching the floor and ceiling edges of the mirrors. Wander a hall of mirrors, while watching the floor long e...
by Riggerjack
Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:56 am
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

So, Riggerjack's tribe No. There is no tribe. Yet. But following those paths leads to the areas I'm trying to describe. Watch the Daniel S. podcasts. All of them. I don't disagree with any of what he has to say. He just hasn't circled back yet, but he's making very good progress. Not just Hagen's s...
by Riggerjack
Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:12 am
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

How would you define "culture" Much the way Daniel Quinn does. I identify my culture as people who believe this: Water quality and nutrient loads in the Puget Sound is a pretty good example of a wicked problem. There are different variables contributing to and influencing water quality st...
by Riggerjack
Mon Jan 23, 2023 2:49 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

RJTP III: So how hard is this waste problem, really? First, it's important to understand the concept of “resting”. It is common for a drainfield to greatly reduce it's effluent dispersal rate, eventually. With enough use, every space gets filled with biomat, and plants find traces of effluent, then ...
by Riggerjack
Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:39 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

RIGGERJACK TALKS POO. Part II. So far we've talked about modern, small systems. Let's look at some bigger/older systems. Staying here in the Puget Sound, let's look at Bellingham. In my youth, Bellingham was a run down second rate port town, with the fisheries dying off. But today it is a vibrant pr...
by Riggerjack
Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:51 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

The problem for ERE2 is that nobody is hiring these generalists or giving them any kind of influence. That is an odd way to express the problem on an early retirement site. Why would we want such people to have jobs? How would/could anyone give anyone influence over a wicked problem? If we have inf...
by Riggerjack
Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:48 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

RIGGERJACK TALKS POO. Part I. I like to go camping at a friend's family beach property on the Hood Canal. They have a cool old logging cabin they barged over, back when the Navy was buying up the land for the Bangor sub base. I spent a lot of time there as a teen. It's good to go back and reconnect ...
by Riggerjack
Sun Nov 20, 2022 7:18 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

Sorry it's taken so long. I meant this thread to develop slowly, but this is slower than I would prefer. I started this when life was less demanding. I'll try to pick up the pace. @ Daylen :lol: As with most of your writing, I greatly appreciate the half I think I understand, then there's always tha...
by Riggerjack
Mon Nov 07, 2022 3:13 pm
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

Re: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

:lol: thanks guys, not really where I meant to go. This is the ERE2 forum, I'm hoping to go a bit more meta. I had long post, but the wind blew, and there's no power. This storm was bad, I may be out of power for a week or so. And one of my trees crossed the road to meet my neighbor, only slowed by ...
by Riggerjack
Fri Nov 04, 2022 10:25 am
Forum: Emergent Renaissance Ecology
Topic: 4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective
Replies: 48
Views: 3939

4th, 5th, 6th Person Perspective

Jacob recently posted his thoughts on investments. Showing some of his models and how he uses them. I'm interested in his models and thinking in general, not in his investing. His models won't work for me. But I'm curious if my models will work for him. I tried this conversation from within my journ...
by Riggerjack
Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:59 am
Forum: Inspiration
Topic: Objectivity is an Asset
Replies: 102
Views: 10759

Re: Objectivity is an Asset

I should be clearer about yesterday's post. I didn't mean what I said to be taken of a criticism of JBP or sociologists. Rather I was trying to show how different framings get different results. JBP is a therapist of some form. As such he is focused on individual performance. His framework is approp...
by Riggerjack
Thu Nov 03, 2022 2:31 pm
Forum: Money Questions
Topic: Guest post: How I invest
Replies: 30
Views: 3409

Re: Guest post: How I invest

I seem to be questioning in the wrong thread. I'm not asking in context of investing. Investing is merely the context you were using to lay out your thinking patterns and processes. So I can see how 4th person perspective is useful in a Keynsian beauty contest, and have no questions about that. (But...
by Riggerjack
Thu Nov 03, 2022 1:42 pm
Forum: Inspiration
Topic: Objectivity is an Asset
Replies: 102
Views: 10759

Re: Objectivity is an Asset

So how do we build better hierarchical structures where they are needed, and eliminate the ones that are only causing harm (or how do we lessen the harm when we can't structurally remove the hierarchies)? Well, no. That isn't where I go. I consider that while I despise hierarchies, and focus on the...
by Riggerjack
Thu Nov 03, 2022 12:41 pm
Forum: Money Questions
Topic: Guest post: How I invest
Replies: 30
Views: 3409

Re: Guest post: How I invest

If by foundations you mean the way that knowledge is divided into specializations, I agree. No. This is not what I mean. That is about division of one set of knowledge. My question is about how you think expertise in one cultural set of knowledge gains one an advantage in learning from another know...