LiquidSapphire's Journal

[classical_Liberal]

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[chenda]

Thanks also for the update. Sounds weird but I clearly remember you retiring, because I was stuck in a job I hated in 2012 and would read your journal for inspiration. Can't believe its been 6 years! Sounds like you've had a great time overall so I certainly don't think you've failed, and you're returning to work on your own terms.

Wrt to spirituality, I don't know if this is of interest but I've been listening to a lot of Vedanta talks recently, especially by Swami Sarvapriyananda. He is an incredibly good speaker. https://vedanta.org/video-talks/

[LiberateMind]

Choice is the best freedom on this planet.

Well put and welcome back. Your journal is truly inspirational. Would love to hear more on how the new decision turns out.

[LiquidSapphire]

Hi C40!!
So cool to hear from you. Peeked in on you briefly and saw you retired, that's amazing, congrats. It is so cool to look at people that were posting and pursuing while I was and see we have all met what we were striving for.

It is such a relief to hear that someone else is struggling with choice of city. I haven't gone back to read my entire journal but I do believe one of my initial decisions was that I'd be willing to not live in Denver if/when housing became unaffordable. To be fair, back then I would have considered selling my left arm if it meant the difference of being able to quit work or not. Anyway, I have looked both in the bay area and in Denver now recently for cheap housing and I simply did not come across options in the price ranges that would fit a Jacob level budget. (I remember trying to find an RV Lot in the Bay area for a reasonable amount and really struggled, and I looked here in Denver recently and there was nothing, as an example.) Which leaves two options: pay up or move. I think initially I was willing to be more flexible and move but I have changed and that is no longer the case. Mainly, I finally live close enough to downtown that I actually am able to fully enjoy the city. It has opened up my world so much. I have met so many cool people and done a lot of cool things that I chose not to do before because I was always in a far flung suburb and far away from the action. I underestimated how much fun it is to be near 'the action'. It made a very big difference in my happiness. I have roots now here that I didn't before, and now it would take so much to get me to leave. So much that I'd rather go back to work than leave.

To that end, if you wanted my opinion, I'd suggest settling in a "big city" for a year and see what you thought of it. You can absorb any extra costs for a year and see if it makes the difference in happiness for you that it did for me. If so, then you can go back to work with confidence that it's worth it. I also think/hope that more work will not have a large reduction in my happiness. I took 6 years off and I'm better for it, so spending 2-5 back in a 9-5 didn't seem so bad now all of a sudden. I have a plan to stay in this job for 18-24 months, in which case, I can transition to something else for another 36, which should be all I need to meet every financial goal I have. I am hoping that making this bargain with myself should make swallowing this 'work' pill much easier. I do have days where I really relish sleeping in and having a whole day to myself that I can direct what I want to do where I want to do it and when. But I also found myself not really making the most of my time, and not appreciating my time off a lot, and burning through time with nothing to show for it. I figured if I didn't have the drive/discipline to be judicious with my time, I may as well sell some of it until I could find another way to use it. That was another huge factor for me.

One major factor in getting this job was one of my former coworkers went to bat for me. I think that's one reason it was so easy - though I did get some other interest from applying to organizations on my own without an accompanying reference. Is there anyway you could find some former coworkers on facebook or linkedin? I have to admit Facebook has been instrumental for me in keeping 'in touch' with people from my former life. I have been surprised at how much people are willing and able to help me even though I haven't spoken to them in five years. I bet you might have similar results.

To be honest, going back to work was one of those decisions my brain made without me being really conscious of it. It took a lot of soul searching to realize that in fact it was, for me, the superior option emotionally. If that took my brain making up logical reasons after the fact for why it makes sense, okay fine, but I do feel at peace with it. I also feel good in that I checked with many people close to me, and literally everyone told me it was a good idea. Sure none of them are retired, but also they all know me and wouldn't knowingly steer me wrong. Which helped me feel good about it also.

Thanks to everyone else for also stopping by. I'll check out those links chenda! I hope to be less of a stranger now that I am refocusing financially again. I found this forum an incredible support to me and also a tremendous way to focus while I was pursuing initial retirement. I hope to use this space again to continue staying on track and I am sure I will start participating in other threads as well.

[FBeyer]

hi wolf hi chenda nice to hear from you

I always add goals so I will add new goals:
Financial
1) Pay off student loans and other minor debts (Should happen quickly)
2) Buy property, probably a condo, idk
3) Invest and Transition into more enjoyable work that promotes "Flow" and "Meaning" (this is sort of non-financial too)
4) Track my spending and choose a more sustainable lifestyle
5) Save enough to get to a 3% WR for that lifestyle

Non-Financial
1) Drop 20 lbs (haha)
2) Develop a daily Spirituality practice (haha)
Haha because I have written this several times and have not yet achieved these so. Something to review in the future as to why that is.

I have smaller goals but these are really the big ones.

This is probably my favorite thing to do at the moment: helping people who are having a hard time focusing and starting on what they've chosen to focus on.

How do you intend to achieve 5 financial goals and 2 non-financial goals at the same time? I don't want excuses now, I want to see the actual plan/timetable you've laid out to make certain that Mon-Sun you put in the necessary work to make all that happen. Once we can see that plan, we can all help you get it done. And I'm not even kidding. Quote me when you put up the actionable things you *will* do (so I get a notification) or send me a PM with your personal plan on how to make that happen and I'll pick it apart until it actually happens.

'know what I think? I think someone who can waltz right back into a job after leaving the business 6 years past, is not only an amazing colleague, but also a good networker, and those kinds of people? Those kinds of people tend to get mo'fuggin shit done, without thinking too much of it, and that leads back to an inflated sense of how much can be done at the same time, by one person alone. If left unchecked, goals will pile up, and planning spirals out of control.

SHOW ME, your plan to make all 7 things happen simultaneously and I'll tell you why you're not achieveing what you want to achieve.

Much love
FBeyer

[LiquidSapphire]

This is probably my favorite thing to do at the moment: helping people who are having a hard time focusing and starting on what they've chosen to focus on.

How do you intend to achieve 5 financial goals and 2 non-financial goals at the same time? I don't want excuses now, I want to see the actual plan/timetable you've laid out to make certain that Mon-Sun you put in the necessary work to make all that happen. Once we can see that plan, we can all help you get it done. And I'm not even kidding. Quote me when you put up the actionable things you *will* do (so I get a notification) or send me a PM with your personal plan on how to make that happen and I'll pick it apart until it actually happens.

'know what I think? I think someone who can waltz right back into a job after leaving the business 6 years past, is not only an amazing colleague, but also a good networker, and those kinds of people? Those kinds of people tend to get mo'fuggin shit done, without thinking too much of it, and that leads back to an inflated sense of how much can be done at the same time, by one person alone. If left unchecked, goals will pile up, and planning spirals out of control.

SHOW ME, your plan to make all 7 things happen simultaneously and I'll tell you why you're not achieveing what you want to achieve.

Much love
FBeyer

This is awesome and so appreciated. Thank you.
Goal 1: fill out student loan reimbursement paperwork tomorrow. When the money comes, throw it at the loans. (Let's call it 11/30/18)
In the meantime take a TBD % of every paycheck and pay off debt in this order:
$5,000 - pay off 0% credit card (~11/30/18)
$15000 - pay back a 0% personal loan to my dad (~5/31/18)

Goal 2: already signed up my dad to start getting emails from Zillow. He likes to look at places for me. This week I will contact a realtor that I have a reference for and ask her some questions. See what she has to say. Then decide better plan.

Goal 3: I am on the final chapter of "flow" by csikszentmihalyi. But I don't know where to go from here. I think I want to focus on where I find flow and meaning in the new job for now. If I can create it here it'll be easier to create it again again and better. This week I'm focusing on new relationships. There are many to forge.

Goal 4: signed up for mint, dont spend cash, put all spending on credit cards, see where we are at Nov 1. Slowly redo a modified 21 day makeover that Jacob recommends and also maybe reread my journal and repeat my same steps again from 6 yrs ago over the next few months.

Goal 5: Calculate new spending goal from goal 4, do math to find how much I need, save save save, pay off the mortgage, and invest. Go find out what Jacob thinks is a good strategy these days. I know he posted once but I forgot what he said. I know dogs of the dow fell out of favor.

Goal 6: this is hard. I am keeping a food journal most days but I need to get back on it. I need to ensure a consistent weekly deficit. No excuses.

Goal 7: I need to choose a practice, even just 5 min of visualizing daily, and choose a time to practice it. But I work at 630am and I don't want to get up even earlier to do it. And I haven't located a consistent daily cue to trigger the behavior. I spend the night with my bf sometimes and it'd be weird and strange and self conscious to sit and meditate at his place after work, or before bed time. Or at work, that seems strange. Maybe look for examples of how other busy people do this.

[FBeyer]

...it'd be weird and strange and self conscious to sit and meditate at his place after work, or before bed time.

If you can use his toilet, you can sit on his sofa and mediate. It's a non-issue. Get over it

I'll come back and take a look at everything later, but for now: I suggest you link up your spiritual practice with your eating. When eating becomes a time for introspection or reflection, you'll inevitably start to consider what you're eating too. Eating in itself can be a spiritual practice but since there are many facets of that, I can't comment on exactly how you'd go about that. That way meal break becomes your mind break too. Use one as a cue for the other. So no phone, no computer, no bullshit while you're eating. Focus on your food. Also, no one can tell you're focusing on your food.

Choose 1:
Before you eat, Sit for 5 minute. OR After you've eaten, sit for 5 minutes.

If you can't, in any possible way, find 5 minutes to recuperate your mind before/after eating, you've got bigger things to worry about

I'm not sure what the point of a food journal is? Looking at what you've already eaten seems to be as pointless as worrying about the past. I have no idea what a journal will do for you, besides give you a paper trail you can beat yourself over the head with.[1]

Learning to eating well starts when you plan your week's meals. We've implemented a silly trick in our house. We've written the week's meal plan on the back of our shopping list. Once we're done shopping we can hang the meal plan on the fridge. I always know what I'm going to eat; it's there on the plan. You won't have to think or expend willpower to make eating well happen. You've planned your proper meals, you've written the shopping list, you've gone shopping once and you only bought what was on the shopping list, and you've got the list on your fridge. No snacks, no shit, no superfluous buying at the supermarket, just your plan that you know full-well does you good. It'll take a couple of weeks to get used to, but it'll not only help you eat well, it'll also free up more mental space.

If you're feeling experimental I'd suggest trying out intermittent fasting. IF teaches you quickly that hunger in the western world is completely safe to ignore, and it goes away after 10 minutes too! It'll stabilize your blood sugar and teach you all sorts of odd things about how we eat in the western world. You'll probably find that your calorie intake will stabilize to a slightly lower level than it was before. IF takes care of sugar cravings and ridiculous afternoon snacking. Yes, really… Unless the snacking is entirely habitual in which case you need to address the habit, not the fluctuating blood sugar issue.

Summary: Eating and spiritual practice really should go together. Planning helps more than revision.


[1] Keeping tabs on fuckups is not a good motivator in general

[LiquidSapphire]

1) Paperwork in process. Government giving YOU money never happens quickly. Paid off my 0% credit card and funded my Roth and HSA for 2018. Hoarding cash so in January I will fund the Roth and HSA for 2019 and then I'll pay the IRS and my dad.
2) I realized a couple things. First, that I have not actually lived in the type of property that I want to buy. I've never lived in or owned a condo. So I think instead I am going to scope out the complex I want to live in (or one like it) and live there for a year and see how it goes before I throw down a few hundred thou to own it. Also I haven't lived alone in a while. and I think I'd enjoy that, especially now that I can afford it. Because presumably I'll be living with a partner in a year or two. So I'll move next year and continue renting, but with more purpose. Just have to find a good location.
3) I am working toward this - gonna start up with music lessons again (flow activity) and I am still working toward building relationships.
4) Somehow I tried to figure out what I spent in each category in Oct but Mint didn't want me to look backwards when I was adjusting budget categories in November, annoyingly, so I will wait a month and then peek in November.
5) it's on my back burner to invest in dividend stocks but I haven't really thought out a more specific strategy. TBD, won't have significant money to do it with for a while
6) Doing pretty well with this. I'm journaling, cut out sugar and flour, walking 10000 steps per day (its the only workout I can fit in with my current schedule which is such an intense adjustment. I feel like I have NO TIME anymore). I've tried intermittent fasting twice. The longer fasts, 16/8 for example, are tougher on women hormonally. I did it for a straight month twice and quit both times, the hunger during the fasting periods never went away for me. I got headaches and my blood sugar was all over the place. sucked a lot.
7) Have done shit all. But 5 minutes before/after meals at work is tough, I'm usually using that time to get in steps. BUT one benefit is I can sit and stare at my computer for 5 minutes, or have my eyes closed, and no one can tell what I"m doing, ha ha! so you know I will ponder that some more.

[2Birds1Stone]

I am so very intrigued by your next chapter. Initially clicked on your thread this morning, reading the top post on this page (Oct 12) and going back this evening to read the entire thing from the beginning. Like @classic_Liberal, I'm on the front end of your 6 year journey off, and terrified that I will pull the plug too early (have to live on $16-18k/yr and continue to stress whether or not I have "enough").

Anyway, I wanted to pop in and say that your journey has been inspirational, and I really enjoy your writing.

[LiquidSapphire]

1) Paperwork processed! My work processed a $10000 student loan payment. I had to ask some people to expedite it because I have to pay taxes on it; better to do that this year than next. And they did! Yay! I know some of you think one should pay off all debts no matter what ASAP, but here is an example where it paid not to pay. So far, anyway. They'll pay the remaining balance in about a year. That's their rule so. shrugs. doesn't matter to me.
2) I still want to move and rent a condo and live there on my own and maybe buy one. no update, but I definitely think I need to move soon my roommate is starting to get on my nerves on occasion. I think I just wanna live alone for a while.
3) I am starting music lessons! I have one next week just to see if I like that school. I am focusing pretty hard on relationships too, friendships mainly. I have much less time, so I am focusing on which friendships do I actively want to put effort into maintaining, and which ones, if they fade away, I'll be okay with that. It seems very emotionless and calculated but. I have limited time and energy and I want to make sure the people I'm spending it on are worth it.
4) Mint says I spent $2685. I had some big annual/semi-annual expenses come up. I buy my mobile phone plan once per year ($150) and I buy protein powder in bulk ($150). I went to the Dentist for an annual cleaning ($150). I paid some coin insurance ($50). I paid $150 of my dad's bills that he pays me back for. So all of that was roughly $650; and I'm gearing up for Christmas presents shopping. I gave zero fucks about spending/saving money. So maybe I might start targeting roughly $2000/mo on the average; I'll only need to make a few small cuts. We'll see how next month goes. It's nice to see a number that is maybe "high" compared to others here, but compared to mainstream, still low. In theory I am at a 5% WR roughly right now if I can maintain a $2000/mo average.
5) I need to put together some type of stock strategy portfolio, but, well, stocks are going down and I'm saving money to pay other things first so... still pending.
6) Kicking ass and taking names. I'm losing about 2 lbs per week. I'm battling a lot of hunger but it is working at a pretty good clip. Also, a bunch of well meaning crabs in a bucket have come out to tell me how I don't really need to lose any more weight and am I sure that cutting out sugar and flour is healthy? Which is really fucking annoying.
7) I still really suck at this...I am not regularly meditating at all. I need to build a daily routine that works this in... I will do that this month. I have spent November creating reminders and routines for things that have to happen weekly, monthly, annually, and that is working pretty well. I rely heavily upon FollowUpThen - I don't know if I am grandfathered in or what but I can set what feels like unlimited recurring reminders and I run my life out of my email inbox. So I send an email to FollowUpThen to remind me to do something every week, or every month, or every 3 months, or whatever, and when that email pops up, I take action on it. You can also set up your own GettingThingsDone system in your email inbox, which honestly, is something I have considered as well and might transition to instead. I have that at work and that works phenomenally.

Work is still going okay; I am busy but my stress levels are normalizing and I am getting used to things. I think one thing I didn't really fully appreciate is how exhausting it is to start a new job where you're learning so much. Learning who is who and new procedures for doing things, and new rules, and blah blah. It's a lot to mentally assimilate. I am about 7 weeks into it though and I am still on a learning curve but it's becoming less steep. I think probably in a couple months I should be good to go and I'll have even more mental energy to devote to other things.

[prognastat]

1) Definitely a nice little Christmas bonus.

6) Once you start exceeding the average this becomes quite common. People will give you compliments, but caution you about not going to far/being too extreme etc. Also who is asking you if cutting out sugar is healthy? Most people by now seem to understand that sugar is not good. Good job on the progress though.

[FBeyer]

If you can't squeeze in 5 mins before/after eating, you should go to bed 5 minutes earlier. I'll iterate: If you can't find 5 minutes in your everyday life, it's not your lack of 'spirituality' that is killing you.

The point of meditation/reflection is not to reach a certain goal. You're not going to become tranquil from meditation/gratitude. That's not how it works. The point of meditation is to see your life true, as true as you can. Could it be that when you sit down to reflect on your state of mind, that you're not feeling very well and you're subconsciously 'too busy' to make it happen, because it's really fuggin' unpleasant? There's a myriad of reasons why it's not working for you, but we're talking 5 minutes here. Hand on your heart: do you not have 5 minutes at any time during your day where you can sit still?

2lbs per week is a lot. So good job... I think. Vitamin deficiency was a problem for me until recently because I didn't monitor my nutrients properly. If you're losing that much weight, that fast, a supplement could be a good idea. To the best of my limited knowledge anyway.

[Quadalupe]

And if you'd like some more social help: I also want to start meditating again, so maybe we can motivate each other?

[LiquidSapphire]

Thank you some old lady I am acquaintances with asked me if cutting out sugar and flour was really healthy and when I told her that yes, it was plenty healthy and, no, you don't need flour and sugar to be healthy, she was like "Okay I was just asking." Some other old lady was like, "You want to lose more weight? from where?" which is asinine because there are plenty of places "from where" - but people don't know what normalcy looks like anymore. and when I told my boss I hated restaurants and I was trying to drop 10 lbs when she started talking about all the restaurants she wants to go to when we travel together and told me about how there was no grocery store within any sort of walkable distance and how they wouldn't cover a cab to even just get to the grocery store, she told me that "Now is not the time to diet" because you know she is the diet police or something. Fuck em I took an Uber anyway.

I don't like to sit and meditate because either I feel too busy and like there are a million other things I should be doing instead and I can't relax and when i finally don't feel like that I am too tired to sit there and focus on anything so I fall asleep within like 30 seconds when I try. I have 5 minutes to sit still but I don't have 5 minutes where I can sit still and not be thinking about the next thing I need to be doing. Or it's just a weird environment. I am sitting here in an airport waiting for a flight and yes I could meditate here but no I don't really like I can totally check out and relax either. I take a multivitamin when I remember.... not every day but, enough that I don't worry about it. I'm eating lots of fruits and veggies too.

Sure social help might be nice

[chenda]

I once tried to meditate on a bench on my lunch break and it began to rain, so I thought I'd just carry on and then a passing policeman stopped to ask me if I was ok and did I have a place to stay that evening. I mean I didn't think I looked THAT bad...

I'm going to start tomorrow doing a 5 minute chant every morning, because I think it's more tangible than just trying to think about not thinking, which is kinda how I see meditation which becomes frustrating.

[FBeyer]

You people… That's exactly the point of the initial 5 minute meditations: To become aware of how often, and how forcefully, your mind wanders. Meditation is not supposed to be pleasant. It's supposed to be educating! It's like sitting through calculus class and complaining that you had to concentrate because your mind wandered every time integration got hard.
It's SUPPOSED to be like that!

I'll harp on this like mad later.

[LiquidSapphire]

October Goals I wrote:

Financial
1) Pay off student loans and other minor debts (Should happen quickly)
2) Buy property, probably a condo, idk
3) Invest and Transition into more enjoyable work that promotes "Flow" and "Meaning" (this is sort of non-financial too)
4) Track my spending and choose a more sustainable lifestyle
5) Save enough to get to a 3% WR for that lifestyle

Non-Financial
1) Drop 20 lbs (haha)
2) Develop a daily Spirituality practice (haha)
Haha because I have written this several times and have not yet achieved these so. Something to review in the future as to why that is.

January Update/Rewrite on these
Financial 1 - Work gave me $10K, so I have like $2K left on the student loans and work is going to give me the other $2K or whatever it is in December. So these are functionally done. I've also paid off all other debt so I am calling this one done.

Financial 2 - So, I morphed this into, let's rent a condo and make sure we even like condos. And I spent time looking at condos this month and I'm realizing that to rent a condo like the one I'd like to buy is a minimum of $1700+utilities. and right now I am spending $615 including utilities basically. and it's a big swallow. and I'm having doubts and second thoughts. I can spend way less than $1200/mo to make my current situation tolerable and be equally happy. So. I don't know what to do with this yet.

Financial 3 - Oh I am really proud of myself! I started a self improvement book club. Last month we read A Man's Search for Meaning and this month we are reading The Go Giver. I am really glad that I am taking a step doing more activities that create flow and meaning for me even if they aren't paid, I actually don't care that they aren't paid I just want practice doing this sort of thing. BTW A man's search for meaning is an incredible book, it really changed me, and I recommend it to everyone here. I am going to work on infusing more meaning into my job and approaching the way I view life with the lens of "meaning" rather than success, or happiness.

Financial 4 - Mint says I spent about $2800. I spent about $250 on gifts, $110 on a passport renewal, and $300 for $400 of Botox credit. You know, I am okay with all that. I would rather feel like I can buy someone a gift because they will appreciate it and because I want to, than feel like I can't afford to do it. And I find myself frowning enough to get that line in between my eyebrows, and if I don't take care of it, I will have permanent angry face. Well fuck that. If it costs me $600/yr to not have permanent angry face, that is the way it is. Well, $500 now since I did the thing. I think I am still in observation mode on this. Seeing where my spending naturally falls right now without any restraint, since I've proven to myself I can get to $1150 when I am really motivated, I sort of know that's a lower boundary for me.

Financial 5 - doing it! I think one thing I didn't realize when I started work, is that really what I was doing was picking up a second job, because I never really got around to fully quitting my first job. So I am doing this job, but still working on the side way more than I anticipated. So that is really nice, it speeds things up.

NonFinancial 1 - doing it, I really cracked down mid-Nov thru Jan 3 on my eating, ate really cleanly. I didn't quite make it yet but I made a lot of progress. I am trying to transition away from being so harsh and strict and find a more sustainable way of eating so I am focusing a lot on tracking my food. will write more below about this.

NonFinancial 2 - doing it! yay! see below.

Okay so basically I found this journal online called the Best Self Journal and it is a $31 journal that is supposed to last you 13 weeks. Well I think that is a little nuts and it turns out they have a PDF of the journal online. So I have read it and tweaked it and made it work for me. and this journal is such a great habit for me! I feel much more focused and productive with it.

The way it works is: you come up with 3 goals. Then you come up with 3 progress goals per goal, and break those down into tasks. Then you journal daily, weekly, monthly, with those goals. Yeah, nothing earth shattering, and shit everyone here has heard before. But I am really appreciating the structure greatly and I've been doing it!

So I've decided my three main goals over the next 3 months are:
1) Meditate every day (I call it MRC - Meditate, (self)Reiki, Connect (with self))
2) Eat Mindfully
3) Journal every day

And this is the worksheet I created to fill out for myself every day to plan my day:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OwH ... sp=sharing

And it's working and I'm doing it! I feel so much more productive, I am making better use of my time, I am being more mindful of my time and my goals, and I am feeling more on track with things. It is helping me greatly.

One last note about time before I sign off. I was feeling severely time crunched this month. The newness of the job wore off and I was starting to get that 'grind' feeling and I was starting to severely regret my decision to go back to work. And then I had this weird 'fight/non-fight' with my boyfriend this week and all of a sudden I found myself with a lot of time in the evenings. And I actually found myself feeling rejuvenated and I actually am starting to feel like I can go back to work on Monday and accomplish some good stuff. and that was so eye opening! it wasn't necessarily all work's fault that work is a grind. I need to be really much better about how I spend my free time. If I spend my free time well, then work doesn't feel like a grind. And maybe this relationship isn't good for me. Truthfully it has been a large drain of time and energy, I thought it was worth it, but maybe it wasn't. And you know what else? When I was pursuing ERE hard in 2012, my relationship sucked then too! And I thought I was so unhappy because of my job. Well, I was, and that job sucked, but I guess the lesson is, I have to have a certain amount of mental resources to be happy at work, and if I am having an impossible time coping at work, it means something is off in my non-work life.

I am encountering typical normal challenges in that which is life but overall I feel like I'm doing well and making good progress.

[thrifty++]

Hey thanks for sharing your recent changes.
Sounds like a stressful period but awesome you got a 6 figure job just like that after 6 years out.

Interesting you have been early retired for 6 years. Your story is great as an example to people who dip in and out. Awesome that you have done it but gone back to a great job, might allay concerns people have thinking they will never have a job again if they drop out.

[LiquidSapphire]

Thanks! Just keep your contacts - and have marketable skills. and you will be ok

[latearlyFI]

Hi LS! I just read your whole Journal! It was like reading a thriller, what will happen next? I like reading the journals that cover years to see how the goals turn out. I found MMM then ERE and these Journals are the best. Thank you for sharing. Once I move I'm going to start my own Journal, I'm so inspired by all of the successes and the realness of your challenges. Better than Reality TV! I wish you luck in your next move. The Condo idea sounds good or a small house maybe? (You seem to like animals). Maybe something that has a separate Mother in law apartment? Whatever it is, I'll be stopping by to cheer you on